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Here's a thread for commenting on the Michelle Obama segment and speech scheduled to begin at 10 pm EDT.

Hmm, Republican Jim Leach to speak during the network hour? Bad idea. Scratch that, networks ignoring Leach. Guess that was the plan.

Michelle is on and showing great polish and skill. Looks like she will deliver a good speech. After Teddy, Michelle is the clear highlight of the night. She is doing good.

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    Seriously (5.00 / 4) (#27)
    by lilburro on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:02:51 PM EST
    I am expecting the Olympic torch to come through the room at any moment.

    Am I the only one?

    Castellanos.. (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:04:00 PM EST
    Have not watched CNN since the primaries.  Ok, why is this guy still on.  Talking about the Kennedies own the "moral high ground" of the party.  Is he serious, and the Clintons don't.  

    I love the Kennedys but (5.00 / 2) (#150)
    by BarnBabe on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:43:16 PM EST
    Talking about the Kennedies own the "moral high ground" of the party
    Apparently he does not know their history of the last 50 years.

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    He made the "Fatal Attraction" remark (none / 0) (#38)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:06:20 PM EST
    about Hil earlier today. Video over at Alegre's Blog.

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    Leach is impressive. Why (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:09:58 PM EST
    can't the Dems. talk like this?

    Leach is a good guy (none / 0) (#159)
    by Exeter on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:45:23 PM EST
    Considered switch parties several years ago, but thought he could do more good trying to fight the neocons from within his own party.

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    Jim Leach (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:10:27 PM EST
    is clearly there to provide a prophylactic against McCain's argument that Obama puts politics before country.  Yes, he's boring, but I hope you didn't expect more from an Iowa Republican!

    Boring is in the eye of the beholder (none / 0) (#108)
    by befuddledvoter on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:25:05 PM EST
    Jim Leach had the most substantive and interesting speech up to this point.  You can tell it was his own creation.  He has an intriguing perspective.  I will forget what most others have said. His words will stay with me.  

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    That's nice (5.00 / 4) (#111)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:26:37 PM EST
    Will it change one vote in Florida? Virginia? Colorado?

    This is free TV time being pissed away here!!!!

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    Pissed away indeed! (5.00 / 1) (#207)
    by MonaL on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:25:21 PM EST
    When a rabid Dem like me can only watch/listen in 2-3 minute increments before the insincerity of each speaker makes my ears hurt, how do they expect anyone else to pay attention.  They should have planned this a week after the Olympics, what a come down.

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    Isn't he the conventions pitch (none / 0) (#116)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:29:48 PM EST
    to the cross-over voter?

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    Maybe (none / 0) (#184)
    by befuddledvoter on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:05:25 PM EST
    He was persuasive with me.  

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    Well (none / 0) (#191)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:12:35 PM EST
    I hope they post the text somewhere, I suspect it will look better in print.

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    Quote of the Day (5.00 / 14) (#67)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:13:01 PM EST
    Carville:  If this party has a message they did a hell of a job hiding it.  

    I love that he's sitting next to Donna Brazille... (5.00 / 3) (#78)
    by Maria Garcia on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:15:06 PM EST
    ...as he said that. She's being very, very quiet.

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    Brazile was on last night (5.00 / 5) (#142)
    by litigatormom on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:39:34 PM EST
    on MSNBC.  She was confidently asserting that disgruntled Clinton supporters will "come home" and that there's no need to worry about them.

    Then she said a few nice things about Clinton. That really helped.  Not.

    Obama should not let her appear on TV. When I watch her, my resolve to vote for Obama wavers.

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    Well (5.00 / 1) (#96)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:19:17 PM EST
    Maybe James Carville needs Addison to teach him a little about politics.  It's intentionally boring, you see, so the exciting parts stand out more.

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    It's 10:21 (5.00 / 2) (#102)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:21:51 PM EST
    And Michelle Obama's segment has not started.

    This is ridiculous. Talk about pissing away your network hour.

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    "AWAITING MICHELLE OBAMA" (5.00 / 1) (#128)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:34:06 PM EST
    pre CNN.  

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    Well, Donna Brazile thinks it's just fine (none / 0) (#100)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:21:04 PM EST
    They got the roolz past!

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    BTW, Donna should never work for another (5.00 / 5) (#103)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:21:55 PM EST
    campaign. She is a walking, talking, trainwreck.

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    LMAO!!!!!!!!~~ (none / 0) (#75)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:14:31 PM EST
    I read that in his voice. THANK YOU!!!!

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    He continues (none / 0) (#81)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:15:49 PM EST
    "where is the urgency"  Gergen this is a tv show and they are wasting it.  So, I am not an idiot.  

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    You are not an idiot. (none / 0) (#104)
    by Iphie on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:22:47 PM EST
    And you are almost making me want to put on CNN.

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    Yup (none / 0) (#83)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:16:08 PM EST
    Ooh, Claire McKaskill! She ought to be exciting!!!!

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    Her delivery wasn't bad (none / 0) (#107)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:25:03 PM EST
    now what she said, whole 'nuther story  ;)

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    Did Donna just talk about (none / 0) (#105)
    by lilburro on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:22:56 PM EST
    her kitchen again?  

    I am in an Olympic hangover.  My dad mentioned during the Olympics that Phil Dalhausser looks like "a young James Carville" [apparently Carville never had hair]

    HAH - "I agree with my colleagues, that um, there are other ways to say 'thank you' in prime time..." re: McCaskill...

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    Carville is bored too (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:13:27 PM EST


    They got the Kerry playbook (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:14:21 PM EST
    The commercials are more interesting (5.00 / 2) (#92)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:18:23 PM EST
    than the content.

    If this convention were on broadway, it would close tonight.

