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Sarah Palin Time -- Live Blog

The pre-scripted, ready made for prime time Sarah Palin is beginning her speech.

Live blog in comments.

Updates below.

Update: She forgot to mention, among all her husband's attributes, his membership in the Alaskan Independence Party.

I feel like I'm watching the Beverly Hilbillies. Jennie C. Reilly and the Harper and the Harper Valley PTA?

She didn't need focus groups before, but she's going to get ready for them quick.

I think these people have lost their minds.

An image of Condi Rice just flashed in my mind. What a contrast in competence. The American public won't buy this. Can you picture her meeting with the CIA? The U.N.? If she's the future as Rudy said, we're all in deep doo-doo.

It's surreal to hear her regurgitate the campaign's attacks on Obama. Does she really think anyone will believe her experience as mayor of TinyTown and 1/1/2 years as Governor compares? It's like she is performing in a high school play.

Ok, stick a fork in her, she's done. She just bashed Miranda rights. My gloves are going to come off.

She reminds me of Mary Hartman. Anyone remember Fernwood?

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    Rudy was so long winded (5.00 / 0) (#1)
    by flyerhawk on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:31:56 PM EST
    they had to cut the bio video.

    Good job, Rudy.

    He was annoying (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by elonepb on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:34:05 PM EST
    He doesn't sound diplomatic at all. He represents what most people hate about the Republican party right now.

    And when he said they only agreed with Hillary on one point, I thought that did a great disservice to the McCain pander campaign.

    Parent

    It might really be "good job Rudy" (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by nycstray on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:35:03 PM EST
    not sure of your intenet, but missing a Bio video on her is prob good for the Dems.

    Parent
    He got very condescending towards the end there (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Lil on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:36:28 PM EST
    Just towards the end? (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by TomStewart on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:39:16 PM EST
    I even found his pauses condescending.

    Parent
    But of course, your handle says it all! (5.00 / 0) (#35)
    by elonepb on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:41:48 PM EST
    Exactly (none / 0) (#111)
    by Gabriel on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:56:53 PM EST
    Red meat Rudy (5.00 / 0) (#25)
    by Jerrymcl89 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:40:03 PM EST
    He certainly was the most agressive of all the speakers, as might be expected. I don't know if that will be a net positive nationally, but it certainly worked in the room.

    Parent
    Republican speechwriters (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by samtaylor2 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:35:12 PM EST
    Are either no good, or more likely have nothing to have these people say.  They just say nothing, over and over again

    I'll stick my neck out here. Looks (5.00 / 3) (#8)
    by oculus on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:35:37 PM EST
    to me like Governor Palin's husband is genuinely proud of his wife.  

    Of Course. (5.00 / 0) (#15)
    by Brillo on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:38:49 PM EST
    However wrong they may be about pretty much every issue, it's not like they're not a normal family...

    Parent
    Just abnormal names for kids :) (5.00 / 0) (#31)
    by elonepb on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:41:04 PM EST
    What's a "normal" name? Barack? (5.00 / 2) (#57)
    by echinopsia on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:46:30 PM EST
    At least that's a family name (5.00 / 0) (#75)
    by indiependy on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:49:18 PM EST
    That came from his ancestry, as opposed to naming 2 of your daughters after TV witches.

    Parent
    Don't start with me. (5.00 / 2) (#154)
    by echinopsia on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:05:41 PM EST
    I have an unusual name - it was VERY unusual when I was born. And I LOVE my unusual name, despite all the misspellings and mispronunciations, because it is unique and it is MINE. A gift from my mother.

    And for that matter, how common a name is Jeralyn?

    Parent

    I think (none / 0) (#189)
    by Grace on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:21:34 PM EST
    Echinopsia is a far more uncommon name than Barack, Jeralyn, or any of the five Palin kids.  

    I hope your last name is Smith.  ;-)  

    Parent

    I'm sure you're kidding (5.00 / 1) (#196)
    by echinopsia on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:23:10 PM EST
    but for those who don't get it, echinopsia is not my real name.

