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Of course our fearless leaders will never go through with it. And for that they should feel shame for the remainder of their lives. Parent
BTW the only place I can find any info on this is a democrats.com. I watched some of it live on C-Span but the MSM is completely ignoring it. Posers. Parent
I don't know about you but I liked hearing someone standing up and saying what we all know is true. I am sick of watching us punk out on this issue. Bush and Cheney are traitors to this country and they should be rode out of town and shunned forever. Parent
And that's all I have to say about the matter. Parent
So.... we should do nothing? Parent
Gennifer Flowers and Paula Jones are offering Internet viewers the lurid details of encounters they claim they had with former President Clinton -- for $1.99 a pop.
On Monday, both women walked down a manicured avenue to the Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock and chatted with an interviewer from the syndicated television program "Extra."
Disgusting, completely disgusting. I know that the Clinton Library is open to the public, but I hope Bill makes an exception for these two tarts. Like a restraining order keeping them off the property. He wouldn't allow call girls to ply their trade on the driveway of his library, so why allow these two to ply theirs? Parent
At the same time...I know a lot of people who won't vote Democratic but consider Kucinich to be the conscience of the party, or leftists and p'oed independents, at least, in congress. I still want to hear him say it, even if it goes nowhere. Someone needs to say it for the history books. What has happened in the last eight years is a terrifying disgrace. Pelosi and the other centrists are concerned with winning elections, and I respect that. But I want someone in my party to say the obvious and call these people out for what they are.
The writing really was on the wall during the Clinton years. There really was a difference between the two parties, notwithstanding Naderite false promises.
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I just wish this legislation were being introduced by someone with more media savvy than Kucinich.
But it sure as hell IS relevant. Parent
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I fear becoming naught but a crusty cynic if i fail to note the courage of his stance, albeit doomed, as others here already said.
We are, after all, mental patients in the media's asylum waiting room, being prepped for our imminent post-platform re-conditioning, so that we post-Dream Clintoniks don't resist but instead quietly and obediently get in line with the coming Party line of our One Great Leader are we not?
Our proscribed treatment will last 2 months and will successfully reverse our prior delusions, I'm told. Swell, huh? Parent
We can't be a check on the manipulation or exercise of political power because all we're interested in is whether it benefits us or, even more cynically, whether we're right about if and how it's going to work this time. Are we GOOD jr. pundits, that's the issue: have we correctly identified how political power is going to be manipulated this time and have we aligned ourselves with the winning side.
I'm tired of this parlor game. Because so long as we continue to participate in it, it's true that the validity of the articles of impeachment is irrelevant because we, as jr. political pundits, have ceded any power we may have as voters or activists or progressives or Democrats to make the articles relevant or even to argue about it their relevance. Parent
I think Kucinich has risked his career with this. It's the kind of action that I think takes role reversal for, as in "when the people lead, the leaders will follow." It's similar to gay rights. We can't expect our elected officials wreck their careers standing up for us. It's something the public needs to do. Hence my frequent call for straight people to take a stand on gay rights at the federal level so the marriage issue can't be so effectively used as a wedge issue. Parent
I'm continually reminding them that we should have won many more Senate seats than we did in 2006
And gee, I thought my comments about us little people being leaders were very astute. Sorry you didn't read that far... Parent
The day after he locked up that reelection, he filed to run for President again. And this year, in spite of that flagrantly broken promise, he sailed through the primary without a scratch. I daresay his career is hardly on the line. Parent
Kucinich is trying to take them on, call them to task, maybe even STOP Bush from continuing these dishonest activities. It's a very brave thing to do, and I don't see a lot of other reps stepping up to the plate.
And all you can do is insult the people that support and respect this man?
That's really lame. Maybe you can fill us in on some of the great things you've done to stop this criminal George W. Bush. Parent
Better than the Republicans? We might need an electron microscope to actually prove it. Parent
The Obama situation didn't make me consider leaving the party for good but this situation certainly has. Parent
I once again christen the Mainstream Media the Mouthpiece Media. Whether you think Kucinich's latest is a stunt or, as I do, what a responsible government representative does when the executive branch is totally out of control, it is newsworthy and should be reported. And discussed!
Raw Story has coverage. Parent
I've hit most of the other high points, because I've had lots of church attendance at those good liturgical churches where they cycle through the most improving readings thoughout A, B and C year Sunday mornings, and my kids went to an Episcopal day school and I hit a lot of morning prayer services too. But never cover-to-cover through the book. I quit at Joshua.
Also, Rebecca Traister has another great piece in Salon, in which she finally fesses up to having voted for Hillary. Traister wrote the piece about sexism in the media during NH (and was the first to take Chris Matthews to task), and has been one of the few writers to call the media on their sexism throughout this campaign.
