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Suffolk Indiana Poll: Hillary Up By 6

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:44:00 AM EST
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The Suffolk University Poll for Indiana taken over the weekend has Hillary 49, Obama 43. Six percent are still undecided.

Suffolk says:

"Although the margin appears to be single digits at this point, the outcome will hinge on high turnouts in Marion and Lake counties, which are crucial for Obama."

....A considerably high 38 percent indicated they would vote for McCain, while 6 percent said they would vote for independent Ralph Nader, and an additional 11 percent were undecided.

"This 38 percent is one of several statistical signs that Republicans are meddling in the Democratic fray, knowing full well they will vote Republican come November," said Paleologos.

The margin of error is 4%.

Obama told reporters this morning in Indiana that "Every poll shows it is a dead heat."

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    I swear (5.00 / 4) (#5)
    by Lil on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:01:28 AM EST
    I'm gonna get fired before this is all over.

    Prediction: IN results will be like PA (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Prabhata on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:03:12 AM EST


    you mean (5.00 / 4) (#9)
    by Stellaaa on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:04:57 AM EST
    9.469869685754393939%    ?

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    Exactly. Not a number different (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Prabhata on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:06:04 AM EST


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    pi. (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by Salo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:13:54 AM EST
    to the hundred millionths

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    The fact (5.00 / 4) (#14)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:08:32 AM EST
    that they can't round up when it's a Hillary win just makes me flipping nuts.

    Meanwhile, Axelrod called Guam a state.  :)

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    Could he BE more clueless? (none / 0) (#26)
    by madamab on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:15:23 AM EST
    I guess those white working-class voters who always vote Republican must all live the state of Guam, eh, Axelrove? Otherwise it woulda been Obama by a LANDSLIDE!!!!1111

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    Well, he is reminding people that he too is (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by FlaDemFem on Mon May 05, 2008 at 01:05:49 PM EST
    from the white working class, when he is isn't being black, that is..see this from the Time article..
    A potluck supper at a farmhouse in Kempton that had been built by one of Obama's great uncles (who had been a member of the Indiana legislature), on land that had once been bought by his great-great-great-great grandfather, had to be cancelled after the weather turned frigid and gale-force gusts defeated the campaign's efforts to set up tables. Instead, the Obama family had to settle for an uncomfortably chilly walk around the property.

    I just thought that was amusing. I wonder how Obama handles a hammer. Heh.

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    Hahahahahahahahahaha (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by stefystef on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:15:27 PM EST
    Can't let Hillary have a double digit win so you have to break it down to the smallest decimal point.

    Anything to keep the Obama myth going.

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    Oil futures just broke $120/bbl - Effect on voters (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by jawbone on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:07:35 AM EST
    possible?

    Will the threat of ever increasing gas, oil prices impact voters' choices?

    She may just win this silly (5.00 / 8) (#17)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:10:37 AM EST
    gas price debate.

    Dang those elitist economists?  :)

    Meanwhile, where were these brilliant guys when the mortgage companies were raping middle America?

    This stuff doesn't fly with normies.  Pooh-pah a tax relief if you like, but I can't figure out why it's one bit different than what Pelosi and Co. cooked up with the tax rebate.

    Like that's really going to stimulate the economy?

    Gimme a break.

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    Who do these Economists represent? (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Salo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:12:50 AM EST
    ...real estate speculators and construction companies looking to make a buck off roads to nowhere?

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    It's EXACTLY like (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by cawaltz on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:13:52 AM EST
    the economc stimulus. That's why I can't find myself gettig too excited about it one way or the other. Short term, it's a couple extra bucks. Long term, it's pretty meaningless.  

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    Totally with you, but... (5.00 / 4) (#33)
    by NWHiker on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:22:13 AM EST
    for many that short term couple of bucks is going to make a diff: this Fox News article talks about people selling bits and pieces on craigslist, where sales postings are up 70% in a year: $10 here, $15 there.