    Parent
    I think Barack Obama is a normal name, but... (5.00 / 3) (#104)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:55:52 PM EST
    Obama and everybody in his campaign thinks it's a "funny name", evidently.

    Can y'all see the little girl who's holding Trig and licking her hand to smooth down his hair. Cute.

    Parent

    touche (none / 0) (#69)
    by Lil on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:48:14 PM EST
    Barack means "He who is blessed" (none / 0) (#80)
    by elonepb on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:50:33 PM EST
    What do you supposed "Trig" and "Levi" means?

    Parent
    You can look up Trig (5.00 / 1) (#167)
    by echinopsia on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:11:46 PM EST
    But she didn't name Levi.

    Here, let me do it for you - Trig means "strength.

    Parent

    I feel elitist now (none / 0) (#48)
    by Lil on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:45:02 PM EST
    but what is it with those names? I have a very non traditional name for my daughter, but jeez louise...

    Parent
    I think Willow and Bristol are (none / 0) (#79)
    by nycstray on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:50:24 PM EST
    Alaskan towns, not sure about Track. Piper, no clue. Her youngest Trig has a shout out to Van Halen. 2 middle names second middle name is Van. So he's Trig * Van Palin.

    Everything above is a guess except the Van Palin :)

    Parent

    I don't even want (5.00 / 1) (#112)
    by Lil on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:56:55 PM EST
    to say what my daughter's name is because it is so unique it would be too identifying. But all 5 of her kids seemed to be named like a rock star's kids. I'm just surprised Republicans would go for that sort of thing.

    Parent
    Piper is for the airplane. (none / 0) (#109)
    by echinopsia on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:56:35 PM EST
    unusual names (none / 0) (#125)
    by landjjames on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:00:42 PM EST
    Trig is a Norse word for "strength" and supposedly Track was so named because he was born during track season and the family are big track fans.  Piper is a bush plane, Willow and Bristol are place names in Alaska.

    Parent
    spousal devotion is not (none / 0) (#139)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:03:47 PM EST
    exactly related to competency to govern.

    Parent
    Where's TChris? (5.00 / 0) (#10)
    by themomcat on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:35:41 PM EST


    I'm taking over for TChris (none / 0) (#81)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:50:35 PM EST
    It seems obvious she didn't write this (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by shoephone on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:36:17 PM EST
    And, um.. she sounds like a supporter, not a running mate. Sorry. Very amateurish.

    Oh, goody. War, war, war. War is good!

    THANK YOU (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by overprotective on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:39:06 PM EST
    I was beginning to think it was just me...

    ...she was supposed to use this speech to demonstrate presidential qualities.

    So far, I think she's underperformed.  

    Parent

    She is showing that she's (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by litigatormom on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:42:18 PM EST
    America's Hockey Mom. And SHE is always proud of America, unlike some moms we know!!!

    I hate to sound patronizing, but so far the speech sounds like something a candidate's spouse would make.

    Parent

    I was just thinking (5.00 / 0) (#68)
    by CCinNC on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:48:04 PM EST
    the same thing.

    Parent
    Was Rudy ad-libbing? (5.00 / 0) (#12)
    by ding7777 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:36:18 PM EST
    I only saw the last 20 minutes but he sounded very disjointed

    Only 20 minutes? (5.00 / 0) (#17)
    by themomcat on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:39:14 PM EST
    You had to hear his state of the city tirades.They went on forever and very disjointed.


    Parent
    Oh good (5.00 / 0) (#14)
    by flyerhawk on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:37:08 PM EST
    another family bio.

    Is she going to rehash Friday?

    Rudy's speech is rife with sound bites... (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:39:20 PM EST
    Rudy says: Obama changes his mind so often, that if I were Joe Biden, I'd want to get that VP thing in writing.

    Oh crap. It's not my brand of humor, but I can see why it goes over well.

    I have to admit... (5.00 / 3) (#49)
    by Jerrymcl89 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:45:05 PM EST
    ... the seven year old licking down his hair was kind of adorable, politics aside.

    Parent
    he wants to be paul wolfowitz (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by Turkana on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:49:10 PM EST
    when he grows up...

    Parent
    The seven-year old is really (5.00 / 1) (#96)
    by oculus on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:53:18 PM EST
    intrigued with the concept of being on TV.  Good she's looking out for the baby too!

    Parent
    Does anyone hold that baby... (5.00 / 0) (#21)
    by Dadler on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:39:57 PM EST
    ...for more than five minutes?  I'm waiting for them to cut to Guiliani holding him.

    On NBC (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by Grace on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:53:50 PM EST
    they had a shot of Piper licking her fingers then slicking down the baby's hair.  That was pretty funny!  

    Parent
    Wow. Husband Todd (5.00 / 0) (#23)
    by shoephone on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:40:01 PM EST
    is a champion snow machine racer! Let's elect her VP!

    Rah Rah Rah! (the crowd goes wild...)

    Like a Saturday Night Live skit (none / 0) (#39)
    by domerdem on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:42:33 PM EST
    Palin (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by themomcat on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:46:10 PM EST
    is Tina Fey's double.


    Parent
    She's awful (5.00 / 0) (#24)
    by nrglaw on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:40:01 PM EST
    Nasal voice...sort of squeaky..not much in the presence dept.

    Yes. (5.00 / 9) (#53)
    by Lysis on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:45:47 PM EST
    Women's voices are so annoying.  Pretty soon she'll be cackling.

    /snark

    Parent

    Equal time; Rudy's voice drives me (5.00 / 3) (#74)
    by byteb on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:49:14 PM EST
    up the wall. I cannot stand to listen to him.

    Parent
    Some women's voices are annoying (5.00 / 1) (#120)
    by Gabriel on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:59:19 PM EST
    Some men's voices are annoying.

    Parent
    Some men and women (5.00 / 0) (#185)
    by themomcat on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:20:24 PM EST
    are just annoying without saying a word.


    Parent
    Yeah... (2.00 / 0) (#216)
    by Thanin on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 11:17:12 PM EST
    her voice being very annoying has NOTHING to do with her gender, its just true.

    Parent
    Palin: (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by litigatormom on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:40:13 PM EST
    There is a time to campaign and a time to put country first.

    Does this  mean that she and McCain will be withdrawing from the race.

    Oh God, now she's talking about her family life.  "No family is typical, and ours is no different."  Even joyous occasions bring challenges. Mentions special challenges of special needs children.  Wonder if she'll introduce Bristol's boyfriend.

    She pledges that parents of special needs kids will have a friend and advocate in the White House.  Does this mean she will push for {{gasp}} social programs?  

    Now she's talking about Todd, his snowmachine racing, his union membership, his fishing, his Eskimo heritage, but NOT that he works for BP.

    Wasilla a place of opportunity for women.

    Will she mention (5.00 / 0) (#67)
    by themomcat on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:47:59 PM EST
    how she cut funding for unwed mothers?


    Parent
    That's been debunked, you know. (5.00 / 2) (#86)
    by echinopsia on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:51:24 PM EST
    Except (5.00 / 1) (#116)
    by Steve M on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:58:28 PM EST
    for the part where it was actually true, yeah.

    Parent
    no falsehoods here echipsia (none / 0) (#149)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:05:05 PM EST
    It's true; see gyrfalcon's details below (5.00 / 1) (#193)
    by Cream City on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:22:17 PM EST
    summarizing well details I read elsewhere, too.  

    My state also has a legislature that loves to turn in impossible budgets, because my state's governor also has line-item veto power to then balance the budget, which also is legally required in my state -- required of the governor, not the legislature.

    So she had to take final responsibility for the final amount of funding, and so she did more than double the funding.

    Parent

    It's not a falsehood. (none / 0) (#172)
    by echinopsia on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:15:23 PM EST
    She reduced an increase. She didn't cut funds.