From her current piece:
Clinton was such a hard-ass that she turned her butchest male critics into the hysterical harpies they accused her of being. What fun, during that final debate, to hear Obama grouse (justifiably) about the ludicrous questions he was facing, while next to him, the broad who had, in an earlier debate, been asked about the fact that nobody liked her cheerily removed the shiv from her thigh and used it as a toothpick. Sure, many people moved quickly from the thrill of having two historic candidates to the hair-pulling headache about how much damage their contest was doing to the party, but get over it! When was the last time we had so much fun in an election year?
It's a wonderful column in praise of a wonderful dame.
I think, of all the things Hillary did in this campaign, the one I most enjoyed watching was seeing Republicans who hated her slowly move over to her side. It was so bizarre! They loved her because she fought, and fought, and fought... Kicking and screaming, she just wasn't going to go down without a fight -- and they loved that.
I'm convinced Hillary needs to run again because she would be a true "crossover" candidate. There are many Republicans who would crossover to vote for her. She's simply that amazing. Parent
Not only that, it appears that Obama is basically running on Axelrod's platform: ie. the platform Axelrod laid out for a candidate.
You know.... Why don't we just elect Axelrod? We kill two birds with one stone that way... Or is Axelrod not a very good public speaker? Parent
I read the English versions of Israeli and Arabic papers. While we are diddling with the primary, Condi has been a very, very bush person. Something is brewing.
Sample of her projects:
Rice to hold talks with Israeli, Palestinian teams
So, this is my theory. They will patch up a last minute agreement. Condi will be McCains VP and trump Obama.
I have no idea if they will succeed, but I think she is even talking to Syria.
Clinton couldn't do it, so Bush sure as hell can't.
The last gasp of a lame duck presidency is not the time to try to solve the I/P dispute. Parent
Much has been going on in the bush administration.
Seems they have a goal to achieve the Obama issues before election. I chuckle to myself every time I see one of these issues taking a priority and wonder what Obama is going to have to talk about during the GE. Parent
I ask because I've recently run into a "stifle yourself, Edith" attitude from several men I know. Yes, they've always been chauvinists to some extent but suddenly they don't seem inclined to make any effort at all to hide it. In fact, they're really aggressive about it.
I know this sounds paranoid but it's what I'm experiencing. From condescending replies to blog comments I've made to, in one case, being told to my face to "shut up", they refuse to carry on a civil argument. Instead, they dismiss me out of hand.
Am I the only one? And could this possibly be a reflection of the political climate?
But this is why I am sick, myself, of all the media stories now saying that this campaign will mean such progress for women. Bull. I predicted this. . . . Parent
And then, you may just have a pattern that could be evidence of a hostile environment not just for you but for women (and often others -- minority men, small men, etc.) in general. And that's a no-no. That's when the specter of the EEOC arises. . . . Parent
I think the worst time in my life was when I had to quit a job in outside sales because the manager thought I should be sleeping with the customers to sell more.
Throughout most of my career though, I've ended up in management positions with a lot of men working for me, usually in male-dominated industries. That's an infinitely trickier swamp to wade through. Parent
The fourth time it happened I reached the point where I started wondering if it really is me and if I should, indeed, "shut up". But I can't find anything I've written or recall something I said that should trigger such nasty responses.
The worst part is that while he agrees with me that the way I'm being treated is wrong, my husband also says "let it go."
And yes, one of the venues where this is arising is a male-dominated sport. While I don't participate as a competitor I'm one of the primary judges on a national level. The misogyny has always been there to some extent but they've attempted to cover it up in the past...possibly out of fear that I would retaliate on their scoresheets. (That's about as likely as hell freezing over.) Now it's as though they feel no need to even attempt to be civil.
Whatever the reason it's a thoroughly depressing experience. But I think you've given me sound advice and I thank you. Parent
Once, I worked at a company with all men. My supervisor bought me a color monitor for my computer and set it up in the shop. He called me into the shop to see it. Every man I worked with was in the shop and the computer monitor had a porno program running on it. (Something called "Molly" -- she was a computer generated f*cking program.) The only reason my supervisor did this was to embarrass me and get my reaction. The trick for me was to not satisfy him with a reaction he would enjoy.
What I do remember is that several of the men felt uncomfortable in that room. You could tell. They only politely laughed and they looked like they would prefer to be anywhere but there.
I watched the program for a couple of minutes then I turned around and said "Great! But what else does it do?" And everyone laughed. Even the guys who felt like they didn't want to be there. All the tension left the room.