    As long as it's paid for via a windfall tax, I have no objections to it.

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    Unfortunately (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by cawaltz on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:36:38 AM EST
    I fear that those same people will still be selling bits and pieces even with the gas tax holiday. I predict the gas price will go down about a week or so before the oil industry raises prices and uses the windfall tax as their excuse for doing so. I would like to see us spend the money on infrastucture to create a working public transit system and programs that would decrease our reliance on the oil industry.

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    Of course they will... (5.00 / 2) (#57)
    by NWHiker on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:47:31 AM EST
    It's just if we're at the point where $30 makes a diff... iirc I read somewhere that half of the gas tax holiday benefits does stay with consumers.

    With the windfall tax, the money will continue to be available for infrastructure. So yeah, I totally agree with you.

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    Perception (5.00 / 4) (#62)
    by Kathy on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:49:31 AM EST
    is a driving force in the market.  Consumer confidence, stock prices, etc, are all driven by perception.  Is there less oil now than there was a year ago?  Are our oil producing countries less stable?  Does anyone know why oil prices are so high right now, especially when Iraq has made billions in oil profits this FQ?  

    Perception.

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    I agree (5.00 / 2) (#72)
    by cawaltz on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:08:42 PM EST
    One of the reasons I thought it was a mistake for Obama to criticize Clinton and Mccain without putting an idea out there of his own is perception. People want to perceive the government is doing something when they are hurting economically, no matter how little that something might be. No one wants to hear "Sorry, you're out of luck."

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    Yes, but..... (5.00 / 3) (#36)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:26:48 AM EST
    :)

    I know a lot of single moms who are seriously hanging onto their apartments by a thread.

    They are FREAKED OUT over the gas prices.  It has pushed some into seeking out free food sources.  Others who were already there......the waitresses, etc.......are really panicking.

    I don't know that this academic discussion that's going on makes a bit of difference to those voters.

    BTW, that includes low-income AA voters.

    They may be getting pushed a bit too much by his lack of identifying with poorer Americans.  Combine that with Wright?

    We'll see.  I'd love to see her now charge back into the AA group and ask for votes.

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    My son's girl friend (5.00 / 3) (#38)
    by katiebird on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:29:16 AM EST
    Just paid her rent and put $75 of gas in her car and has no more money until the next payday.

    I think she could use some a break this summer.

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    does she realize (5.00 / 2) (#53)
    by Salo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:43:10 AM EST
    that in the long run we are all dead, so that it's all pointless anyway?

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    LOL* (none / 0) (#58)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:47:37 AM EST
    Well, you've got my mood from 2 days ago.  Lordy, but I was down in the dumps!  :)

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    If McCain makes a serious bid (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by Salo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:34:30 AM EST
    for the poor worker with carefully calibrated populism he can make enormous inroads into our base.

    He's already got Obama reeling on the meta issue of Patriotism as seen in the Wapo today.

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    I'm convinced that is possible (5.00 / 6) (#51)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:42:30 AM EST
    but not likely, given his personality.

    But you're right.

    The potential is there.  What Kennedy and Pelosi did was trade the base working class for the progressive bloggers.

    Now, me?  I say that's a dumb bunnie move.

    Here's why.  I've learned one thing, for sure.  Progressive blogger world is much like the far right.  Rigid, demanding, and way too high-maintenance for any candidate to truly court.

    They are entirely too emotional.

    The base of the party?  Pretty relaxed folks.  The worst you have to do is stir them up to remind them to vote.

    This was a bad trade.

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    On consumption taxes (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by Salo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:45:35 AM EST
    he certainly can demagogue it to his heart's content.

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    I think populism (5.00 / 3) (#65)
    by cawaltz on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:53:14 AM EST
    during an economic downturn is a winner. Personally, we need to keep playing that soundbite where he says that American workers would not be able to pick lettuce even if it pays $50 an hour. We need to keep playing that soundbite where he says he doesn't know much about the economy. THAT is going to resonate.

    Furthermore, we need to make sure that we remind folks how much this war is costing us monthly and link it i with the fact that he doesn't mind staying for 100 years. McCain HAS weak spots. The thing is that Left Blogistan needs to quit going after Clinton and go after HIM. The need to stop taking their eyes off of the ball and stop being so invested in the "cult of personality" politics.

    Blogs are the only thing we ave to fight the media narrative which is going to work in McCains favor if we on't take the ball and run with it. I fear our window of opportunity maynot have been what it once was due to the fact that so many have chosen to concentrate on Clinton.

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    Clinton's populist appeal (5.00 / 5) (#68)
    by Kathy on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:00:18 PM EST
    is sorely needed right now.  I think the most important aspect of her message is that we are all in this together.  That has a basic, American appeal.  We do better as a team, and she wants her team to succeed.  She is playing this so well that it's like watching Bo Jackson tearing up Jerdon-Hare.

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    She's a savvy campaigner (5.00 / 4) (#75)
    by cawaltz on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:15:47 PM EST
    She's adapted her rhethoric and she has hit her stride. One thing I can say for her, is that she sure is a scrapper. Even with her uphill odds she is taking the fight to Obama.

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    No, it's different (4.50 / 2) (#39)
    by AF on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:29:36 AM EST
    At least every dollar of the stimulus goes to citizens.

    Citizens will save pennies on the dollar of the gas tax, because pre-tax prices will go up.

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    But (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by cawaltz on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:44:24 AM EST
    the money that goes to citizens will have to be paid back. Our government is running a deficit. That deficit is one of the reasons that the dollar does not have the bang it used to(which is why things cost more). By running the deficit up further with these "giveaways" we weaken the dollar further IMO.

    The "stimulus" is a ruse to keep the boat afloat until Bush leaves office. Our ecomonic problems are not going to be close to being solved if the government can't help create jobs that wil allow citizenry to support themselves or address he reason the dollar is not worth as much as it used to be.

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    The stimulus is questionable (4.00 / 2) (#63)
    by AF on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:51:20 AM EST
    The gas tax holiday is indefensible.

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    LOL* (none / 0) (#66)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:55:22 AM EST
    It's a no-harm, no-foul issue.

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    There's harm (none / 0) (#67)
    by AF on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:57:09 AM EST
    Though admittedly not a huge amount (though Al Gore might disagree).  By indefensible I mean there are no good arguments for it, not that it's evil.

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    The good argument for it (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by cawaltz on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:48:18 PM EST
    Is the government isn't supposed to sit by while many Americans go under. If the government can bail out Bear Starns(and have our government take the hit) then why shouldn't it bail out Americans feeling the heat from a low dollar. It's a weak argument but perception is a kicker.

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    nooo (none / 0) (#86)
    by jedimom on Mon May 05, 2008 at 02:59:56 PM EST
    i disagree if there is a profit tax an increase in prifts increases the tax
    and historically OPEC lowers prices and ups production effectively whenever US Gov look serious about alt energy

    this is only one part of Hillarys long term plan

    ps the FOOD increases from the TRUCKING increases will be hjelped by Hills gas tax waiver big time
    the truckers are passing it into food prices and it is hurint middle America badly

    sorry no glasses...

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    Sometimes the political move IS the right move (5.00 / 4) (#49)
    by dianem on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:38:15 AM EST
    A good politician knows when to pander. That is why the Republicans agreed to the tax-rebate stimulus package and why they are working on legislation to help homeowners who are losing their homes. Nobody thinks it will make much difference, but people need to see their government working to help them.

    It's funny, because the government helps us in thousands of ways every day, from ensuring that we have phones in rural areas to making roads and cars safer so that we are less likely to die in a crash.  But people don't see those effects. They only see these silly political stunts.

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    I think (5.00 / 3) (#56)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:46:49 AM EST
    people know exactly what's going on.  I am convinced they know Hillary is pandering....and don't care.  LOL*

    Pandering is good.  You should have seen how dang fast our freeways went back up in CA after the earthquake.  Why?