    Parent
    or did she double it from the (none / 0) (#121)
    by nycstray on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:59:28 PM EST
    previous year?

    check that one out. I'm hearing it both ways.

    Parent

    She didn't double anything (5.00 / 2) (#141)
    by Steve M on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:04:04 PM EST
    The Legislature budgeted a certain amount.  She cut that amount.

    The counter-spin is that even after she cut it from the amount the Legislature had appropriated, it was still more than had been allocated in the prior year.  That's true, but she still cut the amount the Legislature had appropriated.

    Parent

    I can straighten this out (5.00 / 1) (#169)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:12:53 PM EST
    The funding was for Covenant House, which doesn't just deal with unwed mothers but teenagers in trouble of any kind.  They decided they wanted to expand, build a new building, etc., asked the legislature for $10 million. (Previous year's funding from the state was something like $1.2 mill.)

    Legislature granted them $5 million, Palin cut it down by 20 percent to roughly $4 million.

    Alaska has the line-item veto for the gov., and she cut a bunch of stuff in order to stay within the legally mandated budget.

    So funding for troubled teens more than doubled, but she did cut a 20 percent chunk out of the extra money the program was given by the legislature.

    Parent

    At the risk of being cynical... (none / 0) (#192)
    by DudeE on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:21:45 PM EST
    ...the 'special needs' bit is mostly a shout-out to the pro-lifers.

    There's a lot about Republican speeches that does not compute.  Like saluting McCain's persistence is the face of prolonged torture a mere 2 minutes after criticizing Obama - and most of the civilized world - for seeking due process for "terrorists".  Good when we do it, bad when it's done to us.

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    Her husband is (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by frenly on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:40:14 PM EST
    a hottie, and I'm not even gay.  I know it isn't relevant.

    as a gay man (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by txpolitico67 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:44:21 PM EST
    i would guess u are!   <eg>

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    Im a gay woman (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by Lil on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:46:55 PM EST
    and I think he's hot too.

    Parent
    Special needs advocate in the White House. (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by Lysis on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:40:15 PM EST
    All politics aside, that one got to me.  I have a niece with autism and it's been an uphill battle.

    badass? (none / 0) (#61)
    by Dadler on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:46:58 PM EST
    and i hear his skateboard is rad.

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    lighten up, i was making fun of... (none / 0) (#160)
    by Dadler on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:08:35 PM EST
    ...badass.  

    Parent
    I was told she (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by TomStewart on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:41:08 PM EST
    was going to kill a moose, live on stage.

    Well, I'm disappointed.

    I'm just at the first 5 minutes (5.00 / 0) (#36)
    by Lil on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:41:52 PM EST
    of Palin, but she seems nervous. Nor like last Saturday, where she seemed self assured.

    Nwo she is battling corruption (none / 0) (#70)
    by litigatormom on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:49:01 PM EST
    and giving up the governor's private jet, selling it on eBay.

    Parent
    the last governor said she was (4.00 / 2) (#93)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:53:01 PM EST
    a fool for trying to sell it -- the loan matched the fair market value, she lucked out on EBay. Just what we need, a gambling VP.

    Parent
    The executive (5.00 / 5) (#204)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:25:32 PM EST
    Just what we need, a gambling VP.

    Part of the executive's job is to assess risk and take action.  You are right that her assessment may have been faulty, but it was not in actual fact.  The loan value was only one factor.  Don't forget maintenance, insurance, and other costs of ownership that she unburdened the taxpayers from.

    Parent

    Man (5.00 / 7) (#52)
    by txpolitico67 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:45:36 PM EST
    she is hitting the small town bitter clingy thing right out of the ballpark right now.

    GUNS AND GODS (5.00 / 0) (#56)
    by laila on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:46:21 PM EST
    WHATEVER...I THINK SHE FORGOT WHEN SHE CALLED HILARY A WHINER?  WHATEVER THIS IS SUCH GARBAGE.

    She didn't. (5.00 / 5) (#95)
    by echinopsia on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:53:14 PM EST
    Laila, however, called Gov. Palin a blow-up doll.