I think women have such a tough job in the workplace. You have to be hard yet you have to be soft too. If you are too hard, the sensitive guys won't be able to align with you. If you are too soft, the macho guys won't be able to deal with you either. You have to be almost schizo since you need to be hard and soft. Tough yet sweet.
Hillary is my hero since she did all sides of the spectrum so well. She shed tears when she had to, she threatened to bomb Iran when she had to. She showed all the angles women have to show to get ahead.
You have to whip those sports guys back onto your team. If they all think they are too macho, I'd be a little bit more of a b*tch, a funny b*tch but definitely not a sister type. Don't let them walk on you. Put them back in their place. If they treat you bad, say "Excuse me? If you think you can walk on me... " Then read them the riot act. You'll probably only have to do that once. Parent
Hold this mental picture in mind: When I did win my appeal and promotion -- after many agonizing months, and no, I never will be over it, even years later -- I had turned from hot anger to cold anger, much more scary. So I followed workplace form and called for a meeting on a ruse. Once I got all the guys (and yes, all who had the power over me and voted me off the island were guys) in the room, I amended the agenda, as it were -- to the point that one finally made a motion for "mercy." After my reply to him, no one dared second him.
My agenda was a 33-item list detailing just some of what they had done to me in six years (the requisite number of years to come up for promotion). And when they started messing with me about it, I shut them down fast by using the line I had learned in the Hill-Thomas hearings: Do you want me to send a copy of this list to your wife/mother/sister/daughter? So they had to sit through an agonizing hour-and-a half for them but vengeful glee for me.
And when some kept saying, but but but this is not very likeable of you, what slayed them once and for all was my saying that they didn't get it -- that I didn't care a whit whether they liked me, but they darn well would at least act like they respected me, if only for the sake of other (lower-level) women in the office and young women interacting with all of us.
Now, not all guys were named on my list, as there were -- as others here note -- several who simply did nothing for years as I was mistreated. One of them, a dear guy, came to me after the meeting in his own agony and said he was so sorry, gosh, he really hadn't realized how bad it was blah blah blah. I told him he was a dear, as I would need him near again . . . but I also told him that the nuns (he was Catholic, too) had taught me that sins of omission were as sinful as are sins of commission. I think he went to confession fast.
Anyway, part of getting through may be to daydream of getting revenge -- not that you ought to do so, as I'm in a work situation that has its rules that I could use. But maybe just daydreaming of hideous tortures of the men might help.
However, I have to add, also see if you have an exit option. Things got better for me for a while, but with the hiring of another even more evil guy who also had the energy to do serious harm, I finally got a transfer to another area of my sizeable workplace. It set back my career considerably, at great monetary cost to me ever since -- but it's just money. I am much happier.
Hang in there, Creeper. Come on back anytime for support, too. Support made all the difference to me. If only there had been the internets then. :-) Parent
There are ways to fight back:
Humor works a lot of times. Being a b*tch works sometimes. Being a genuinely warm motherly woman works sometimes too.
Ultimately, you have to fight it because, if you don't, it will only set you back. So, you need to figure out how to counter this to put you on equal footing -- and that's the part that can be tricky. Parent
Kidding aside, yes, you do need to look at the situation and decide how best to respond. You need to learn to detach and take an overview perspective. It's hard, but putting emotion aside to look at the situation can work well.
I'm usually pretty good at dealing, but the blindsides get me. I find myself unable to respond because I'm too busy picking my jaw up off the ground :(
I must say, I'm damn glad my "coworkers" all have fur and 4 legs at this point in time! Parent
If someone told me to "Shut up," I'd be inclined to say "But I've only begun to speak!" with a wide-eyed innocent look that might throw them off.
Honestly, in all my years of work, I've put up with some disgusting BS mostly because I got hardened over time. You have to remember though, a lot of men are sensative and don't exactly condone this type of behavior either -- they are just too weak to stand up to it. So, women are expected to stand up to it and stand above it at the same time. We walk on a very thin tightrope. That's why it really helps to have a very good sense of humor. Parent
One guy was just oblivious. Even the trainer got after him about it. So when the vet came to geld one of the colts who had gotten too rank to train, I had a little word with him and a couple of the grooms. When the vet was done with the colt, he turned and said, "Got any others to cut?" I said, "Yeah, one." And pointed to the oblivious guy. The other grooms grabbed him, dropped his pants and spread him out on the shedrow. The vet washed him off with Betadine, and got out his scalpel. You never heard so much noise!! And shrill too..really shrill. The trainer arrived in time to "rescue" him. After that, the groom was oh so polite.
I did have one incident where a groom reached out and grabbed my boob, then laughed. I smiled at him, kicked him hard right below the knee cap on both legs, and then nailed his crotch as he was rolling on the ground. That was the last time anyone put their hands on me without permission. Even when they legged me up on a horse, they asked first.