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    H*ll (5.00 / 3) (#101)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:21:11 PM EST
    Kerry wasn't this bad. And it seems that they have learned nothing, NOTHING from the loss in 2004. Not only are they making the SAME mistakes, they are expanding them. Let's lose bigger and better!

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    Shoot. Me. Now. PLEASE. (5.00 / 2) (#71)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:13:35 PM EST


    Claire McCaskill's kids???!!! (5.00 / 6) (#79)
    by JavaCityPal on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:15:08 PM EST
    But no room for Charlie Rangel? Oh my.


    What I learned about Barack Obama tonight... (5.00 / 13) (#86)
    by Maria Garcia on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:17:33 PM EST
    ....really boring people like him.

    Ok...you got me on that one... (5.00 / 4) (#95)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:19:16 PM EST
    that is hilarious.  

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    As far as puff bio pieces go.. (5.00 / 1) (#114)
    by TheRealFrank on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:29:22 PM EST
    The intro isn't bad. I don't like this kind of thing, but I can see how it would appeal to people.


    It's better than the campaign commercials (none / 0) (#122)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:31:18 PM EST
    where they try and appeal on a personal level. Those just didn't register.

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    Whoever chose the music (5.00 / 1) (#115)
    by akaEloise on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:29:43 PM EST
    for this video and the Ted Kennedy one has a great future in the music-on-hold industry.  But for inspiring twenty-first political videos, no fricking way.  It's like The Very Worst of George Winston.  

    Twenty-first century...sorry (none / 0) (#119)
    by akaEloise on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:30:48 PM EST
    The intro video for Michelle was wonderful (5.00 / 1) (#117)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:29:56 PM EST
    I really liked hearing from her Mom.

    I liked the Dad part. I wish he was here to see (5.00 / 1) (#121)
    by Teresa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:31:08 PM EST
    her, too. I can't help it...I was the worldest biggest Daddy's Girl.

    I think this is an unfair recruiting advantage to (5.00 / 1) (#129)
    by Teresa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:34:15 PM EST
    Oregon St baskeball. :)

    I liked the video.

    Oregon State (none / 0) (#204)
    by zyx on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:22:01 PM EST
    lost EVERY conference basketball game this last year. EVERY one. They fired the coach and hired Robinson mid-season.

    If they get some help from this, maybe they'll win one or two games year after next.

    OSU has a great baseball team, though.

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    Joe Biden (5.00 / 2) (#132)
    by lilburro on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:35:24 PM EST
    constantly panned to, but why?  This is going to be a weird convention for him.

    "Suspected Assassination Attempt" (5.00 / 2) (#137)
    by Desired User Name on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:37:43 PM EST
    Did any of you catch that talk of the possible Obama assassination attempt? It was Katie Couric who tossed to another reporter (I think his name was Reynolds) and he "claimed" that 3 people with
    sniper gear and...many DRUGS? and they were...were ...possibly...uh...

    Well see, it was all a little sketchy and sounded truly bogus (to me!). And what's with DRUGS??
    Do assassin normally run around with a load of drugs?

    Reminded me of Bush/Cheney and the convenient "terror alerts" that always amounted to nothing more than piffle-paffle distracto politics.

    This assassination thing really stuck out as stink rotten. Anyone else catch this newsbreak??

    Am I being paranoid? suspicious? a nutter?
    It stinks to me!

    Was on local news (none / 0) (#143)
    by dissenter on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:39:41 PM EST
    Sounds like Meth freaks to me. Got busted driving erratically. Sounded like a stretch but who knows

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    i thought the same thing when I saw it (none / 0) (#145)
    by bjorn on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:40:45 PM EST
    online, but maybe there will be more tomorrow.

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    More narrative (5.00 / 1) (#146)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:41:01 PM EST
    and no democratic issues.  

    Issues?! (5.00 / 4) (#149)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:42:56 PM EST
    We don't need no stinkin' issues!

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    That is Republican (none / 0) (#154)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:44:27 PM EST
    is this not Greenwald's book, about the narrative?  

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    Carville and Gergen were (5.00 / 2) (#161)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:45:38 PM EST
    talking on CNN about how boring the convention has been and the fact that there aren't any themes or issues to it.

    Looking at the schedule, it looks to be continuing for the rest of the week. Everything is defensive. One night is about how Obama is like you. Another night is about How Obama can be commander in chief.

    Apparently, he has severe weaknesses in these areas from polling. We are having a poll driven convention where Obama is going to try to change American's perceptions of him.

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    Actually, I think she would be much (none / 0) (#163)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:46:08 PM EST
    stronger on issues if she were running. She's just following the narrative of the campaign. I prefer her as a speaker over hubby.

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    She's not bad so far (5.00 / 1) (#148)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:42:01 PM EST
    But I tink that might be the 50th time I have heard the phrase 'funny name' tonight.

    They're trying to push.. (5.00 / 0) (#164)
    by TheRealFrank on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:46:49 PM EST
    Working class backgrounds.

    Michelle Obama's speech is ok. It's well-written, the delivery is ok.

    And it's cool that she mentioned Hillary. That was needed, and they realized it.


    Shout out to Hillary (5.00 / 1) (#166)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:47:42 PM EST


    My wife (5.00 / 2) (#190)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:10:44 PM EST
    was happy when she mentioned Hillary, but then when she went on to mention Biden, she was like "oh, I guess it was just obligatory to bring her up."  I personally thought it was nice, but yeah.

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    I felt like your wife (5.00 / 2) (#192)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:12:44 PM EST
    I would have been more enthused if the previous comments about Hillary from Michelle had never been said.

    That being the case it was still a nice, safe speech.

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    Well (5.00 / 2) (#202)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:21:19 PM EST
    Obviously stuff that was said in the past doesn't get unsaid, but I'm always looking for an excuse to move past that kind of thing.

    Something that depresses me as I watch this convention, after everything that's gone on in the last year, is that by all rights I should be much more excited about this candidacy than I am.