    Consider the source.

    Parent

    on a tv show (5.00 / 0) (#98)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:54:05 PM EST
    she said compared some statements of Hillary to a whine.

    Parent
    Perceived whine. (5.00 / 3) (#124)
    by echinopsia on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:00:10 PM EST
    That lessens the insult? (5.00 / 0) (#151)
    by Molly Bloom on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:05:27 PM EST
    I think not.

    Parent
    "Perceived whine" is what she said (5.00 / 7) (#135)
    by Cream City on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:03:22 PM EST
    when asked about Clinton.

    The adjective, of course, correctly put the onus on those who perceived Clinton as a whiner.

    That goes right over the heads of some here.:-)

    Parent

    I disagree (5.00 / 2) (#155)
    by Steve M on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:05:54 PM EST
    Her point was that Hillary should have conducted herself differently in order to please the people who perceived her as whining.

    The perception was all the fault of other people, but somehow it still fell on Hillary to resolve the issue.  Kinda unfair, in my book.

    Parent

    You really must not (5.00 / 0) (#208)
    by indy in sc on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:26:07 PM EST
    have listened to the tape.  Palin says that Hillary "does herself a disservice" to mention any excess criticism.  She also says that Hillary should "work harder" to prove herself.  To quote Cher from Clueless "as if."  So no, it was not a criticism of the criticizers, but of the criticized.

    Parent
    Do they really think (5.00 / 2) (#58)
    by shoephone on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:46:34 PM EST
    they can win simply by maligning "San Francisco Liberals" and that old "liberal media"?

    It's 1988 all over again.

    So far, she hasn't said... anything. Not anything of substance anyway. Sad.

    Now the media (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by txpolitico67 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:47:00 PM EST
    is being booed BIG TIME.  Palin is hitting all the right chords with the conventioneers.

    Will be very interesting how those remarks resonate with all those undecideds in "fly over country".

    Yeah. (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by flyerhawk on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:51:15 PM EST
    It is so hard to really get the crowd riled up by attacking the media especially at a Republican National Convention.

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    It's turning into a very effective speech. (5.00 / 8) (#71)
    by karmadillo on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:49:02 PM EST
    She's a good speaker and comes across as very likeable. Her family is going to be an asset, current feeding frenzy to the contrary. I wish I wish I wish we had Hillary on the ticket.

    I think this speech (5.00 / 9) (#162)
    by ahazydelirium on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:08:58 PM EST
    will energize the base.

    The more she speaks, the greater her statements flow. Whether they are her own writing or generic, she delivers them well and the writing ain't bad either. Keeping in mind the audience, of course. Most liberals and progressives won't really be impressed, but then this speech isn't for them. It's for the conservatives and moderates, and I think it will play well with them. Her style will play well with rural voters, I think. She comes across as "small town" and "folksy" -- two qualities that, despite her politics, seem genuine.

    Watching this speech, I think the Republican ticket has become a lot more threatening.

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    Admittedly it doesn't take much... (5.00 / 0) (#206)
    by DudeE on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:26:02 PM EST
    ...to "energize" an arena full of the most hardcore and loyal of Republicans when you ply them with booze and parties and music and red meat speeches.

    What I found awkward were the few moments of silence between when Palin paused and the crowd seemed to clue in to the flashing "Applause" sign.

    Parent

    in comparison to what? (none / 0) (#94)
    by Dadler on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:53:08 PM EST
    She's going to get hit hard in debates on her (5.00 / 0) (#90)
    by shoephone on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:52:43 PM EST
    supposed opposition to the Bridge to Nowhere. And on earmarks.

    Here comes the fear card again: the stakes for our nation could not be higher.

    she flip-flopped on the bridge to nowhere (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:55:22 PM EST
    this is the campaign to nowhere.

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    Jeralyn (5.00 / 0) (#127)
    by shoephone on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:01:42 PM EST
    That's your late night music video for tonight:

    Road to Nowhere by Talking Heads.