    Bill pandered to us, that's why.

    I like pandering.  It makes the other less palatable stuff go down a bit easier.

    And there will be plenty of that, regardless of who wins.

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    The 10 (5.00 / 2) (#61)
    by Salo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:48:50 AM EST
    I remember that.

    It also had to go up quick cause millions of cummuters need it open.

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    Good point (5.00 / 3) (#64)
    by Kathy on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:51:49 AM EST
    I meant to say on the other NC poll thread that we need to remember what Bill Clinton did for NC when the hurricane and flooding hit.  He pretty much built that state back up with his bare hands.  He got them immediate relief and took care of people. (Katrina would be the obvious contrast).

    Folks don't forget who helped them when they were down.

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    Man, that just really hurts my dignity!! (none / 0) (#41)
    by MarkL on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:31:47 AM EST


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    Every poll in "a dead heat," Obama? (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by madamab on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:09:04 AM EST
    I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.

    Still, it's going to be quite a nailbiter tomorrow.

    I will need to have at least one beer and one shot before the night is over. ;-)

    I don't drink, but I may start tomorrow night (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by Josey on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:17:12 AM EST
    LOL

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    OMG! This campaign is driving you to drink? (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by madamab on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:18:55 AM EST
    IACF!

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    It's code, you see.. (none / 0) (#83)
    by FlaDemFem on Mon May 05, 2008 at 01:15:13 PM EST
    for "The heat is on, and I am dead in the water!!"
    He's like those frogs that people put in a pot and turn on the heat. Apparently the frogs don't realize they are being boiled. Neither does Obama. Heh.

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    vote purges concerns (5.00 / 3) (#31)
    by thereyougo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:19:58 AM EST
    I'm worried that according to blackboxvoting.org there has been a purge of 1.1 million registrations in NW Indiana by the Indiana Sec. of State, an area where Hillary expects to do well.

    Hillary's going to be (5.00 / 2) (#35)
    by zfran on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:24:05 AM EST
    on Letterman tonight..story was literally buried on Huffington Post. She's been on there about 11 times (I think that's what it said). GO HILLARY!!!

    I am nervous about my House Party!! (5.00 / 4) (#40)
    by indymom on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:30:19 AM EST
    I am having a House Party tonight and Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones is coming to my HOUSE!

    I am so afraid there won't be a respectable number of people here!

    I have had a hard time finding folks who are undecided!!

    Then just invite your friends. (5.00 / 2) (#43)
    by Lil on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:33:44 AM EST
    It will be great!

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    Oh wow.......you're brave! (5.00 / 2) (#46)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:34:35 AM EST
    Yeah, pack it with fakers.  :)

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    I want to fly to IN tonight! (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by rooge04 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:35:59 AM EST


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    You are so awesome (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by eleanora on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:29:22 PM EST
    to be doing that! Just invite everyone you know, undecided or not, and tell them to bring a friend. You can always order pizza if the food runs out. I'll say a prayer for you tonight :D

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    cool (none / 0) (#50)
    by andgarden on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:40:53 AM EST
    STJ has been one of Hillary's best surrogates.

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    kewl (none / 0) (#87)
    by jedimom on Mon May 05, 2008 at 03:01:51 PM EST
    I love Stephanie Tubbs Jones

    chat about Emilys List and directing donations to specific candidates..that is a good icebreaker

    have fun!!

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    Hmmmmmm (4.00 / 1) (#4)
    by cawaltz on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:01:26 AM EST
    That seems pretty much in line with a Clinton by 12, if Clinton wins the undecideds like she usually does.

    Pretty positive signs for the Clinton campaign. Anyone seen a NC poll?

    Just Insider Advantage (5.00 / 3) (#8)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:04:22 AM EST
    which someone said isn't reliable.  (Are any of them this year?)

    She's within 3, a statistical tie.  