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    Hillary Clinton's name (5.00 / 2) (#167)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:48:10 PM EST
    got the second biggest cheer of the night.

    I like her speaking style better than Barack's-- (5.00 / 1) (#168)
    by jawbone on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:48:19 PM EST
    I read an article early on how she managed a crowd masterfully. Written by someone who had seen her work lots of crowds. She had a tempo and routine to build up to a pretty emotional climax for her speeches, iirc.

    Anyway, easier to listen to someone who speaks flowingly, in sentences, not little broken phrases.

    Maybe she can sub for him in speeches....

    Our word is our bond? (5.00 / 1) (#173)
    by dissenter on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:52:04 PM EST
    FISA

    Respect?

    Sorry, but I'm gonna be sick

    Can someone please help (5.00 / 2) (#174)
    by suisser on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 10:12:59 PM EST
    me understand when being a hospital administrator became  public service?

    Especially at the enormous pay rate (5.00 / 1) (#178)
    by JavaCityPal on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 10:58:22 PM EST
    she was getting...

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    I've read her job involves (none / 0) (#198)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:17:06 PM EST
    getting uninsured patients to community clinics, as opposed to getting care at her hospital.

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    Love the Kids (5.00 / 3) (#177)
    by Redshoes on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 10:45:23 PM EST
    he's on the video and they call out "Hi Daddy!"  They're great.  Too funny!  I love that the little one (Sasha) is upstaging Dad!   Refreshing and fun.  

    Those kids are worth a couple of votes themselves (5.00 / 2) (#187)
    by samtaylor2 on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:08:15 PM EST
    Hella cute.  

    It is a shame that in our country they are afraid to mention the fact that she went to princeton (graduated cum laude) and Harvard Law.   That was an obivous choice.

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    the VP might not like it (none / 0) (#193)
    by dws3665 on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:12:46 PM EST
    after all, his wife's doctorate is a problem, but heck, she is "drop dead gorgeous."

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    great speech (5.00 / 3) (#182)
    by MrPope on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:02:32 PM EST
    great speech... seeing all the hillary supporters in the crowd weeping was inspiring.

    nice to see a strong woman stand up in front of millions and shine.

    the kiddies at the end  upstaging daddy was brilliant.

    foxnews had Karl Rove on to critique the speech...thats like asking darth Vader to give his opninion on Luke Skywalkers speech to the rebellion b4 the strike on the Death Star

    Fantastic speech (5.00 / 1) (#183)
    by NvlAv8r on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:04:34 PM EST
    For not being a pol she did great.  Spoke about her bio to make middle America comfortable, threw out a few "I love this country" lines, and emotionally connected.  I think she did wonderful.

    And those kids are super cute!

    I thought Michelle did a great job (5.00 / 3) (#185)
    by DemForever on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:06:22 PM EST
    A little nervous, a little rushed at times, but she came off far different than the ugly picture the RW has been trying to paint.   And the ending was great.

    I liked it (5.00 / 1) (#188)
    by Realleft on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:09:26 PM EST
    And giving Senator Clinton the top recognition was classy.  Save Sen. Biden for 2nd mention, nice.  The sense of what could have been if Sen. Clinton was VP nominee is palpable.  Still, I think she'll do more in the Senate than she would have been able to in a supporting role as VP, and since Biden won't have presidential aspirations, I think Clinton will be back and at the top in 2016 if the Dems win.  I hope to see a Dem victory and a rebalancing of power between the executive and legislative branches over the next 4 years.  Whatever her formal role in leadership in the Senate, she has major voter mandate to press forward on legislation that will change America.  

    Per Ben Stein on Larry King: (5.00 / 2) (#199)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:19:23 PM EST
    all cliches.  Of course she loves her husband and kids, of course she had a father, etc

    Heh (5.00 / 3) (#206)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:24:13 PM EST
    As a Democrat, I cannot think of anyone I would rather have speaking for the Republicans than Ben Stein.

    It's funny how all the professional Republicans understood that Michelle Obama gave a very nice speech and it would be counterproductive to try and tear her down.  And then here comes whiny Ben Stein to tell us how it was all just a bunch of cliches, blah blah blah.

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    Matthew Dowd, Mark Halperin both said atmosphere (5.00 / 4) (#200)
    by jawbone on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:19:39 PM EST
    in hall was very low energy, not much crowd involvement, little enthusiasm. Part of panel on Charlie Rose Show. They said if this doesn't change by Thursday, it bodes ill for the Obama campaign and Dem chances of winning the presidency. They also think the presidency is Obama's to lose, given the mood of the country. That if Obama doesn't connect with the public, if voters decide they don't know enough about him, he loses.

    I had felt that the hall seems to suck up the crowd noise and even the speakers seemed very distant from the audience. I was thinking it was the cavernous venue.

    But, they were attributing the lack of energy to those Clinton supporters who aren't getting on board. Okaaay.

    Then one guy said it's bcz people don't know Obama, goes on to add that means they think he's not like them. Got into white resistance to voting for a black a little bit. Connie Schultz said voters saying they don't know Obama is code for race, saying he's not patriotic enough is code for race, etc.

    Now, I've been trying to figure out what Obama stands for since it looked like he would be a contender. At times I'm even more confused even with all the reading I've done and all the research, given his statements on issues and his actual votes and actions. The pundits do not talk about that part of "knowing Obama." Or his lack of speificity, at least on this panel when I was listening.

    Mathew Dowd said something sensible: It's up to the politician to bring people to him or her. Any time a pol tells voters what they need to do and feel (shades of BushBoy), it means the pol is not connecting, not persuading. Michelle Norris says no, not sure it can be done about race.

    Every time pundits talk about the public not feeling they know Obama, I then wait for them to say it's bcz Obama gives voters so few specifics. But, no, it's a class issue (white working class, of course) and possibly race issue and the Clintons' fault.

    The panel, chortling delightedly, said Hillary isn't going to be a problem for Obama (well, some think she will be), but Bill Clinton is bcz he's very angry and upset. Oh. Bcz he won't be the major domo, the person in control.  They also pointed out that Obama spoke to Bill on Thursday and didn't tell him he'd made his VP pick. Well, what was that supposed to mean? An insult? What? Letting Bill know he has no role in the ObamaNation?

    Another weird comment from the panel: that there's some kind of proposal that the delegates not vote on the nominee in the convention hall but from their hotel rooms. What world are they on? Why have a convention, why not let them phone in votes or email them from their homes? Sheesh. Unreal.

    Also discussed state chairs telling delegates they can't wear Hillary buttons, shirts, etc., in the hall--but people are doing it anyway. Oooooh! Revolt of the delegates.

    I'm so old I remember when delegates wore the pins and carried signs for the people they were pledged to vote for! I am such a fossil!

    Delegates can't wear Clinton buttons? (5.00 / 5) (#209)
    by Cream City on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:44:06 PM EST
    Why didn't the Obama camp just issue uniforms?

    This is such crap to read about that I am very glad that I missed most of the convention tonight.

    A new tradition that I plan to continue after tomorrow night.  Reading more and more about the behaviors continuing at the convention that were seen at the caucuses is just a total turnoff.

    So I'll be turning the tv to a lot of other channels.  And I always have so enjoyed watching conventions.  But not this one, not where good Dems are being called Uncle Toms and told which buttons to wear.  

    It all is too reminiscent of another land, another time . . . and I still am uncomfortable about Obama picking Berlin and then encouraging the chanting there.

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    I liked Michelle's speech! (5.00 / 0) (#210)
    by eleanora on Tue Aug 26, 2008 at 12:17:04 AM EST
    Her text needed a bit more zip, but she delivered it beautifully. And their little girls are completely adorable, so happy to see their dad on the big screen. Glad I didn't watch anything but Teddy and Michelle tonight though, just hoping to get a little of that unity buzz going in my house.

    God, Leach is boring too (4.66 / 3) (#43)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:07:16 PM EST
    This is boring night, I guess.

    The CNN commentators sound depressed... (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by Maria Garcia on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:10:14 PM EST
    ...they were expecting to be inspired. :-(

    But on the bright side even its a pretty good setup for Michelle. The relief will be cathartic when a person with a pulse finally comes to the podium.

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    I was just thinking that. (none / 0) (#64)
    by TheRealFrank on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:12:30 PM EST
    So far, I've only seen one other convention in US television coverage (2004), but so far this was boring. Obama was actually one of the highlights of 2004, his speech felt fresh and exciting at the time (but then he went on to repeat the same thing too many times).

    People staring at teleprompters doing their speeches in a wooden fashion.

    "I was in Iowa.
     Obama inspired me.
     Change."

    I was wondering if it was just me, since I'm currently not feeling too good about the whole empty theater of politics, but I see that others agree.

    Oh well. Back to the tv. Maybe I need some more wine..


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    What a weird thing to say... (4.33 / 3) (#136)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:36:44 PM EST
    In the filmed intro Michelle said she heard about this new guy at her law firm and "his name was Barack Obama...who names their kid Barack Obama, he must be weird". Not very progressive or open-minded of her now was it?

    In their first meeting he was late and she thought "he must not have his act together". (Judgmental much? Tone deaf much?)

    Ohh (none / 0) (#144)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:40:18 PM EST
    he did a dog whistle with the word "kid" according to the cultists. Or is does that only work when someone who's not an Obamafan says it?

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    haven't you ever thought that (5.00 / 1) (#160)
    by coigue on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:45:33 PM EST
    about someone with a funny name? It's a fairly common question..

    Like....who names their kid "apple" for instance.

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    Heh (5.00 / 2) (#176)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 10:40:29 PM EST
    I have too much liberal guilt pent up inside me to allow myself a reaction to someone's ethnic name.  I guess Michelle didn't have that problem ;)

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    you are so PC, you forgot (none / 0) (#181)
    by coigue on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:02:00 PM EST
    the "White" in the white liberal guilt.

    I don't really think African Americans suffer from that problem (if it is a problem).

    I saw a black comedian talking about Obama as a comedy topic. He said white talk show hosts have too much of teh "WLG" to tackle him, but black comics are all over it.

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    Heh (none / 0) (#186)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:07:12 PM EST
    Well, you have me pegged!

    On the subject of comics, I tend to agree with Ta-Nehisi Coates who says it's really just a case of comics not trying hard enough.

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    maybe so, LOL. (none / 0) (#189)
    by coigue on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:09:32 PM EST
    I don't think Barack Obama is a funny name... (none / 0) (#195)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:14:55 PM EST
    Does that make me weird?

    I don't get whatever it is that makes it sound "funny" or "weird" to Barack and Michelle and the Obama camp in general. I wish they'd tell the rest of us what's going on with them and the name. Personally, in my line of work, I've heard too many names from too many places to find anything remarkable about this particular name.

    BTW, the name Barack Obama is not on par with the name Apple: a fruit that nobody other than Gweneth Paltrow has ever chosen to use for the name of a child. So, bad example.

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    I hope she hits a homerun (3.66 / 3) (#20)
    by Lil on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:58:34 PM EST
    I have not really liked her at all, but I'm dying to fall in love with this family. I want to get excited about WINNING again! I hope she changes my mind a little tonight and then the Clintons bring it home the rest of the week! BTW, is Feingold scheduled at all this week. if anyone know?

    Me too... (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by justinboston2008 on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:08:13 PM EST
    I am REALLY trying to get on board with this ticket... I have to say though that so far the hopium is not working :)

    No a big fan of Michelle Obama, but I wish her the best of luck tonight... Who knows maybe she'll hit a grand slam.

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    Michelle tempered things (1.20 / 5) (#194)
    by MrPope on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:12:52 PM EST
    Michelle stood up for all women up there tonight...it was just amazing...

    If i was a hillary supporter who has been saying they would never vote for OBAMA... i think this would sway me alot

    well, you're not (5.00 / 4) (#205)
    by dws3665 on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:23:44 PM EST
    so the point of your post is more than a bit disingenuous.

    I thought she did well, but some amazing outreach to women, this was not.

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    Momentum and how to kill it (none / 0) (#1)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:48:16 PM EST
    Ted gives a great speech, then put the Chicago voter registrar.  

    No kidding (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:49:29 PM EST
    Even though Teddy lost me at the end with all the Obama passing torch stuff, this guy is terrible.

    And I swear, if voters weren't tired of hearing Obama's name before after tonight they will be. I am...

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    Heh (5.00 / 4) (#4)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:51:21 PM EST
    This is wild, I switched to C-SPAN to get the CNN talking heads off my screen, and this guy was talking.  I was like, "Is this really live?"  It's like he's in a whole different building, speaking to an empty room.

    Well, who knows.  Maybe this guy will end up as Governor of Illinois, after all the other Democrats get indicted.

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    Candi Schmieder appears to (none / 0) (#6)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:53:23 PM EST
    be under sedation.

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    I almost (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by ccpup on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:54:11 PM EST
    wish I was.

    (sigh)

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    Me too (none / 0) (#9)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:54:37 PM EST
    I bet her neighbors love her when she goes door to door.

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    I want to distill the words (none / 0) (#12)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:55:34 PM EST
    they want us to walk away:

    1.  real change.
    2.  Hope.  

    What a surprise.

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    Well (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:57:26 PM EST
    on behalf of all the "regular folks" out there, I have to say that I am pretty sympathetic when regular folks can't deliver a speech with quite the cadence of professional politicians.  I mean, she was no less inspiring than John Kerry.

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    well said (none / 0) (#30)
    by coigue on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:04:33 PM EST
    I agree (none / 0) (#36)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:06:01 PM EST
    I guess I just expected more 'zeal' because of 'The One' and all.

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    Have you never watched a convention before? (none / 0) (#3)
    by Addison on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:50:44 PM EST
    They need to give the talking heads time to discuss the moment in order to give it a "journalistic reality."

    If Michelle had come right on the Ted Kennedy moment would've been diminished. Probably, though this is speculative, people would've complained about the Obama's stepping all over history.

    Regardless, the scheduling is for the media, not for the people in the hall.

    You must have some motive for not seeing this scheduling as a necessity, as it's obvious beyond words.

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    Could you be (5.00 / 8) (#7)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:53:50 PM EST
    anymore patronizing? I have been watching conventions for years and I can assure you this one is particularly boring. Even CNN has mentioned it. Gergen was shocked that they have had so very little for the television audience.

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    Ok... (5.00 / 0) (#16)
    by Addison on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:57:32 PM EST
    (1) It's the first night, it's not supposed to be especially spectacular.

    (2) Yes, it's been a bit boring, up until Kennedy. I agree.

    However,

    (3) I plainly wasn't replying to a comment that talking about how boring the convention was. I was replying to a comment about who they followed Kennedy with.

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    Well (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:01:56 PM EST
    You were pretty harsh in suggesting that the commentor must have a hidden agenda, just because they reacted to the convention scheduling like a real person would, as opposed to looking at it through the eyes of a media-savvy political observer.

    You could have just explained your view of the convention planning and it would have sounded a lot less jerky, in my opinion.

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    I disagree (5.00 / 3) (#50)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:09:28 PM EST
    It should have been a good kickoff night.

    It was a snorefest. No themes were developed.

    Kennedy was fine for nostalgia.

    But where was the red meat?

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    Maybe Obama is a Vegetarian? (5.00 / 4) (#60)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:11:22 PM EST
    Just relax and enjoy the dancing... (5.00 / 2) (#68)
    by lilburro on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:13:22 PM EST
    It could've been better... (none / 0) (#88)
    by Addison on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:17:53 PM EST
    ...again, I agree that it's been mostly boring and I was mainly responding to the idea that it was a mistake to follow Kennedy with a nobody. It wasn't. It was smart.

    To then follow that nobody, after the media had taken their pontification and advertising breaks, with Leach was a huge misstep. That was boringness without a larger purpose.

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    It was a crappy night (5.00 / 2) (#127)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:33:54 PM EST
    A wasted night.

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    ANY night in which the lead off speaker (5.00 / 6) (#157)
    by litigatormom on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:44:47 PM EST
    is Nancy Pelosi is a wasted night.

    What we need here is an underage Chinese gymnast to liven things up.

    P.S. My husband is loving Michelle's speech.

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    the red meat? (none / 0) (#147)
    by dws3665 on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:41:47 PM EST
    Maybe all the references to God were the equivalent of saying grace before a meal is served?

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    Well, now the 10:00 hour has started. (none / 0) (#62)
    by Iphie on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:12:00 PM EST
    And this guy is a politician (should know how to give a speech) and he is sucking whatever energy was left over from Kennedy right out of the room. This is bad -- I wonder if Kennedy's appearance pushed this guy into primetime -- I can't imagine that this was planned.


    Oh, wait -- is he supposed to be the answer to Lieberman's appearance at the RNC? I suppose as far as speaking styles go they aren't all that dissimilar.

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    What do you think of Mr. del Valle's (none / 0) (#5)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:51:43 PM EST
    speech?

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    I didn't see it because... (none / 0) (#11)
    by Addison on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:55:18 PM EST
    ...like most of America I was watching cable news coverage and not the raw feed.

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    I assure you (none / 0) (#57)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:10:37 PM EST
    Most of America was NOT watching the cable news coverage.

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    Right, right... (none / 0) (#77)
    by Addison on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:15:02 PM EST
    ...among people watching the convention coverage. I should've been more clear.

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    MO sent an email and said to tune in 10:30 (none / 0) (#10)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:55:07 PM EST
    Friend --
    My mom, the girls, and I left home in Chicago and got to Denver yesterday. What a beautiful city!
    The convention started this morning, and everyone here is getting ready for the big week.
    All the work you've done is at the heart of what's happening here, and our team filmed a short video to give you a look behind the scenes at the convention center.
    Take a minute to check out the video and share it with your friends:

    ***
    This week, folks from across the country will get to know Barack and our family a little better. Tonight I'm giving a speech at the convention, and I'm planning to share a few stories about the Barack I know -- the husband, the father, and the man who shares my dreams for our girls, for this country, and for our future.
    Before my speech, we're also going to show a video introducing our family to families across the country. Make sure to turn on your TV at 10:30 p.m. EDT (8:30 p.m. MDT) to see it, or you can watch it at www.BarackObama.com.
    This is such an important moment, and I hope you'll join me by tuning into the convention tonight and all week long.
    Thanks,
    Michelle

    By 10:30, most of the TV (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by Anne on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:07:20 PM EST
    audience will be in a stupor, or sound asleep dreaming of giant plasma screens with 20 foot-high John Kerry heads, twitching over the sound of the just-outside-of-town bar band playing really bad music.

    I have to wonder how many in the convention center are really screaming, "Please! Make it stoooop!"

    I'm headed for a shower and then a book.

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    Lord...I am falling (none / 0) (#55)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:10:21 PM EST
    asleep at my desk. Guh.

    Heading out for a smoke and to walk the dog. I hope to miss the Obama video and make it back in time for MO's speach.

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    If people are tuning in (none / 0) (#76)
    by ccpup on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:15:02 PM EST
    to get a sense of Obama -- because maybe they're just now paying attention to the Election and want to see what all the hoopla about this Obama guy is? --, this night is sure to underwhelm.

    I suspect the fall in the Polls he'll receive because of his choice of Biden will be offset by the slight bounce he gets post-Convention.  

    So, in other words, it'll be a wash and not the position of strength the Dems need going into September.

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    A real community organizer!! (none / 0) (#13)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:56:25 PM EST
    perhaps we can finally know what the h*ll it is.

    This guy isn't shedding much light (none / 0) (#18)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:57:59 PM EST
    on it.  

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    Nope.... (none / 0) (#19)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:57:59 PM EST
    we still don't know what they do. We only know that they get paid $10,000.00 a year to do it and if it breaks they stay up all night and fix it.

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    Why did I immed. think of cocaine? (1.00 / 1) (#21)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:58:59 PM EST
    $10,000 per yer? (none / 0) (#14)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 08:57:01 PM EST
    and now they whine about paying that for their kids lessons. Oh my.

    Tom Harkin ignored by CNN (none / 0) (#22)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:01:06 PM EST


    Sorry, never mind (none / 0) (#24)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:01:51 PM EST
    He's introducing the (shhhh) Republican.

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    Did the Republicans strip him of (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:04:40 PM EST
    his credentials?

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    Well, he lost in '06, the lore goes, (none / 0) (#39)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:06:37 PM EST
    because he wouldn't let the Social Cons gay bait and they deserted him.

    He was a genuine moderate Republican.

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    Snort... (none / 0) (#28)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:02:52 PM EST
    I can see now why (none / 0) (#23)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:01:16 PM EST
    David Gergen and the rest of the heads on CNN said that this night was poorly organized and "liberal heavy" for mass consumption in middle america.

    lol!~ thanks for watching CNN for me :) (none / 0) (#26)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:02:29 PM EST
    No problem.... (none / 0) (#33)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:04:53 PM EST
    but I can't stay with it for long. I have to keep taking smoke breaks and getting a shot of vodka. Good thing I'm not doing a shot for every time someone says Obama. Yikes.

    But I should also tell you that Gergen and Carville, but especially Gergen, were particularly upset that Carter seemed not to be offered the opportunity to speak, he felt, because his thoughts on Isreal were too controversial.

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    Dang, I'd love to hear Carville's remarks (none / 0) (#51)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:09:32 PM EST
    but I just can't go there.

    I'm sipping wine and starting on reorganizing the apt. Therapeutic :) Except when the Dal tries to help, lol!~

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    I'll let you know when Carville is worth (5.00 / 3) (#66)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:12:57 PM EST
    tuning into. You'll always be able to find him on youtube.

    He is in rare form today though. Did you see him earlier today just after the convention began when he totally lost it? Twitching in his chair and almost spitting fire before Wolf let him dress Glorida Borger and the other bobble head down? He also got in a really good insult to Cafferty about an hour ago.

    He said if Hillary were to do this year what Kennedy did in 1980 that Jack Cafferty would have to be doused with something. LMAO

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    I've been avoiding CNN in general (none / 0) (#94)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:19:07 PM EST
    I've checked in a few times lately, but they make me run away quickly!

    Hope lots of Carville ends up on YouTube. The dude just cracks me up. He's got a quick wit whether he means to or not, lol!~

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    Must be something in the air. (none / 0) (#93)
    by Iphie on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:18:33 PM EST
    Reorganizing the apartment is my project for the week. Haven't started in with the wine yet.

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    Wine makes it more fun and (none / 0) (#99)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:20:20 PM EST
    keeps the edge away from the stupidity of this convention {grin}

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    Why is Sen. Lieberman so dissed (none / 0) (#31)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:04:35 PM EST
    for the possibility he may speak at the RNC?

    they can have him (5.00 / 3) (#35)
    by bjorn on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:05:44 PM EST
    because we can't stand him. (5.00 / 5) (#46)
    by Lil on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:07:42 PM EST
    What Lil said (none / 0) (#82)
    by rdandrea on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:15:53 PM EST
    n/t

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    That's not all he's done. (5.00 / 1) (#91)
    by coigue on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:18:21 PM EST
    He left the Democratic party after losing the primary.

    Where I am from, that's called being a spoiled sport.

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    Because he's a current... (none / 0) (#42)
    by Addison on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:07:03 PM EST
    ...and not former legislator, perhaps?

    And a lying jerk who wants the "tough guys" to like him?

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    Wow, does Jim Leach (none / 0) (#34)
    by BrianJ on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:05:28 PM EST
    Sound like he wears on Onion On His Belt (tm).

    Driving me crazy... (none / 0) (#49)
    by coigue on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:09:12 PM EST
    I can't remember what this reference is from.

    little help?

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    From the Simpsons (5.00 / 3) (#58)
    by BrianJ on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:10:57 PM EST
    Episode "Last Exit To Springfield":

    Grandpa Simpson:  "We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time..."

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    Remember now? (5.00 / 4) (#61)
    by Addison on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:11:35 PM EST
    Mr. Burns: So do you have a way to get rid of the protesters?

    Grandpa: One way to get rid of them is to tell 'em stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time we went over to Shelbyville during the war, I wore an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn't get those white ones, you could only get those big yellow ones. Now where was I? Oh yeah, the important thing was I was wearing an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time, you couldn't get those... (trails off)



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    Wait a minute... (5.00 / 2) (#70)
    by Addison on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:13:30 PM EST
    ...I don't think that's the full, actual quote. Here:

    We can't bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell them stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I took the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. Give me five bees for a quarter you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get were those big yellow ones...


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    Grandpa Simpson (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by ColumbiaDuck on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:12:43 PM EST
    "Which was the style at the time..."

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    He's giving a history lesson! (none / 0) (#37)
    by Maria Garcia on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:06:02 PM EST


    It's a good thing he's a Republican. Otherwise, (none / 0) (#45)
    by Teresa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:07:39 PM EST
    he would never be given a speaking slot. This is a waste.

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    Firner Rep. Leach: good educational (none / 0) (#40)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:06:46 PM EST
    background, obviously.  Yeah, Iowa.

    Forgive another question (none / 0) (#41)
    by Lil on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:06:57 PM EST
    What did Ted Kennedy pledge that he will be "there when we begin the... (and then I can't make out what he is saying). BTW, CBS did a good job covering the Kennedy section in 45 seconds. It made it look positve and dramatic.

    Cliff notes version (none / 0) (#59)
    by justinboston2008 on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:11:10 PM EST
    He pledged to be there when Obama takes office and we can begin to repair the country.

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    Where's Jeralyn? (none / 0) (#48)
    by JavaCityPal on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:08:44 PM EST
    Isn't she blogging for TalkLeft on the convention?


    Off somewhere listening to (none / 0) (#63)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:12:03 PM EST
    HIllary Clinton speak.  

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    OT, I know (none / 0) (#72)
    by Lil on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:14:05 PM EST
    but CBS reporting arrests of possible assisns of Obam. Well, that should jazz up Obama's numbers a bit. People actually arrested for wanting to kill him...

    Oh my God, McCaskill's grandmother was (none / 0) (#73)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:14:20 PM EST
    a single mom too!

    And the hits just keep on comin' . . . (none / 0) (#80)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:15:40 PM EST


    Ugh Claire...keep talking pundits, please. (none / 0) (#84)
    by Maria Garcia on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:16:18 PM EST


    Best day today (5.00 / 3) (#87)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:17:46 PM EST
    Clair sent an email...and I got to unsubscribe.  

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    Ahhhhhhh (none / 0) (#85)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:16:57 PM EST
    everything, everything we all said is wrong about this campaign, they are doing it.  

    Which network is Carville on? (none / 0) (#90)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:18:13 PM EST
    I need some entertainment.

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    cnn (none / 0) (#97)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:19:39 PM EST
    CNN (none / 0) (#98)
    by Maria Garcia on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:20:02 PM EST
    Soooooooooo boring (none / 0) (#89)
    by Dr Molly on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:17:58 PM EST
    I am trying to stay awake for Michelle, but this is really brutal.

    So is Michelle the nominee? Do they... (none / 0) (#106)
    by Maria Garcia on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:25:02 PM EST
    ...usually do this about the wives?

    Wives (none / 0) (#118)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:30:30 PM EST
    usually speak but they don't get prime time spots like Michelle Obama iirc. I don't understand why they did this.

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    They felt the need to introduce them (5.00 / 3) (#130)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:34:47 PM EST
    yet again. Apparently, people still don't know them or they aren't polling well so they need to adjust their spin to make them more appealing.

    Too bad her brother said crap about Hillary. I'm not listening.

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    Apparently not (none / 0) (#152)
    by waldenpond on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:43:54 PM EST
    Teebee had that she is the first to get a major role at a convention.  Just have to wait and see how much time she gets and how that compares to other spouses.

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    Chicago team (none / 0) (#109)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:25:24 PM EST
    not ready for prime time.  

    NEtworks ignoring (none / 0) (#110)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:26:13 PM EST
    Michell intro video, except for ABC.

    CNN has it (none / 0) (#112)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:26:50 PM EST
    What is the point of pushing biography (none / 0) (#120)
    by lilburro on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:31:03 PM EST
    if no one will watch you do it?  Maybe Barack Obama will get more attention.

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    Makes me want to dig out my copy (none / 0) (#124)
    by americanincanada on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:32:51 PM EST
    of 'The Man from Hope.'

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    I thought it was really good (none / 0) (#123)
    by bjorn on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:31:20 PM EST
    Sure (none / 0) (#131)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:35:07 PM EST
    But there is a reason you hold these things for the network hour - so they get aired on the networks.

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    Opening the MO video (none / 0) (#113)
    by Iphie on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:27:26 PM EST
    with her mother narrating is a very good choice. Calling her "my baby" humanizes her and softens the image.

    that was a touching (none / 0) (#125)
    by pennypacker on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:33:08 PM EST
    video.

    Big Brother is boring, they should have (none / 0) (#126)
    by bjorn on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:33:27 PM EST
    gone right to Michelle after that video

    He's OK (5.00 / 1) (#133)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:35:32 PM EST
    Better than Jim Leach, anyway.

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    agreed (none / 0) (#134)
    by Dr Molly on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:35:43 PM EST
    Mom video - great. Brother - boring and trite.

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    Michelle, (none / 0) (#151)
    by lilburro on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:43:22 PM EST
    well, I'm a little bored.  

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    Hey, he said Barack Obama, not (none / 0) (#135)
    by Teresa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:36:15 PM EST
    BarackObama. Most people say it as one word.

    She's on now (none / 0) (#138)
    by MichaelGale on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:37:54 PM EST
    She looks good; nice outfit

    Those long fingernails don't (none / 0) (#153)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:44:06 PM EST
    send a good image.  

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    ooops, ON NBC (none / 0) (#139)
    by Desired User Name on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:39:07 PM EST
    The Assassination Attempt was mentioned on NBC.
    So sorry, that got cut out of "subject" heading because it was over 50characters...pfffft.

    I'll be googling for more data.

    I wish they wouldn't (none / 0) (#140)
    by MichaelGale on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:39:33 PM EST
    use that teleprompter as much as they do.

    She's very good so far. (none / 0) (#141)
    by Teresa on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:39:33 PM EST


    I disagree (none / 0) (#158)
    by Marvin42 on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:45:10 PM EST
    I think the visuals are as good as they have done before (like the end of TX primary), and she is not coming across authentic to me. She sounds like she is nervous and is reading a script.

    I think most people react emotionally and if she warms up and is herself she will probably connect a lot more.

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    I channel surf... (none / 0) (#155)
    by Jjc2008 on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:44:32 PM EST
    I want to hear it but then I get bored...angry...frustrated...

    I do like Michelle Obama's dress...the color looks good on her.  I know...shallow.  But that's where I am right now.

    I think she does better when she is just talking (none / 0) (#156)
    by bjorn on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:44:39 PM EST
    and not reading, but it is not bad.

    Well the supporters are finally inspired.... (none / 0) (#162)
    by Maria Garcia on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:46:04 PM EST
    ...this is what they wanted to hear. But now she's talking a little too fast. She needs to slow down.

    When she mentioned Hillary (5.00 / 2) (#169)
    by lilburro on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:48:58 PM EST
    the mics sounded overwhelmed by the noise.  Tomorrow is going to be a day like no other...

    Biden was cute too.  It was a good passage.

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    She is a much better speaker than (none / 0) (#165)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:47:23 PM EST
    this.  Her solo campaign event in NH was much, much stronger.  Who dumber her down?

    She's dumbed down to soften (5.00 / 1) (#201)
    by zfran on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:20:29 PM EST
    her image, to get her back to where Candy Crowley says she was at the very beginning of his campaign. I did not see most of her speech, but one station said funny how she didn't even mention that both she and Barack attended Harvard.
    I did think she looked nice, tho'.

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    and single mothers (none / 0) (#170)
    by MichaelGale on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:50:10 PM EST
     Obama was raised by a single mother.

    That comment is coming up (none / 0) (#180)
    by JavaCityPal on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:01:58 PM EST
    more and more instead of less and less.

    The way Michelle phrased it tonight sounded like he was born to an 18 year old single mother.

    It is exaggerated, and it doesn't really appear to the average outsider as enough to be a major contributor to shaping him.


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    What's the fixed expression on her mom's face? (none / 0) (#171)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:50:53 PM EST
    I'd say disapproving and dour.

    Michelle is horrible... (none / 0) (#172)
    by Exeter on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:51:01 PM EST
    I personally have always liked her, but she is wayyyy to rough around the edges to be showcased in this way.  Really bad idea.      

    Ummm. She was ok. (none / 0) (#175)
    by LatinoVoter on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 10:36:08 PM EST
    This is not the Michelle I know. She sounded like she was introducing Barack to get a lifetime achievement award at the Daytime Emmys

    Good delivery (none / 0) (#196)
    by befuddledvoter on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:15:19 PM EST
    She comes off well!  I liked it but that is tempered by the fact that I know the real story line of Obama.  Not so poor; not so underprivileged; did not work his way through school etc.  Hmmmm.  While she did mention Hillary and the 18 million cracks in that glass ceiling,  she rushed through that sentence and barely took a breath. I think that line made her noticeably uncomfortable.  In all though, she is a very good speaker and it seemed authentic.  

    She began speaking quickly to cut off the cheers (none / 0) (#203)
    by jawbone on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:21:36 PM EST
    for Hillary.  The crowd was clearly showing enthusiasm at that point--but I felt Mrs. Obama wanted to make sure it didn't build.

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    Good speech, although I didn't (none / 0) (#197)
    by Radix on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:15:25 PM EST
    particularly care for her delivery.

    Other than BHO (none / 0) (#211)
    by Mauka Makana on Tue Aug 26, 2008 at 01:23:55 AM EST
    Other than BHO, Michelle O is more probable than Hillary R. C. in 2012... but in  Life there IS such a precarious set of moments who, but some gawde, can ever know what comes?

    her dress looked cheap (none / 0) (#212)
    by Bornagaindem on Tue Aug 26, 2008 at 09:00:21 AM EST
    Her dress looked cheap and not first lady chic. My husband looked at Teresa Kerry and said she will make John Kerry lose. Who in the world is choosing her clothes? And this is supposed to be the flawless campaign machine that defeated Hillary?