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Sarah Palin: More Spiro Agnew Than Dick Cheney

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 05:36:22 PM EST
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Here's an interesting article on Gov. Sarah Palin from CQ that posits Palin would be more like Spiro Agnew than Dick Cheney on foreign policy.

What about on the other issues, from health care to social security to prisoners' rights to reproductive rights to global warming, energy and the economy.

Dick Cheney fortunately will soon be history. It's up to us, the voters, who we get next.

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    Palin on the issues (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by 1980Ford on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 05:50:07 PM EST
    Sarah Palin is a Populist-Leaning Conservative.

    More (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by nycstray on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 06:05:35 PM EST
    here's her Palin for Gov site

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    Last Friday, when she was selected... (none / 0) (#6)
    by EddieInCA on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 06:09:21 PM EST
    ...that page (OnTheIssues) was EMPTY.

    Amazing how many positions she has today.

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    I wonder if there are cached (none / 0) (#8)
    by inclusiveheart on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 06:18:49 PM EST
    versions?  I can't imagine it was empty when she ran for governor.  Are there three versions?  Old, Blank and "New & Improved"?  I'm not one of those people who is great at tracking down archived web pages, but if someone around here is, it might be an interesting pursuit to see if there are changes.

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    Fair analysis, that. (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by scribe on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 05:51:03 PM EST
    And she's about as popular with the hard-core Repug base as was Agnew.

    We'll see.

    I'm of the opinion, though, that it may be time for the blogs (at least) to dial it back from where it has been the last couple days ("11") when it comes to Palin.

    In short:  The axe and saw have done their work and now it's gravity's turn.  That tree's coming down.  Just stand clear so it doesn't hit you.

    Dick Cheney won't be history (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by inclusiveheart on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 05:53:38 PM EST
    if the Republicans maintain control of the White House.  He will continue to be a touch-stone elder statesman of his party if McCain wins.  One even wonders if Donald Rumsfeld will keep his office at the Pentagon even into a McCain administration.  If the aftermath of Watergate is any indication, a McCain administration will likely be slightly less audacious about parading the most heinous characters from the previous administration around town, but they will not go away.  Trust me or better yet - trust history.

    In Background and Temperment (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Strick on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 06:08:34 PM EST
    She seems more like Teddy Rooseveldt than Agnew, and several of us thought that as soon as we heard she was being considered, last May or soon.  No need to reference field dressing a moose.

    Teddy turned out all right.

    Yes (none / 0) (#16)
    by Prabhata on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 08:28:48 PM EST


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    Palin Vetoes Program for Teen Mothers (5.00 / 0) (#7)
    by john horse on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 06:10:06 PM EST
    Speaking of health care, what about Palin's using her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live?  (found via eschaton)

    Can you believe this?  

    (sarcasm alert) However, I'm sure that not only did McCain know about Palin's pregnant daughter before he selected her but he was also aware that she had vetoed a program helping other Alaskan's pregnant daughters.  

    The question isn't whether Palin has the experience to be VP but whether McCain has the judgement to be President.  

    Update (none / 0) (#10)
    by Strick on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 07:23:34 PM EST
    Your info is a bit out of date.

    I believe if you check into it you'll find Palin cut a major expansion of the program, not the program itself. Have a look at the exhibit in the article for yourself and you'll clearly see the program with the major cut is labeled an "expansion":

    Palin Slashed Funding for Teen Moms

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    See earlier threads (none / 0) (#11)
    by Cream City on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 07:35:26 PM EST
    re funding did double, though.  She cut back the legislative allotment to balance the budget, but this program still got twice what it got before.

    So this is not a good argument at all.

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    Fair Enough (none / 0) (#20)
    by john horse on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:51:28 PM EST
    According to the Washington Post, Palin slashed the funding allocated by the state legislature for a program benefitting teen mothers in need of a place to live.  She didn't cut the program.

