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Puerto Rico Goes to The Polls . . .

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:02:58 AM EST
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7 hours from now. Starting at 8 am and closing at 3 pm, the people of the Isla del Encanto go to the polls for the Presidential Primary. Clinton is favored. the questions seems to be margin and turnout. Clinton wants big for both.

I'll try and give an early indication of turnout in the morning. My predictions remain the same - Clinton 57-43. Turnout 500,000. Clinton wins the delegate race 31-24.

Any late night predictions for Puerto Rico?

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    prediction: 750,000 voters, 15pt spread (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by DandyTIger on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:13:15 AM EST
    Just to split the difference between your 500K and earlier hopes of 1M. I call it the Ricky Martin bump.

    And with that, the world recognizes Hillary as the popular vote winner and all the SD's come to their senses. I call that my fleeting hope of a Democrat in the white house.

    My prediction (5.00 / 4) (#21)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:19:23 AM EST
    People will say that Puerto Rico doesn't matter, no matter how many people vote.  And Obama will get 4 more delegates than he earned, for the sake of the voters who "would have voted for him if they could."

    That space shuttle we saw taking off today was literally delivering a fix to the toilet in the Japanese space station -- how ironic for this day....if only a spaceship could come fix the cesspool that the DNC has become.

    Sorry, I digress.

    I'd guess high turnout... (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by OrangeFur on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:53:49 AM EST
    ... because everywhere, including Guam, has had high turnout, but for one thing:

    Didn't Oregon actually have low turnout? Kentucky was high, but Oregon seemed only so-so. So who knows...

    Reading some articles, however, I noticed that Puerto Rico has a high poverty rate--something like 45%, according to the article. The four million residents are US citizens. That so many of them live in poverty feels like it should be a scandal.

    Well (none / 0) (#30)
    by Steve M on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:58:16 AM EST
    It's vote by mail in Oregon.  Since it requires so little effort, I don't think they ever have really high turnout or really low turnout.

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    650,000 Puerto Ricans live in Florida (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by Mark Woods on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:15:25 AM EST
    and they are turning the state Democrat. What happens in PR today is important for the DNC on many levels, not least because the majority poll for Clinton, and this Latino demographic represents attitudes of the emerging Hispanic majority in our largest states, i.e., FL, NY, CA, etc.

    Anyone who underestimates the impact of Ricky Martin's endorsement doesn't know PR.  My FL and NY PR friends are ecstatic over Clinton and refuse to accept the media insisting every few days that Obama has 'won'. They simply say 'No way!'

    BTW, anyone who hasn't been to San Juan deserves a visit -- I had one of the best vacations of my life there!

    Now I'm going to go make a donation to Clinton -- they need our support to get to Denver . . .

    Que Será Será (none / 0) (#1)
    by andgarden on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:04:40 AM EST
    (I frankly don't even know if that's Spanish or Italian. . .)

    OK, I had to check. It's nonsense. . . (none / 0) (#2)
    by andgarden on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:05:38 AM EST
    There has been some minor controversy about the reputed language in the song's title and lyrics.[4] The phrase was lyricist Jay Livingston's own variation[5][6][7] on "Che sera sera," a fictional motto which he had seen in the 1954 film The Barefoot Contessa.


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    Doris Day sang it. (none / 0) (#5)
    by Stellaaa on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:06:28 AM EST


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    I know (none / 0) (#12)
    by andgarden on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:09:21 AM EST
    know

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    No (none / 0) (#6)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:06:35 AM EST
    It is spanish.

    It means, what will be, will be.

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    That was my intention! (none / 0) (#9)
    by andgarden on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:08:10 AM EST
    It's been stuck in my head for years since I first saw The Man Who Knew too Much

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    There are cures for song viruses (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by Stellaaa on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:12:56 AM EST
    Baby Elephant walk, humm a few bars, and you will forget any other song.  

    Sukiyaki is the other

    not responsible for videos...

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    Stellaaa!!!!!!!!! (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by andgarden on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:16:50 AM EST
    (sorry, not falling for that trap).

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    c'mon...you know it will be fine (none / 0) (#22)
    by Stellaaa on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:26:07 AM EST


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    Stella-Sukiyaki-brings back great (none / 0) (#39)
    by zfran on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 08:13:37 AM EST
    memories of drivin' and cruisin' and singin'. Didn't know there was a video. Thank you!!!

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    The oriignal is better (none / 0) (#10)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:08:51 AM EST
    Both by hitchcock.

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    So I've been told (none / 0) (#13)
    by andgarden on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:10:50 AM EST
    I have a soft spot for North by Northwest.

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    Mount Rushmore (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:12:20 AM EST
    you sure you just graduated college?

    Next you'll tell me you have a Sinatra collection.

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    heh (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by andgarden on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:16:09 AM EST
    No, I just have a thing for large format color (and Hitchcock movies in general). The same guy who restored Vertigo also did Lawrence of Arabia. Two of my favorites.

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    Intro to Frank Sinatra (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Stellaaa on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:34:30 AM EST
    somewhat related to primary:  High Hopes

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    Notorious (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by BDB on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:15:24 AM EST
    My favorite Hitchcock film.  Grant & Bergman.  Nothing better than that.

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    Really? (none / 0) (#25)
    by Steve M on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:29:25 AM EST
    And not from the end of Heathers?

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    Never seen it (none / 0) (#26)
    by andgarden on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:33:03 AM EST


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    You Should See It (none / 0) (#33)
    by BDB on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:16:01 AM EST
    It's sick, but in a good way.  Although it may just be a generational thing.

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    My gosh (none / 0) (#35)
    by Steve M on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:40:29 AM EST
    Does no one pay attention to the classics any more?  It was the Chasing Amy of its day.

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    Espanol (none / 0) (#4)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:05:56 AM EST


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    It's portuguese (none / 0) (#40)
    by hopeyfix on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 09:01:47 AM EST
    :)

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    Puerto Rico (none / 0) (#3)
    by Stellaaa on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:05:43 AM EST
    (stupid west coast person question, time zone?  )

    Atlantic (none / 0) (#7)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:07:25 AM EST
    but no daylight Savings time thus on the same time as Eastern time.

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    Well, I must confess (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Stellaaa on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:09:12 AM EST
    As far as tourism, Puerto Rico wins the "have a primary to advertise for tourists" vote.

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    i predict (none / 0) (#17)
    by Turkana on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:15:33 AM EST
    butch lee will play out of his mind, but the u.s. will still win.

    I expect heavy turnout, simply (none / 0) (#18)
    by MarkL on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:15:59 AM EST
    because P. Ricans will to motivated to vote because of the attention.
    I'm going for 1.2 Mil with Hillary winning by 300,000.

    rum for everyone (none / 0) (#23)
    by DandyTIger on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:28:13 AM EST
    My new prediction. Hey, it's the commonwealth of PR after all. Mmm grog.

    Puerto Rico (none / 0) (#24)
    by Steve M on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:28:18 AM EST
    You lovely island...
    Island of tropical breezes...
    Always the pineapples growing,
    Always the coffee blossoms blowing!

    Immigrant Goes to America (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by BDB on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:18:11 AM EST
    Many hellos in America,
    Nobody knows in America,
    Puerto Rico's in America!

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    Those last two lines (none / 0) (#36)
    by Steve M on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:41:03 AM EST
    are particularly apropos right now.

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    1.4 Million (none / 0) (#28)
    by Makarov on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:44:34 AM EST
    and Clinton by 27%.  Why the heck not? It would be great if she finishes as the undisputed popular vote leader.

    It all depends on whether PR voters (none / 0) (#37)
    by oculus on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 02:32:02 AM EST
    watched the proceedings on TV Sat.  If so, they are mad as hell and will turn out in huge numbers for Clinton.  

    PREDICTION... (none / 0) (#38)
    by rkcdvd on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 04:42:26 AM EST
    I'm not quite sure how i want to realistically try to analyze the eventual voter participation in PR.  Being Hispanic myself, I wonder how motivated a population of commonwealth-Americans are going to be considering the fact that they will not be allowed to vote in the GE.  From my own experience with my family, I would say that, if anything, the youth will motivate and decide the vote in PR.  Perceptions as to these assumed results will be grossly mis-interpreted and mis-construed. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF US!

    CON BENDICION...

    I just voted in Puerto Rico (none / 0) (#41)
    by jpirizarry on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 11:16:44 AM EST
    I'm a young Puerto Rican who just came back from voting in Puerto Rico. I'm a Obama supporter and I'm afraid to tell you that from 40 people in the room I was the only one under 50. Hillary is winning big here. Probably by more than 30 percent, I'm afraid. But turnout looked very small for Puerto Rican standards. Puerto Rico won't give her the popular vote argument. Thanks God

    Obama 08

    When I voted this morning (none / 0) (#42)
    by TomLincoln on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 09:14:39 PM EST
    everyone was above 50 and there was very low turnout, in my opinion. But I spoke to a friend who lives in the Condado area and she said that at two schools she had been to, one where she voted and the other where her husband voted, turnout was good. As I'm writing this, I already know Hillary won 68-32, and that overall turnout was lower than expected.

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