    And here's their summary.

    Really interesting dynamics at play here. Clinton has increased her lead among white voters to 58% - very close to the 60% plus level needed to pull off a victory. She now leads among those who say they are Democrats but has started to trail among Unaffiliated voters, who are allowed to participate in Tuesday's election. Additionally, African-American voters are not quite as solid with Obama as they have been, at least based on previous exit polls. Clinton has remained in the upper teens (17%) of African-American support in our recent surveys. African-American turnout will be the key to this race. Our poll is based on a turnout model of 35% African-American vote. Anything under that number could give Clinton a shocking upset. But Indiana has become a true horserace that should concern the Clinton camp."
    "

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    Thanks n/t (none / 0) (#16)
    by cawaltz on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:10:12 AM EST


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    ARG (none / 0) (#13)
    by Prabhata on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:07:59 AM EST
    http://americanresearchgroup.com/

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    Obama below 30% in NC white voters (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by Cream City on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:10:49 AM EST
    is not good for his electability argument.  But with  a bit more than needed still undecided, he still could reach that minimum to help make his case -- or at least to lessen Clinton's case.  

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    We saw with Guam (5.00 / 3) (#21)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:12:15 AM EST
    just how a few votes makes a psychological difference.

    I better make those calls today!  :)  I sure would hate for 7 votes to blow it!

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    Have they recounted those Guam votes yet? (none / 0) (#85)
    by derridog on Mon May 05, 2008 at 02:02:33 PM EST


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    Thanks n/t (none / 0) (#19)
    by cawaltz on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:11:02 AM EST


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    Keep them coming... (none / 0) (#1)
    by Stellaaa on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:57:50 AM EST
    if the news is bad with NC do not post.

    LOL* (none / 0) (#2)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:59:31 AM EST
    I've got my cheese and crackers ready already.  I'm going with SUSA.  :)

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    I'm With You....But I Don't Think It Will Be (none / 0) (#3)
    by PssttCmere08 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:59:37 AM EST


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    She closes (5.00 / 3) (#6)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:02:56 AM EST
    very well.  There was a fun article about how great Bill is doing in the small towns.  He's getting great turn-outs.  I loved this one.  About 500 people wandered away before he finished his 40-minute pitch, heading over to grab barbeque.  

    One voter said, "Oh, I don't need to hear the pitch.  I know it all by this point, and Hillary's already got all of our votes."

    Love it.  :)

    Love small towns!

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    Hooser-style bbq vs. Bill Clinton (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Cream City on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:06:39 AM EST
    is a tough decision, if you ever tried both.  Especially if the bbq is what Hoosiers call "pulled pork."  

    Bill Clinton is looking so good, really following doctor's orders -- or I'd bet that he'd opt for some Hoosier bbq, too.  Plus all those side dishes, mmmm.

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    Missourans have a type of BBQ (none / 0) (#25)
    by Salo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:15:00 AM EST
    that they swear by too. I suppose everyone does.

    Ever tried bangers and mash?

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    British "food"? (none / 0) (#27)
    by madamab on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:16:10 AM EST
    Erm, no thanks. ;-)

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    It's just Sausage and mash potato. (none / 0) (#37)
    by Salo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:28:27 AM EST
    You can use any sausage you like.

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    I come from Germanic stock (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:33:06 AM EST
    and any sausage is a good sausage.  :)

    I'm also a Southerner way back in my old days, so any barbeque is good barbeque.

    Fried okra is heaven.  Don't care what anyone says.  Fried apples was a staple when I grew up.  

    And mashed potatoes absolutely must be a part of my life to the day I die.

    Which will be earlier rather than later, given my background.  :)

    Sorry.....O/T here.  back to being serious.  :)

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    Dip your (5.00 / 1) (#71)
    by Molly Pitcher on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:03:59 PM EST
    okra in cornmeal before frying?

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    Oh, Most DEFINITELY... (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by AmyinSC on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:27:04 PM EST
    And fry it until it is really crunchy!  Yum...