    But lets take a closer look at that Washington Post article.  According to the Washington Post Palin reduced or elminated "funds for programs she opposed." Also, "Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers."  So she cuts the funds allocated by the state legislature by 20 percent and she did it in part because this was a program "she opposed".  

    Palin still doesn't come off looking too good as far as I'm concerned.

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    More Agnew than Cheney (5.00 / 0) (#9)
    by wasabi on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 06:28:09 PM EST
    I heard no less than 3 Republican operatives on TV today try to convince various talking heads that she really is the new Reagan.  Wow.  What a pushback underway.

    There is a difference between (none / 0) (#17)
    by Prabhata on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 08:32:28 PM EST
    Republicans and Democrats.  While Hillary got attacked by the media and the blogs, the party never spoke out.  I'm happy the Republicans are pushing back and I hope they win.

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    I enjoy what Mike Gravel has to say ... (none / 0) (#12)
    by Inky on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 07:37:17 PM EST
    about Sarah's Palin's FP experience:

    Foreign policy experience? Thank god she has none beyond that of a normal citizen subject to the militarization of our culture over the past 50 years, particularly so in Alaska with its strong military presence. The three other would-be leaders have tons of experience among them. But whether liberal or conservative all three are committed to a policy of American imperialism with the self-appointed role of world policeman. This role of trying to influence the world with our military might sustains bloated defense budgets that profit the few and impoverish the social and economic needs of the many.

    The United States spends more on defense than all the rest of the world combined. By comparison, Russia and China--our supposed competitors on the world scene--each spend less that 10% of our budget, preferring to strengthen their economic sectors. Are we not as concerned about the wellbeing of our citizens as Russia's and China's leaders are? Do they--or do we--have our budget priorities wrong?

    Sarah is no doubt going to be briefed by the "best and the brightest" of the neocon crowd that President Washington warned us about with their foreign entanglements, and the military and corporate leaders that President Eisenhower predicted would destroy our democracy. Will they be able to write her a new slate that is a replica of John McCain's? Odds are they will. But just maybe she won't be so easily co-opted by corporate America--she hasn't thus far. Wow! Isn't that an interesting possibility?

    I'm sure that not everyone here is a big Mike Gravel fan, but keep in mind that Gravel is from Alaska and does at least know something about Alaskan politics and the community that produced Sarah Palin.

    You can read the rest here.

    I wasn't a fan of his recent campaign (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by rdandrea on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 08:03:47 PM EST
    But I will always remember him for filibustering the draft, and probably, more than anyone, getting it abolished.

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    Hey Jeralyn (none / 0) (#13)
    by cpa1 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 07:57:43 PM EST
    For those of us who remember Spiro it is hard to believe that that CS was less dangerous than Cheney.  Remember the effete snobs comment?

    I was at GW during those years, and did we ever had Agnew, Nixon and the CDUs, the Civil Disturbance Units.

    Carly Fiorina (none / 0) (#15)
    by flyerhawk on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 08:10:25 PM EST
    was just on MSNBC.

    She said that the attacks on Sarah Palin are clearly sexist and that questions about experience  are unfair because Barack Obama is not being challenged regarding his experience so why should Sarah Palin?

    I have no idea how she was able to keep a straight face on that comment.

    Obama has not been challenged (none / 0) (#18)
    by Prabhata on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 08:41:11 PM EST
    The truth is that Obama's experience is being a state legislator.  Obama began his run for the presidency almost as soon as he became a US senator. Obama can make fun that Palin was mayor of a small town and compare the budget of his campaign to the budget of the mayor.  I guess Obama forgot that Palin was the governor and her budget is over 9 billion.

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    What? (none / 0) (#19)
    by flyerhawk on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:01:52 PM EST
    Obama has not been challenged?  WTF was happening to him for the past 20 months?    

    Barely a day has gone by without SOMEONE challenging him on his experience.

    Just because that didn't prevent people from voting for him doesn't change the fact that he has most certainly been challenged.

    Whether Palin is or is not more experienced that Obama means absolutely nothing.   It is a meaningless comparison that is based more on the preferences of the people talking and listening.

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