Humor works well, pain works better. Heh. Parent
If only more Oblivious Ones could have revelations like that! Parent
The internet stuff has been going on longer. Once the boyz found out that I was a lady I was called all kinds of names. Parent
Recently, Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton was the victim of what I perceive to be a writ of proscription levied against her by her own party. Using racism, gender bias, character assassination, mass media propaganda and just plain, old fashioned mean spiritedness and greed as tools, the opportunity for the most qualified candidate to lead our country was effectively removed. We sat and watched while the DNC systematically destroyed any hope of Sen. Clinton to earn the office she was competing for, and then, watched further, while she was publicly humiliated and forced to proclaim her support for her rival, Barrack Hussein Obama. Although ancient Rome was arguably one of the more savage cultures in world history, there was at least a modicum of respect for those who were proscribed. But today's proscription is more brutal than it was in ancient times.
For example: In ancient Rome, the dead body of those who were proscribed was not paraded about the Empire while a ventriloquist had them seemingly spouting accolades to support their former rival. Parent
It's scary in a way that a person could be so utterly discounted. I know it's a function of the perpetrators' inability to make their argument rationally but that makes it all the more frightening when it works because there's little defense against it.
Humor may be the only way to handle it though it's hard to think of anything funny in some of those situations. Parent
51.1% of the population is a "niche"? I said. Issues that affect that 51.1% are a "single issue"?
Yes, apparently. In the eyes of many, the rights of women are tiny and trivial and not at all important.
But it wasn't just men saying this.
And I have to highly recommend the quick and dirty response to being grabbed or fondled. Go for their balls - grab and give a good hard squeeze while looking him right in the eyes. They don't expect it, and nothing is quite as effective in getting your point across. You don't have to hurt them too badly, just make it very clear that you could. Parent
Also, the "Change, change, CHANGE, cHaNgE, ChAnGe, change, change, change, change" thing is really wearing thin.
I want some meat. Some concrete. I want to hear some new things. I want some serious CHANGE! George Bush is so yesterday. I want to hear about tomorrow.
Works even better than Alice's Restaurant! Parent
What we are getting is spam. Lots and lots of spam. Obama is the spam king. He has spammed "change."
I can't believe I'm the only one who is upset about this! If I were a reporter in his press corps, I would have complained in print by now. I'm just really getting sick of the word.
Change.
Yuck!!!!!
The only thing that would impress me would be [for them] to get on a bus or train right now and head off for the heartland. i'd go where all of this tragedy with the weather is taking place. i'd have some of these young people out there asking people what they need and want instead of telling them.
Thanks for thinking of us, hellothere. We are reeling here. You may have seen the horrific devastation in our lovely Dells, where with tourism our number-one industry in Wisconsin, this means that thousands of workers -- including many of my students -- are suddenly out of jobs this summer to pay for college in fall.
But beyond homes toppling into newly formed rivers hundreds of feet wide, devastation that you see on tv, those are only a few of the thousands of Wisconsinites and other Midwesterners now homeless or with homes badly damaged -- but homeowners who tried to get flood insurance but were denied because dams don't break. Well, the dams didn't break, but new rivers formed to take homes away, to flood thousands of others . . . and even entire downtowns of some of our largest cities. And our record rainfall of as much as a foot in a matter of hours now is threatening dams, with thousands more being evacuated today and tonight, to await whoknowswhat tomorrow -- when it will rain again.
And not just homes but entire worthy groups are getting hit, like the Hispanic community group in my city had just bought two buildings for a new center -- two multistory buildings that collapsed from the rains even on only the first night. That will mean more thousands of our most needy will not get basic community services for years, while the group has to recover from its loss.
And everyone, please also think of our farmers, already dealing with a very late spring due to our record winter precipitation (aka snow:-) and now looking at flooded fields that may mean a year's livelihood lost. And this at the time that our state already was reeling from yet more factory closings by the thousands, many in the towns nearby those farmers who worked two jobs to hang onto the land they love -- some of them "century farms" in their families for a hundred years or more -- and now may have lost both jobs.
Enough. I can't begin to describe what is happening here and across the Midwest. We are grateful for few fatalities. We fortunate ones can cope with flooded basements for two days now -- my son and his dad have shop-vac'd and bailed water for all but a few hours in the last 48 -- because we still have our homes. To see how bad and sad it is, just in my city, see jsonline.com. And since this still-barely-blue state has been denied federal disaster status and funds through disaster after disaster as punishment for staying Dem, ask your Congress critters to help push for our plea for federal disaster status, and fast.
It could help to get some families back into their homes, some farmers back into their fields, and some students back into college in fall. Thanks.
I remember the devastation well. We lost many homes in Missouri that were not in a flood plain and so also had no flood insurance. Our crops this year are lagging behind every other state thanks to the wet spring. Many farmers here are very anxious and they don't even have a crop in the field that would be lost and need to be replanted if it flooded.
Cross our fingers that the weather patterns will change soon. I don't see the coverage of this on the news that it probably warrants but have no doubt it could get much worse before it gets better. Parent
Even so, as you know well, we now have to fight for weeks against the mold and mildew damage that already is beginning. Tomorrow, the trip to the home supply store is for bleach for some of our basement walls, where we have some seepage. And in a house over a hundred years old, it can happen fast. I'm already back on allergy meds, as my nose knows before the spots begin on the walls.:-) Even in the big city, our water supply was badly compromised by sewage system overruns. The city is even warning the usual cadre of curb scavengers to stay away from the stuff stacking up on curbs, as it could make them sick.
Ohhhhh no, as I write this, I hear rains again. They weren't supposed to come so soon. And now thunder. Time to get out the flashlight, the transistor radio, the cell phone, and check the weather watches and warnings. . . . Cheers. Parent
I've always wanted to visit the Dells because it looks so beautiful up there.
What town are you in? Parent
The Dells are phenomenal, the result of another natural disaster (at least for the mammal life here then) 15,000 years ago when an Ice Age lake drained just as yesterday's did, and the ancient one carved and curved through sandstone to create our gorgeous gorge called the Dells. The way to see them is from the lovely Wisconsin River, and on our "Dells ducks, WWII amphibious land-water vehicles . . . but not for a few years now, as that operation was on the Lake Delton that is no more now, until engineers figure out how to fill it again.
But in our state where tourism is our number-one industry, the number-one site remains my town, Milwaukee -- and especially in summer, when we have ethnic festivals every weekend to celebrate our immigrant heritage (and one in fall for our Native heritage here) as well as the world's largest music festival, Summerfest. And our gorgeous Great Lake is wonderful 24/7 -- I'm just a few blocks from it and thus not far from our world-famous Calatrava-designed art museum and much more. Ya oughta come down by Mwokee, ain'a hey, as we say! Parent
This is 1993 all over again. And it's not good. We'll lose a lot of the crop this year. I cringe to think what that will do to food and fuel prices.
My son works barges. He'll be without a job if this continues. Treacherous currents and the effect of boat wakes on flooded ground have already closed some stretches of the Mississippi.
Our governor, also a Democrat, has said that fully a third of Iowa counties need federal aid. I wonder if we'll get it. Not a word out of Washington so far.
Hang in there, Cream City. You are not alone. Parent
What does that say about his position on NAFTA? He hasn't been banging the NAFTA drum lately. I guess he only pretended to oppose NAFTA to get votes from those bitter small town hicks who cling to guns, religion, xenophobia, and anti-free trade sentiment.
Today, Sen. McCain is a very bad man for supporting the Bear Stearns bailout. But once upon a time, Obama was in favor.
Also, Goolsbee was in favor of the subprime lending practices that got us in trouble. Further, Obama now has a corporate bigshot involved with the subprime debacle . . . helping him to pick his VP.
And how 'bout them Iranian Revolutionary Guards? He viciously attacked Sen. Clinton as a "saber-rattling" warmonger for voting to call them terrorists. (TalkLeft thread on the subject here.) What did he do last week? He called them terrorists, and he says he's always wanted them to be called terrorists (the McCain press release in that link shows in detail how Sen. Obama was unfair to Sen. Clinton, which is why I included it).
Change you can believe in.
This isn't the last of it. He's going to flip flop every week between now and the convention. He won't flip flop on keeping troops in Iraq . . . at least, not until after the convention. He doesn't want to get booed out of Denver. No, look for that flip-flop in early September. If he's really craven, he's already got it scheduled for September 11, 2008.
These ever-shifting/flip-flopping stances need to stop. He needs to stand for something. He doesn't have the long record McCain has so you don't know what things he really will stand up for and what he won't. Parent
AND, he doesn't have a long record to look at. Honestly, where does he stand? Who knows? Right? Without the long record, there is no telling what he believes on any of the issues.
I'm voting for McCain because of this (and because my state is solidly blue -- I can't hope to eat into the blue unless I vote for red!) Parent
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As long as their message to her was without an "all caps" dialog and shows her response to be unreasonably angry, she will be more likely to lose her "gigs".