    Back ON Topic -

    How is it that NO ONE calls Obama on the things he says like this dead heat stuff???  I just don't get it.  My head is still reeling that so many "progressives" seem not to have noticed when he praised Reagan, said the '90's Rep. Party was the party of ideas; AND that he wants to return to the Foreign Policies of G.H.W. Bush (that is - Donald Rumsfeld!).  How is this possible??  So they really not pay ANY attention to the words coming out of his mouth unless they are an attack on Clinton???

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    I like baked apples. (none / 0) (#59)
    by Salo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:47:48 AM EST
    with lots of currents and syrup.

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    British bangers, "black sausages" (none / 0) (#69)
    by Cream City on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:01:59 PM EST
    are not sausages.  No meat, just bread crumbs.  Awful stuff for someone from a Germanic city like mine, where we're best at wurst.  "All meat, no fillers" could be a winning campaign slogan here.

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    I Think the EU (5.00 / 0) (#76)
    by Salo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:17:46 PM EST
    attempted to reclassify the banger as a meat simulation.

    Sorta like Buhddist cooking in China.

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    Lexington, NC, (none / 0) (#70)
    by Molly Pitcher on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:03:04 PM EST
    pulled bar-b-que, with cole slaw on the bun: heaven on earth!

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    When I lived in Texas (none / 0) (#77)
    by cmugirl on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:20:44 PM EST
    This Yankee girl fell in love with sweet tea....

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    hee (none / 0) (#88)
    by jedimom on Mon May 05, 2008 at 03:03:52 PM EST
    that is what Big Dawg said in the article I saw, he said Im abut to head over here for some pulled pork, he smelled it as he was speaking..

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    Ah pick up truck theatrics. (none / 0) (#20)
    by Salo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:11:18 AM EST
    He's in his zone eh?

    Good for Bill.

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    Hillary on CNN (none / 0) (#29)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:17:45 AM EST
    she really has this campaigning thing down now.

    Shoot (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:34:02 AM EST
    I missed it.  But she looks terrific!

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    She looks absolutely radiant (5.00 / 2) (#52)
    by Kathy on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:42:41 AM EST
    When I met her in person, I was just shocked at how beautiful and vital she looks, and wondered why that didn't come across on camera so much.  Now, I see it coming across in spades.

    Obama,  not so much.  Maybe by "dead heat" he meant that he looks like the walking dead and she looks like she's got all the heat?

    Maybe I should revise my KUSA numbers to reflect this.  If Bush taught us anything, it's that looking and acting like you are a winner more often than not persuades lots of folks that it's true.

    Hm...somebody should give Obama The Secret.  Maybe wait until June, though.

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    Obama (none / 0) (#60)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:48:33 AM EST
    has always reminded of a tent preacher, only "on" when he's got a huge crowd.

    Otherwise, that's one dour fellow.

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    Yes! standing in the back of a turnip truck (1.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Josey on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:23:28 AM EST


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    Could you do a post on it? (none / 0) (#32)
    by katiebird on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:21:02 AM EST
    I had the chance to retire on April 30 but decided to wait and do it June 30 -- What a dumb decision.

    I could be home watching CNN if I'd only thought ahead!

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    Actually, I'd probably be (none / 0) (#80)
    by katiebird on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:44:47 PM EST
    In North Carolina.  If it was possible, I'd have gone there for the weekend.

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    44% won't vote Dem in GE (none / 0) (#84)
    by wasabi on Mon May 05, 2008 at 01:43:06 PM EST
    Wow.  44% won't vote Dem in the GE if their candidate does not win in the primary.  I guess that is 44% split between the HRC and BHO supporters, but it still sounds bad.

    "In addition, slightly more voters said that Obama (35 percent) would be the next President, compared to 28 percent for Clinton and 25 percent for McCain."

    It appears that the % that envisions Clinton getting the nod is climbing.  Interesting.

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