Personally, I find Obama kind of scary simply because he appears to have no real "set" values.  He's always like a moving target.  Today it's this, tomorrow it's something else.  

As of right now, I can't vote for him.  I wish I could because he is the Democratic candidate and I've voted for all of them since 1975!  But this candidate makes me really nervous...  Really nervous.  I don't want to be bamboozled or okie-dokied or tricked.  

>>>>Obama blamed criticism from "my friends on the left" and "some of the media" in part on cynicism that ascribes political motives for every move candidates make

Do they realize Obama demolished their one thread of hope that his flip flop on FISA is merely a political calculation??

the FISA cave in is just obviously a cave in I don't even listen to the democrats about it.

Newsweek Blog Finally Decides to Debunk the Obama "Cash Cow" Myth
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6xnv42

It's making the retro Hillaryism of the 90s seem like the best option of all.

We've had more than enough of "trust me" over the last 8 years, don't you think?  And here's Obama, patting us on the head and expecting us to believe that he will be a better steward of the constitution than Bush - even as he advocates for passage of a bill that only further undermines that constitution.

I'm sorry - he can't have it both ways - not on these terms.  Not when there is nothing wrong with FISA.  Not when there are ways to "protect America" without shredding the Constitution.

Given that Congress seems incapable of serving as a check on the power of the presidency, I fear that they are setting up conditions where the balance of power will be forever tilted toward the president, and we will be at the mercy of whoever that is.

If we allow Obama this pass then a CEO is a CEO even when his workers are nearly paupers, after all its about capitalism and the free market and not about what's fair or equitable. It's about the bottom line, workers are not considered assets but an expense. Dollars to CEO are like words to politicians, it makes them the rock stars of their industries, it doesn't mean they have to be ethical or do a great job on behalf of their employees or their constituents. A CEO can get a 200 million dollar compensation package even when they fail. A politician can even neglect constituents ripped off by his supporter slumlord and still be a presidential nominee.

Doing the right thing is a moral calling on behalf of those you represent or employ. CEOs or politicians who neglect it are morally bankrupt and should not be rewarded for their failings.

After Pelosi said impeachment was "off the table" - Obama became the only Dem to declare Bush and Cheney had not committed impeachable offenses.

Rockefeller will vote 'yes' on FISA and last night, on the eve of the FISA vote, among wealthy donors gathered to get a glimpse of THE ONE - declared --

Mebbe he wants to turn it against the GOPukes, though I doubt it.

But doubtless he WANTS that power...

(Almost) Nada. Nothing. Zip.

msnbc news: nothing
cbs.com news: nothing
abc.com: nothing except about a 2-second sound byte about his supporters accusing him of flip-flopping on the wiretap bill (thrust of video is that Obama faces his greatest criticism from his own supporters).
cnn.com nothing

My guess is that an Obama filibuster would have brought negative reporting, and no reporting is better than negative reporting.

2 - Both Dem leadership and our presumptive nominee are now banking on us being the ignorant herd and either not paying attention or not caring come election time in order to accomplish #1.

3 - The arrogance of their thinking re: #'s 1 & 2 says something really shady about the type of politicians we have representing us.  These folks even w/a majority are only out for #1.  They believe they can do some cheap tricks like give us new roads and reallocate funds for programs developed by legislators in the past to placate us.

Our Founding Fathers, principally through the work of James Madison, (who is often called the "Father of the Constitution" because he was its principal author as well as writing the Bill of Rights) designed a system of divided government. Madison's believed that our government needed checks and balances to limit the powers of special interests. Madison eclipsed his mentor, Thomas Jefferson, by outlining a system of separate powers that has endured for over 200 years. He did such a good job we have had more Presidents (43) than Amendments (27) and our Constitution has endured through the Civil War and two impeachments, as well as other crises such a Watergate, the Great Depression, Disco and polyester leisure suits.

If P then Q
P
Therefore, Q

Here's a great if-then from BTD:
 if Obama believes the BS he said about the FISA Capitulation bill, then he is not fit to be President.

lack of experience;
mistakes he makes initially which he then backtracks on (learning on the job);
no history of strong work ethic;
throws strong democratc allies (or potential allies) under the bus when politically expedient (see Clark, Clintons);
complete lack of loyalty;
lack of commitment to any signature issue;
history of lack of judgement on MANY issues.

Because if Obama believes the BS he said about the FISA Capitulation bill, then he is not fit to be President.

welcome to the club, finally. i wondered what it was going to take, to open your eyes completely.

i don't hate sen. obama, i don't hate or disparage his supporters. i do, however, believe that it's long past time he stopped being adulated as the "second coming". he has feet of clay, and not even dry clay, given his lack of resume'.

Inevitably, such discussions are used to deflect from the substance of the post presented.

You can still discuss that topic in the threads of Jeralyn and TChris. But not mine.

Checking....  up, what a surprise.
Verizon, also up.

From the Church Report: