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McCain May Give Acceptance Speech From Gulf

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:24:23 PM EST
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John McCain, according to a scrawl on the bottom of the MSNBC tv screen, may not go to Minneapolis-St. Paul at all and give his acceptance speech instead from the Gulf. [Hat tip Scribe.}

Could he be any more transparent? What's he running for, Panderer-in Chief?

CBS says it's an attempt by the party to "redeem" itself on the competence issue.

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    Redeeming themselves on the competence (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by standingup on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:26:41 PM EST
    issue involves showing the capacity to handle the crisis at hand without politicizing it for their own benefit.

    Don't worry, the MSM will ensure that (none / 0) (#46)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:25:54 PM EST
    McCain and the GOP look uber-competent and compassionate in their handling of Gustav.

    Dems neglected the climate issue throughout the campaign. And now they can't raise any criticism of the relief effort without being portrayed as the ones who are engaging in craven politicking.

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    Needs to change his slogan to (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by Molly Bloom on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:28:33 PM EST
    Putting McCain first!

    That's really offensive (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by andgarden on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:31:26 PM EST


    Andgarden, your response is to the comment (none / 0) (#49)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:30:31 PM EST
    that precedes mine right?

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    Could we wait for confirmation that it's what (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by Valhalla on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:31:43 PM EST
    he IS doing?

    I mean, it's msnbc, for cryin' out loud, and even they aren't reporting that he intends to.

    I might hop a plane tonight to India (I've always wanted to see India), but I probably will not.

    Can they be that stupid? (5.00 / 0) (#8)
    by kenosharick on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:31:52 PM EST
    Everyone would see through it.

    Maybe McCain will put on a big yellow slicker (5.00 / 0) (#12)
    by andgarden on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:38:48 PM EST


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    All politicians appearing on TV (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by oculus on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:43:11 PM EST
    in disaster relief areas is good for LL Bean sales.  Maybe there is a nefarious connection?

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    Can MSNBC be that stupid? (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Bluesage on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:53:57 PM EST
    Of course they can.  It is MSNBC.  

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    But it's a trap!!! (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by Dadler on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:33:29 PM EST
    Just like Palin, and we can't possibly talk about it.  Ahem.  Seriously, of course he's pandering (just like picking Palin was pandering), but you think the MSM is going to call him on it?  They'll talk about how it's an act that sets him completely apart from Dubya.  Or if they seem dubious, it will be a passing pain only mentioned for the briefest moments.

    McCain is hardly the only panderer in (4.40 / 5) (#10)
    by PssttCmere08 on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:35:36 PM EST
    this election cycle.

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    All politicians pander ... (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:57:04 PM EST
    I think virtually by definition.

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    No, because the thinking that the cake (5.00 / 4) (#11)
    by Valhalla on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:36:10 PM EST
    picture proves Bush' incompetence during Katrina is ridiculous.

    It's a 2-second shot of cake on a tarmac.

    The proof of Bush' criminal-level incompetence on Katrina is the total fubar he made of the entire disaster.

    Proof of McCain's connection to it would be...something that proves McCain is connected to it.

    Unless you are seriously arguing that the residents of NOLA would have been fine but for McCain's birthday cake.

    These sorts of things demostrate how badly Democrats perform the 'gotcha game'.  That houses 'scandal' really ruined McCain in the polls, didn't it?

    the Dems also circulate disinformation - (3.25 / 4) (#20)
    by Josey on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:47:28 PM EST
    1. regarding McCain's "be in Iraq for 100 years" -
    2. and using McCain's JOKE at the Saddleback Forum implying $5M was not considered rich.

    Many can see through Obama's deceptions.


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    Those are both true (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by AF on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:01:01 PM EST
    Here's the 100 year line -- he said a permanent base a la South Korea for 100 years would be fine with him as long as Americans aren't being killed.  Obama doesn't want a permanent base.  This is a legitimate difference.

    Here's the 5 million line.  It wasn't a joke; he tried to pass it off as a joke after people laughed at him.

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    did the media call Obama on his lie? (none / 0) (#63)
    by Josey on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 08:09:30 PM EST
    NO!

    Columbia Journalism Review - April 2008
    http://tinyurl.com/28f5r6

    Ever since John McCain said at a town hall meeting in January that he could see U.S. troops staying in Iraq for a hundred years, the Democrats have been trying to use the quote to paint the Arizona senator as a dangerous warmonger. And lately, Barack Obama in particular has stepped up his attacks on McCain's "100 years" notion.

    But in doing so, Obama is seriously misleading voters--if not outright lying to them--about exactly what McCain said. And some in the press are failing to call him on it.

    Here's McCain's full quote, in context, from back in January:
    Questioner: President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for fifty years...
    McCain: Maybe a hundred. Make it one hundred. We've been in South Korea, we've been in Japan for sixty years. We've been in South Korea for fifty years or so. That'd be fine with me as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. Then it's fine with me. I would hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day.

    It's clear from this that McCain isn't saying he'd support continuing the war for one hundred years, only that it might be necessary to keep troops there that long. That's a very different thing. As he says, we've had troops in South Korea for over fifty years, but few people think that means we're still fighting the Korean War.

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    McCain (3.60 / 5) (#35)
    by parttime on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:03:20 PM EST
    McCain also didn't say "Fundamentals of our economy is strong". He added after that the indicators showing economy strong does not matter for workers who lose their jobs.

    He also disowned his economic advisor who said Americans are whiners and he said he strongly disagrees.

    $5 million for being rich was just a joke he made.

    And nobody cares how many homes politicians have. Obama will probably have as many homes when he gets to be McCain's age.

    These I think are silly attacks, very Axelrovian (just like what he did to Hillary). In a year democrats have so many advantages, do we really need to spread lies to win?

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    Did he not say it or not mean it? (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by AF on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:05:41 PM EST
    McCain also didn't say "Fundamentals of our economy is strong". He added after that the indicators showing economy strong does not matter for workers who lose their jobs.

    He added something after what he didn't say?  Get your story straight.  Sheesh.

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    But they're funny (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:11:11 PM EST
    I also don't think Obama believes there are 60 states.  But it was funny that he said it.

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    it's Obama's new "gotcha politics" (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by Josey on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:22:55 PM EST
    Even if McCain is just joking, circulate it as a serious remark and omit the entirety of his remarks.
    And Dems accuse Repubs of truthiness.
    sigh


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    By the way (2.00 / 1) (#38)
    by AF on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:10:34 PM EST
    I notice you refer to the democrats as "we."  Based on your comment I find it hard to believe you are really a democrat.

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    Ah, I was wondering when exactly (5.00 / 3) (#54)
    by Dr Molly on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 04:34:21 PM EST
    the McCarthyism was going to come back to TalkLeft after the last few days. So refreshing.

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    Please (none / 0) (#71)
    by AF on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 11:20:40 PM EST
    If "parttime" voted for John Kerry in 2004 I'm Barack Obama.

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    It's not being a Republican I object to (none / 0) (#72)
    by AF on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 11:23:52 PM EST
    It's lying about it.

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    No, because (none / 0) (#57)
    by standingup on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 04:52:54 PM EST
    Katrina awakened the public not just to the disaster and incompetency of George Bush but also of the Republican party's idea of governing.  

    No one is suggesting something as ridiculous that the residents of NOLA would have been fine had Bush been working with FEMA and the state of Louisiana.  But you seem to have forgotten that most of the deaths during Katrina were related to the flooding from the levee break following the hurricane.  So yes, it is quite possible that time wasted in advance of the direct hit, could have been used for a more effective and thorough evacuation of people which could possibly have saved some lives.  No one knows how many lives but the warnings were there yet far to many people were taking them seriously as we know from the photo on the tarmac.  

    Bush sure as heck didn't waste any time or effort in 2004 when hurricanes were about to hit Florida.  The people of Florida had his full attention and the government response was much different when it was his election on the line.  Unfortunately Katrina struck in an off year so they didn't see the political ramifications of what was about to happen.  

    Gotcha politics?  I disagree.  It is reminding the people that George Bush, his administration and senior Republicans like John McCain had other things on their mind when they should have been helping the people in NOLA.

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    By your own argument (none / 0) (#61)
    by Valhalla on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 06:39:22 PM EST
    The cake picture had nothing to do with Bush's failure, as it was taken during the disaster.

    The failure to fund and provide the proper infrastructure for NO to survive Katrina was longstanding and complete before Katrina hit.  At the cake point, nothing could have seriously helped ameliorate the damage.

    Pushing the photo is just an exploit, meant to play on people's visceral feelings.  It has nothing to do with Bush' criminal incompetence, on Katrina or anything else.  It's the flip of a pander.  It's not news, it's not an argument, and it's not evidence.

    By all means, lets discuss Bush's colossal failure as a president, as a policymaker, as...just about every facet of governing I can name.  And if there's evidence tying McCain to the Katrina failure, let's hear it.  But a cake isn't it.

    And before you roundup the accusations that I must be a Republican, I'm not.  But I do favor a somewhat higher level of political discourse than is common in the infotainmentsphere, and this cake picture doesn't qualify.  Even if TL is the only place on earth where a higher level pertains.

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    I take your point (none / 0) (#65)
    by jar137 on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 08:52:44 PM EST
    but I fear the level of political discourse is not likely to rise in the foreseeable future (unless, perhaps, the fairness doctrine is reinstated).  Thus, we have to play the hand we're dealt, and if the photo links McCain to Bush/republican negligence/Katrina, so be it.  McCain can denounce it if he likes.  This is no different from how the republicans play.  

    If one accepts the premise that this is how the republicans campaign, why shouldn't the Democrats do the same?

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    The cake picture (none / 0) (#58)
    by jar137 on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 05:14:24 PM EST
    doesn't prove Bush's incompetence; the memories of his inaction do that well enough.  There is no argument that Bush was not incompetent, if not derelict in its handling of Katrina.  The cake picture is tasteless in light of what was going on at the time and it connects McCain to Bush and Katrina.  Furthermore, not every hit has to be a death blow.  I would argue that the house issue had an effect (it is known to the entire nation at this point), as could the birthday cake picture.  Death by a thousand cuts is equally fatal as a death blow.

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    McCain actually was creeping up in the (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by Valhalla on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 06:25:51 PM EST
    polls after/during 'Housegate', so I don't think it was all that effective a hit.

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    I don't think it needs to be (none / 0) (#66)
    by jar137 on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 09:00:47 PM EST
    a direct hit (ie, resulting in a change in the polls) for it to have an effect over the long term.  That's the nature of the thousand cuts.  I wouldn't expect it to be reflected in the polls.  But, the how many homes? theme is now part of the public dialogue of this campaign and it puts McCain in a negative light.  I wouldn't necessarily expect

    I will confess that I tend not to follow the daily tracking polls closely or put much store in them, as I find them tedious and a bit like reading tea leaves.  I'm not saying public polls don't serve a purpose, but I think their import is frequently overstated.

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    I'm all for them telethoning (5.00 / 0) (#13)
    by davnee on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:38:54 PM EST
    and packaging care packages from the convention.  That's a fair and measured and helpful response to the crisis, and if it pays off for the  R's so be it.  And I wouldn't even mind if McCain stopped in the region on his way to the convention, but giving his speech from there is just tacky.  

    Again, the Dems handed this (none / 0) (#51)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:51:30 PM EST
    "redemption" to the GOP on a silver platter.

    I actually thought the Dems could win the election on the issue of the climate crisis as it relates to both the economy and national security.

    i.e. A firm commitment to renewable energy addresses the failing economy by creating new green jobs; and it increases national security by reducing dependence on foreign oil.

    Of course, Hillary made that commitment, but Obama and the Democratic Party don't want to sign on to this WINNING issue. Why can't we compel them to do the right thing?

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    is this really Jeralyn? (5.00 / 4) (#14)
    by sarahfdavis on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:41:20 PM EST
    This seems so unlike you....grabbing at a story that we could just as easily make about Obama and then finishing it up with a shallow snark. What happened?

    How about this? McCain campaign (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by oculus on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:41:33 PM EST
    leaks it may stage acceptance speeches from Gulf Coast area.  But doesn't.  But, meanwhile, the Dems. go nuts.

    lol....and obama shows up there too?? (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by PssttCmere08 on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:44:04 PM EST


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    That (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:45:27 PM EST
    wouldn't surprise me. He's been doing nothing but baiting the Obama campaign for days. Once they fell for it, the second time they didn't.

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    Fish in a barrell, (none / 0) (#67)
    by SueBonnetSue on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 09:02:55 PM EST
    That's what we've become.  McCain's campaign baits us, and we fall for it, over and over.  sigh................

    Why are all of our democrat blogs, and the MSM, talking only about McCain and Palin?  What ever happened to OUR candidates?  Why aren't they getting any coverage?  It's been three straight days of nothing but McCain and Palin.  Where are Obama and Biden?  McCain's sounding all Presidential and our guys are where?  Doing what?  

    This is starting to get scary.  We can't let McCain and Palin dominate the news day after day as they have for the last several days.  

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    Maybe not such a bad stratergy (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Saul on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:45:54 PM EST
    I predicted McCain would do something like this.  Here is what I thought he might do.

      If McCain is smart he will postpone the convention because of Gustave.  That prevents Bush from appearing which I thought would be bad for MaCain  and it shows Bush as the concerned president of the Gusatve people  who gave up going to the convention since the people came first.  Then McCain and Palin physically go to New Orleans and Mississippi  getting their hands dirty trying to help those people.  Then he goes back to start the convention giving his image and Palin's image a boost.  

    If he is asked why did you go down there and not at the convention?

        He can say

       

    We care about the people first and therefore we postponed our party in Minnesota.
     

    If he is asked where was Obama.

      His reply could be

    That's a good question where was Obama?
    Who's fooled by that? (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Pegasus on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:50:38 PM EST
    It's as transparent as could be.  It's capitalizing on a natural disaster for political gain, and will be seen as such.

    The John McCain campaign's new slogan: Hoping For Disaster.

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    Plenty of voters will be fooled by that (5.00 / 0) (#24)
    by Saul on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:54:10 PM EST
    believe me.  He will get votes if he does this.  The objective of any election is to get the votes Right way, crooked way any way. Katrina was a anvil for Bush maybe Gustave will be a life vest for McCain

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    I very much doubt it. (1.00 / 0) (#28)
    by Pegasus on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:00:13 PM EST
    It would be too easily spun as a "Mission Accomplished" moment.  Actually, saying that wouldn't even be spin.  It'd be true.

    I hope McCain goes ahead and does it, truth be told.

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    Be careful what you wish for. (none / 0) (#39)
    by Saul on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:10:55 PM EST


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    I think we should hold our powder ... (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:53:36 PM EST
    on this issue.  Attacking someone for something they haven't yet done, and may NOT do, just seems silly.

    A case of the tail wagging the dog, if ever there was one.

    MSNBC is NO LONGER reporting that (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by Valhalla on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:56:49 PM EST
    McCain will accept the nomination from the Gulf.

    It's not on the front page of their site, it's not in the main article about both campaigns reaction to the hurricane, and it's not scrolling across the screen anymore.

    Yahoo News is reporting that McCain will accept the nomination in Minnesota, and that the campaign has rejected a satellite acceptance from the Gulf.

    The pics of Louisiana are very scary.

    Yeah, looks like they just floated that to ... (none / 0) (#30)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:00:33 PM EST
    get people to waste time talking about it.

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    Got us, eh. (5.00 / 2) (#42)
    by oculus on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:12:19 PM EST


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    Seems like they did (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:16:59 PM EST


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    Suspected it was false (none / 0) (#37)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:07:11 PM EST
    It would be way too monumentally stupid.


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    Snark all you want (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by progressiveinvolvement on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:00:32 PM EST
    but it's good politics.  McCain is running circles around the Obama campaign right now.

    It's terrible politics, and it looks like (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by Pegasus on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:02:06 PM EST
    they realized that when their trial balloon went down in flames.  So back to M-SP.

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    Yup, McCain coverage, wall to wall (none / 0) (#69)
    by SueBonnetSue on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 09:07:15 PM EST
    Of course that's good for his campaign.  McCain is doing stuff regarding the hurricanes and we don't hear anything about Obama.  What's up with that?  

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    it's all about the Republicans (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Josey on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:01:14 PM EST
    downplaying worshipping their convention - contrasted with Obama's Hollywood spectacle and unnecessary oppulence during his acceptance speech.
    iow - the Repubs are signaling they don't need all the glitter and glow to be significant and viable. Obama may have his zillion followers, but the Repubs have humility. I believe that's what they're trying to project.
    And they get a 2-fer because McCain is blowing up the Bush/Repub Party and redirecting the party in many ways.
    Just choosing a VP candidate without a perfect daughter is a biggie especially with Repubs focus on abstinence-only education. McCain doesn't seem to want to play the "super moral" card that Repubs have played for the past 2-3 decades to win elections.

    according to Bloomberg (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by nycstray on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:12:13 PM EST
    he's in ohio helping with relief packages and not giving his speech anywhere but St Paul

    And Where is our guy? (none / 0) (#68)
    by SueBonnetSue on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 09:05:14 PM EST
    And what's he doing?  this constant coverage of McCain and Palin, is getting to be too much.  How the heck did this happen?  

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    If McCain makes the GOP look good (5.00 / 2) (#43)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:15:03 PM EST
    in the face of Gustav, the fault lies entirely with the Democratic Party.

    With the exception of Al Gore's speech, the Democratic Primary and the Convention entirely failed to address the vast issue of global warming

    Now, the GOP is poised to effectively shift the focus onto RELIEF efforts and away from the larger issue of the CAUSES and CURTAILMENT of the climate crisis. I fear it is too late for Obama to play catch-up, on either front, even if he tries.

    Looking back, not a SINGLE question was asked about the climate crisis during the Democratic Primary Debates. This was no doubt influenced by the fact that the coal industry sponsored the Dem debates; complete with airing treacly coal ads during commercial breaks.

    The situation is even more dismal in view of Obama's acceptance speech wherein he cited so-called 'CLEAN' COAL as one of his top three solutions to reducing dependence on foreign oil. Natural gas was first and nuclear power was third. (The would-be next POTUS represents IL, the top nuclear energy supplier in the US.) Fuel efficiency was fourth; and RENEWABLE ENERGY, the only real solution to the problem was last on Obama's list.

    The GE coincides with hurricane season and the Democrats have already lost all moral authority on this issue.

    First Read - Aug 29 (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by Josey on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:26:48 PM EST
    Palin praised Obama's energy plan on Aug. 8 --

    "I am pleased to see Senator Obama acknowledge the huge potential Alaska's natural gas reserves represent in terms of clean energy and sound jobs," Governor Palin said. "The steps taken by the Alaska State Legislature this past week demonstrate that we are ready, willing and able to supply the energy our nation needs."

    In a speech given in Lansing, Michigan, Senator Obama called for the completion of the Alaska natural gas pipeline, stating, "Over the next five years, we should also lease more of the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska for oil and gas production. And we should also tap more of our substantial natural gas reserves and work with the Canadian government to finally build the Alaska natural gas pipeline, delivering clean natural gas and creating good jobs in the process."

    Governor Palin also acknowledged the Senator's proposal to offer $1,000 rebates to those struggling with the high cost of energy.


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    Why are Democrats silent about (none / 0) (#56)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 04:41:23 PM EST
    Obama's support of highly questionable energy policies like more drilling in Alaska?

    Those policies aren't attracting any Republican voters. And furthermore, it's alienating to the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party when Obama blurs the distinction between himself and McCain.

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    prior to the Dem convention - (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Josey on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 07:56:12 PM EST
    Dem leaders boasted about their "green" convention. They didn't even have balloons! - but opted for fireworks instead.
    But I heard very little at Obama's party about global warming (might infuriate the Repub non-believers) and alternative energy sources.


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    Herkimer, the ball is in Obama's court. (5.00 / 2) (#52)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 04:02:16 PM EST
    Obama has avoided the larger issue of climate crisis and this allows McCain to use Gustav to erase the sins of Katrina without having to address the larger problem.

    The question is, what's Obama going to do about it going forward?

    You keeping making (5.00 / 0) (#59)
    by jar137 on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 05:30:06 PM EST
    this point, but I don't think it would resonate with the public.  Most people are not going to connect LA hurricanes with energy policy (or climate change).  Most people experience these as unpleasant natural phenomena.  Furthermore, the republicans don't have anything to offer in contrast, policy-wise.  A telethon or food collections are not a solution to the republicans' neglect or the greater problems posed by climate change.  They are merely efforts at minimizing pain emanating from a natural disaster (albeit decent, typically-American efforts).  Also, if the republicans do not do the same thing for future climate disturbances (if any) prior to the election, their cravenness in this response will be exposed.  

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    He needs to tell people (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by SueBonnetSue on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 09:09:13 PM EST
    Exactly what his plan is.  Obama needs to sell his plan, without just the same ol' things that democrats always say, but don't do.  Specifics!  

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    Thank you Professor. (none / 0) (#73)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 05:28:50 PM EST


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    That's Professor Herkheimer. (none / 0) (#74)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 05:30:13 PM EST


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    That's crazy pandering but (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by stefystef on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 04:06:17 PM EST
    It panders to the GOP base.  And isn't all politics pandering?

    And here I thought the Panderer In Chief (1.00 / 1) (#4)
    by PssttCmere08 on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:30:43 PM EST
    position had already been filled...

    Absolutely no difference between McCan and Obama (none / 0) (#34)
    by Saul on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:02:49 PM EST
    in the pandering category.  They are equally guilty.

    They can't be redemed (none / 0) (#50)
    by mmc9431 on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 03:41:07 PM EST
    Maybe the Democrat's need to dig up all those Republican's that questioned whether NO should be rebuilt. McCain may have been one of them? Or how politicized the recovery efforts were after Katrina.  They could also question why Lieberman chose not to hold any hearing on the Katrina disaster?

    Gustav May Not Cooperate (none / 0) (#55)
    by john horse on Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 04:39:41 PM EST
    with McCain's attempt to politicize this disaster.  

    By the way, I noticed this telling quote from McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis who said they "will try not to overly politicize it" which is practically an admission that they are politicizing Gustav (but they won't "overly" politicize it).  

    The problem is that Gustav is putting them in a pickle as it quickly fizzles out.  Gustav is turning out to be a minor hurricane, as far as hurricanes go.  There is no reason that the GOP should not continue their convention as originally planned.  Given how weak this storm is turning out, having McCain give his acceptance speech from the Gulf would raise questions about his judgement and his tendency to overreact.

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