I read that the DNC is now starting to get very angry with their callers, as well. Parent
James Johnson, one of three people tapped by Mr. Obama recently to oversee the search for his running mate, took at least five real estate loans totaling more than $7 million from Countrywide Financial Corp. through an informal program for friends of the company's CEO, Angelo Mozilo, the Wall Street Journal reported Saturday. The Journal said at least two of the mortgages, among a series of loans made available to people Countrywide officials called "friends of Angelo," were at rates below market averages, though it is difficult to predict a market rate without access to nonpublic information about a borrower's credit history and other factors that can reduce interest charges on a loan.
Among the loans to Mr. Johnson, according to the Journal, were a $5 million home equity line of credit against a house in Ketchum, Idaho, a 5.25% loan of $1.3 million for a home in Palm Desert, Calif., and a 3.875% loan of $971,650 for a home in Washington, D.C. The interest rates applied for the first five years of the loans."
story via Politco from the NY Sun
(The WSJ also had an article about this this past weekend)
Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's May 2006 report on mismanagement and corruption inside Fannie Mae
And again, Obama shows superior judgment with those he surrounds himself with. Parent
I didn't even mention one of the other people on his VP search committee - Eric Holden - who was criticized by both Dems and Republicans for his role and oblivion to the conflict of interest in the Marc Rich pardons. He's also someone to watch as an AG candidate. Yikes! Parent
Despite what some naive people will tell you. Parent
Obama's administration, if he makes it that far, will still be compared to the last Dem administration. Not the last Republican Administration.
Favorably or disfavorably as the case may be. Parent
we ran a 24hr shop because we had too limited funds to hire adequate staff. why? because the kids who were running the show alienated every older democrat they encountered! it was a classic parent/child war! the problem is that the "children" running the base level campaign forgot to stop fighting when they got mcgovern nominated!
The kids have no idea what they are doing, once again. Parent
A little song at the end of an open thread.
Because of my serendipitous moment yesterday with the Lyle Lovett title (Joshua Judges Ruth).
The Song is called "She's Leaving Me Because She Really Wants To."
Thank you my friend I sincerely appreciate the words you say About how she'll cry And how she'll grieve and miss me When she goes away Say them again I need to hear the words once more I can't believe How she'll miss me when she's gone And how she'll want to come back home And never leave But she's leaving me Because she really wants to And she'll be happy when she's gone She'll be happy She'll be so very happy She'll dance and sing Or even learn to fly And spend her time with anyone but me What's that you say That I'll get over her the more that time goes by But time goes so slow When all I have to do is sit around and cry No she won't be back I'd be a fool to try to fool myself that way I know she hasn't one regret Because she hasn't had one since The day she came to stay She's leaving me Because she really wants to And she'll be happy when she's gone She'll be happy She'll be so very happy She'll dance and sing And even learn to fly And spend her time with anyone but me She'll be happy when she's gone She'll be happy when she's gone She'll be happy when she's gone She'll be happy when she's gone
Say them again I need to hear the words once more I can't believe How she'll miss me when she's gone And how she'll want to come back home And never leave
But she's leaving me Because she really wants to And she'll be happy when she's gone She'll be happy She'll be so very happy She'll dance and sing Or even learn to fly And spend her time with anyone but me
What's that you say That I'll get over her the more that time goes by But time goes so slow When all I have to do is sit around and cry
No she won't be back I'd be a fool to try to fool myself that way I know she hasn't one regret Because she hasn't had one since The day she came to stay
She's leaving me Because she really wants to And she'll be happy when she's gone She'll be happy She'll be so very happy She'll dance and sing And even learn to fly And spend her time with anyone but me
She'll be happy when she's gone She'll be happy when she's gone She'll be happy when she's gone She'll be happy when she's gone
According to a Time reporter who has a new book out, Bush went to Rove's church with Karl and gave him the bad news - while they were there - that it was time for him to go.
Reminds me of people who break up in public places thinking it will avoid an emotional scene.
A Texas delegate who was on that Monday night call posted a comment on the blog where the unfounded rumor started:
"I am a National Delegate for Clinton from Texas. I was on the conference call. Delegates were NOT released. We were told the same thing YOU ALL were told on Saturday. That she endorsed and would work for Obama. To use the term "released" is not accurate. She and Harold Ickes asked that we hold together because of health care issues Hillary wants on the democrat platform. By the Way: ALL pledged delegates can vote their conscience at Denver. EVEN BO Pledged delegates can switch at Denver"
To use the term "released" is not accurate. She and Harold Ickes asked that we hold together because of health care issues Hillary wants on the democrat platform.
By the Way: ALL pledged delegates can vote their conscience at Denver. EVEN BO Pledged delegates can switch at Denver"
If any blog went off like that about women, it would be dropped, I'm pretty certain. Why should gays get any less respect?
Those two articles are about the despicable Sullivan and the author of that post is a proud open gay. He is one of the most intelligent, and thoughtful people writing in blogs today.
Get a hold of yourself. Parent
So of course I'm a bit disappointed in his decision to back Obama early on.
Maybe there's still hope for Pete Buck. ;)
Reminds me of some other empty suit who is currently occupying the WH. Parent
Spend 4 months "on-the-books" for stimulus. End program.
Old arithmetic. Parent
The "burn rate" would drop to about $1 billion a month. Parent
It took Clinton's financial efforts about 3 years to become effective & attained surpluses in the 6th year.
These are just my guesses, not altogether factual, although Sen. Obama just added a Secy. Rubin colleague as an economic advisor. The approach could & should be similar. Parent
Then you come up with a one-word comment like this. I nearly spit my trendy Trader Joe's wasabi mayo on faux crab bits onto the computer screen. So I gotta say, this Dalton guy has a lot of sides to him yet to be seen. There may be hope for this country. Parent
I think Cream City's observation is worth a big "I second that". Parent
I'll add my name to the list of those supporting you for a future run for public office. I have been very impressed with your knowledge and even more with your temperament in discussions with others. Parent
So I hope you are not using your real name here, as some of your reasonableness could come back to haunt you in this crazy political climate, when reason is not a prized commodity and could be held against you. Parent
And it's cool, actually, that I do know your name now, as that means I can watch for your rise. And remember, rise you will, if you take the time to set the yeast properly. You have decades and decades ahead to do good, as long as you take the time now to do well. Finishing college comes first -- not that you have to rush through it. If opportunity to include in your preparation some out-of-class cool things to do, so what, take an extra semester. It's only three months, after all. Especially watch for, say, internships in D.C.? Almost every college in the country is part of that consortium program. :-) Parent
Obama does not really represent change. He just recycles old ineffective solutions to existing problems. Parent
The Palestinian factions Fatah and Hamas, at loggerheads since the Islamist Hamas seized power in the Gaza Strip last year, have sent emissaries to Dakar to engage in a "process of fraternal dialogue" mediated by Senegalese President Abdoulaye Wade, a statement said Saturday. "Emissaries of the leaders of Fatah and Hamas have met in Dakar where they started a process of fraternal dialogue aimed at ironing out divergences and reconciling the Palestinian family," said a statement sent to AFP by the Senegalese foreign ministry. The text dated Saturday was co-signed by Senegalese Foreign Minister Cheikh Tidiane Gadio "for the facilitator," by Hikmat Zeid for Fatah and by Emad Khalid Alamy for Hamas. The meeting, whose length was not stated, was an initiative by Wade who is current chairman of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC).. [snip] "We call for the immediate launch of a national dialogue based on the Yemen initiative" that foresees a return to the situation in the Gaza Strip prior to the Hamas takeover, Haniya said.
"Emissaries of the leaders of Fatah and Hamas have met in Dakar where they started a process of fraternal dialogue aimed at ironing out divergences and reconciling the Palestinian family," said a statement sent to AFP by the Senegalese foreign ministry.
The text dated Saturday was co-signed by Senegalese Foreign Minister Cheikh Tidiane Gadio "for the facilitator," by Hikmat Zeid for Fatah and by Emad Khalid Alamy for Hamas.
The meeting, whose length was not stated, was an initiative by Wade who is current chairman of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC)..
[snip]
"We call for the immediate launch of a national dialogue based on the Yemen initiative" that foresees a return to the situation in the Gaza Strip prior to the Hamas takeover, Haniya said.
AFP
The Yemen initiative has no preconditions. A non-conditional dialogue has started.
McCain and Roe v. Wade
In a 1999 interview with the San Francisco Chronicle editorial board, McCain said, "I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America" to undergo "illegal and dangerous operations." George W. Bush turned that statement against him in the 2000 race for the GOP nomination. The National Right to Life Committee ran ads denouncing McCain -- one reason he lost the important South Carolina primary to Bush.
George W. Bush turned that statement against him in the 2000 race for the GOP nomination. The National Right to Life Committee ran ads denouncing McCain -- one reason he lost the important South Carolina primary to Bush.
Something to ponder....
Is Polanski a great filmmaker who made a mistake, or a perverted coward who ran from the law instead of facing the music? Watch the film and decide for yourself. Parent
from the Hollywood Reporter:
It really is an amazing story, and Zenovich does it justice. She includes dozens of interviews, and did dozens more she doesn't include. Except for some rare archival footage, such as a scene of Polanski on the set of "The Fearless Vampire Killers" directing Sharon Tate, the director was not interviewed for the film. But many people from his life appear as friendly witnesses, including Geimar. In addition, Zenovich and her crack editor Joe Bini expertly weave in telling scenes from Polanski's films that suggest his legal troubles were like something out of one of his dark and twisted movies.
Most people remember that Polanski left the country, but few know why and under what circumstances. "Wanted and Desired" finally sets the record straight, and, if there is any justice in the world, Polanski will be allowed to return to this country not as a pariah but as someone who made a mistake and has more than paid for it. Parent
Might have been some underlying issues. Sex crime prosecutions are notorious in the criminal justice system. Parent
Clinton releases delegates?
Hillary Clinton on Monday asked Democratic primary delegates who would have supported her in her presidential bid to back her former rival Barack Obama. The request came in a Monday night teleconference, said Virgil J. Mayberry, a Rock Island County Board member and one of Sen. Clinton's delegates. Sen. Clinton threw her support behind Sen. Obama Saturday after suspending her campaign. "She wants us to unite behind Obama and help him," said Mr. Mayberry, who chairs his party's minority caucus on the county board. Mr. Mayberry said Sen. Clinton talked for about five minutes to Democratic national convention delegates from all over the country. She appeared upbeat, he said. "Over the phone, she seemed jovial," he said. "I can't say happy-happy, but she was talking to her people." According to Mr. Mayberry, she also thanked the delegates for their support and said she planned on continuing to pursue health care as a major issue for the party during the upcoming campaign. But Sen. Clinton would not discuss her intentions toward the vice president's position on Sen. Obama's ticket, he said.
The request came in a Monday night teleconference, said Virgil J. Mayberry, a Rock Island County Board member and one of Sen. Clinton's delegates.
Sen. Clinton threw her support behind Sen. Obama Saturday after suspending her campaign.
"She wants us to unite behind Obama and help him," said Mr. Mayberry, who chairs his party's minority caucus on the county board.
Mr. Mayberry said Sen. Clinton talked for about five minutes to Democratic national convention delegates from all over the country. She appeared upbeat, he said.
"Over the phone, she seemed jovial," he said. "I can't say happy-happy, but she was talking to her people."
According to Mr. Mayberry, she also thanked the delegates for their support and said she planned on continuing to pursue health care as a major issue for the party during the upcoming campaign.
But Sen. Clinton would not discuss her intentions toward the vice president's position on Sen. Obama's ticket, he said.
I think this means that the August scenario is no longer viable.
I just hope that Hillary gets whatever it is that she has to have been promised in order to make this move. Or maybe, it's what she knew she would do all along, believing that there would be no moving forward until she did so. I think there had to have been enormous pressure on her not to be seen as standing in the way, preventing a full-throated general election strategy.
Even though she has given them permission to vote for Obama, I suppose there is nothing that says they have to, but I think unless something looks remarkablty different in August than it does today, Obama will get the nod on the first ballot. Wouldn't surprise me if there was pressure to make it a nomination by acclamation so as to skip all the feared drama.
It's all very sad and demoralizing. Parent
What's demoralizing is the realization that so many have fought the good fight so hard, for so long, only to be thwarted by the Democratic Party itself. No one minds a fair fight, but this one wasn't - and is a big factor in why so many are leaving the party.
I think there are a lot of people who had the power to do this the right way, who didn't fight for that principle, who gave in as if it didn't matter - for them, yeah, I think karma might be a much bigger b!ich than they realized. Parent
And if there was, I think anything that big would taint the whole party, including Hillary. I wouldn't want her to have to run with something like that hanging around.
They chose him, he chose himself, they can win or lose on their own. I'm looking to 2012 now.
I'm not as demoralized as I probably should be. Sent in my switch to indie this week (copy to Dean), nonvoting in November, won't watch the convention except when Hillary speaks, and now looking at my local races.
Regardless what happens, Hillary is still standing. She's not going anywhere. Parent
His take is this
"Ickes, in response to another question, stated that no party rules actually require delegates to vote for their pledged delegates (this was in response to a "when are we released?" question). Though, I think that works both ways! 8)
Ickes also seemed to be saying (this is what I got from it, I may be wrong), that HRC would be leveraging her delegates to get spots for her people on the platform committee, etc., at Denver. IMHO, I think it's retarded (I apologize if there's a better word to use...), b/c the platform is worth #%&@. Seriously...raise your hand if you've ever read the party platform? That's what I thought. IMHO, the only leveraging is getting a role in picking A) the VP pick or B) the next DNC chair or C) potential future administration people. But whatever, that's just me..." Parent
On the other hand, most people thought Obama got her pledged delegates when he announced he'd won anyway, so might as well give them to him now and not in some big sickening show at the convention. Parent