    Parent

    So, they'll get 300% of their base's votes. (5.00 / 0) (#105)
    by steviez314 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:56:00 PM EST
    Is there anything here for the Independent pissed off about the economy?

    By the way, "pundits" are saying Nasty Rudy was too nasty.  Great for the base (get 400% of their vote now!) but too ugly for the middle.

    Reminds me of Bucannan (5.00 / 1) (#118)
    by TomStewart on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:58:59 PM EST
    at the '92 repub convention. Of course then the pundits though it was great, until they talked to the general public.

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    So glad I didn't watch Rudy (none / 0) (#157)
    by litigatormom on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:06:44 PM EST
    As a resident of NYC, I suffered a brief period of PTSD in which I thought Rudy did a great job on 9/11.  That lasted a few weeks.  Before, and ever since, I have despised him.

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    Damn she is getting (5.00 / 8) (#110)
    by txpolitico67 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:56:48 PM EST
    in some digs on Obama.  The greek columns thing!  OUCH!

    Really? (5.00 / 1) (#128)
    by Lil on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:01:55 PM EST
    HRC's speech was 10 times better and she's not even on the ticket. Tomorrow this speech will be ripped to shreds. I'm actually releived that she wasn't as good as I thought she would be.

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    And the seal. (5.00 / 3) (#146)
    by oculus on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:04:20 PM EST
    Is it just me (5.00 / 4) (#114)
    by shoephone on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:57:48 PM EST
    or are these convention speeches about a hundred times more negative and petty sounding than any of those at the DNC?

    Terror and fear again. Be afraid. Be very afraid!

    Well, you go (5.00 / 2) (#130)
    by TomStewart on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:02:02 PM EST
    with what you know. Obama want to be about hope. the repubs are all about fear. As it is, all the speeches tonight sound like they've been studying Reagan's speeches from the 80's. Next we'll here a defense of Raymond Donovan...

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    It's not just you (5.00 / 1) (#134)
    by CCinNC on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:03:01 PM EST
    Both she and Guilliani (sp) were nasty.

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    agree 100%. I hope Obama comes out swinging on Fri (5.00 / 0) (#153)
    by Lil on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:05:38 PM EST
    This is an intensely negative speech (5.00 / 1) (#163)
    by nrglaw on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:09:08 PM EST
    I'm not sure how well this plays. It may work well at the convention, but the first look that the public is getting of her is with claws drawn.

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    The pundits seem to think (5.00 / 2) (#183)
    by shoephone on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:20:12 PM EST
    she knocked it out of the park. All except for Tom Brokaw and Mark Shields, who mentioned her flip-flop on the Bridge to Nowhere.

    Michael Beschloss, as usual, making a total fool of himself. Going on and on about how it's historic that "for the first time ever we saw a presidential and vice-presidential candidate hugging!" Hmm. I think Barack and Joe hugged last Wednesday, but whatever. Beschloss has to yammer on about something so we won't notice how irrelevant a pundit he really is.

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    Yeah. (none / 0) (#171)
    by Lil on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:13:51 PM EST
    defeat means death...come on.

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    Oop, she just lied (5.00 / 3) (#119)
    by Dadler on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:59:08 PM EST
    Obama clearly stated he'd give tax relief to 95% of working families.  She just said he wants to raise taxes, as if he'll just raise them across the board.

    Big.  Fat.  Lie.

    "just lied'??? (5.00 / 1) (#148)
    by byteb on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:05:05 PM EST
    how about, yet another lie..

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    Nice (5.00 / 7) (#126)
    by standingup on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:01:14 PM EST
    I feel like I'm watching the Beverly Hilbillies. Jennie C. Reilly and the Harper and the Harper Valley PTA?
    This is the sort of talk that helps to secure votes for McCain/Palin with the rural voters that Obama needs in states like Missouri.

    Sounds a lot like my relatives (5.00 / 5) (#159)
    by Cream City on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:07:07 PM EST
    in Washington State, and my mother born in Idaho.

    Maybe those who wanted to win with a Western strategy ought to have listened to Westerners first.  At least they wouldn't be so shocked, I say shocked,  that she sounds like a Northwesterner.

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    I understand Palin is the (5.00 / 8) (#188)
    by standingup on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:21:25 PM EST
    VP for the opposing party and that Jeralyn is supporting the Democratic ticket but there is something very personal about this reaction to Palin. And a reaction is exactly what it is when it leads to remarks that are classist to the point they offend others.

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    Todd being a Union Steelworker (5.00 / 0) (#131)
    by ding7777 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:02:04 PM EST
    didn't go over too well.

    Obama wants to increase all taxes (5.00 / 0) (#143)
    by litigatormom on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:04:12 PM EST
    Income tax, business tax, death tax, investment tax.  How can her sister open her gas station. How can they cope if taxes go up.

    Gee, Sarah, is that why you didn't pay taxes on YOUR gas station?

    Obama will add massive tax burden to our nation, billions of dollars.

    Some candidates use change to promote their careers, others like McCain use their careers to promote change.

    Their names appear on laws, not banners and buttons and self-designed seals.  

    Idealism of McCain, who actually does great things, doesn't call people to do great things.  

    McCain's record of reform is the reason special interests and lobbyists is the reason why people have been so afraid since 2000 of a McCain presidency. {{OOOOH! Dig at Bush!!}} Harry Reid can't stand McCain, this is proof that McCain is the right man for the job.  What Reid meant is that he can't stand UP to McCain.

    Presidency is not a journey of personal discovery. WTF does that mean? This country doesn't just need an organizer. Obama and Biden say they are fighting for you, but only one man in this race has ever really fought for you.

    I hate to say it, but this is about as good as job as they could have hoped for her.

    The Drive by Media (5.00 / 1) (#147)
    by jxstorm on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:04:32 PM EST
    underestimated Palin big time!

    small (5.00 / 0) (#152)
    by pixpixpix on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:05:33 PM EST
    Mocking the opposition is sooooo... small minded.

    The Republicans are actually better than this claptrap

    I know what this is (5.00 / 1) (#156)
    by elonepb on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:06:37 PM EST
    The Anti-Hope Convention.

    Just face it, it's Hope-less. You need to be scared.

    Always.

    Anyway else feel they are listening to (5.00 / 0) (#158)
    by Joan in VA on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:06:55 PM EST
    Marge Gunderson give a speech at the Blue Ox?

    My first real impression of Palin: (5.00 / 0) (#166)
    by Don in Seattle on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:11:29 PM EST
    What a snide, opportunistic, utterly dishonest, nasty piece of work.

    That speech, I mean.

    Have a beer... (5.00 / 2) (#168)
    by Blowback on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:12:28 PM EST
    "It's surreal to hear her regurgitate the campaign's attacks on Obama. Does she really think anyone will believe her experience as mayor of TinyTown and 1/1/2 years as Governor compares? It's like she is performing in a high school play.

    Ok, stick a fork in her, she's done. She just bashed Miranda rights. My gloves are going to come off."

    Unfortunately, I remember 8 years ago when I lived in DC, I NEVER thought the USA could be so stupid to get W. They wanted to have a f**** beer with the Dunce.

    I do fear the ignorant masses!  I am scared.


    The Am,erican people ELECTED Gore (5.00 / 2) (#180)
    by Dadler on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:19:13 PM EST
    The U.S. Supreme Court INSTALLED Dubya as President.  Big difference.

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    I know, (none / 0) (#197)
    by Blowback on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:23:28 PM EST
    but it was way too close, that's how it got to the Supremes. (I worked that campaign.) Do we thank Donna Brazile for that?

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    so damn true... (none / 0) (#213)
    by laila on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:33:37 PM EST
    I was in a state of shock at her speech...well with 3 supreme court judges up for the pickings...OMG.  This country will go back decades.  I am done.  I just lost my temper..if she thinks that that she didn't get the DEMOCRATIC BASE fired up she has another thing coming.  It would do me no good to use cuss words in here but they were flying during that ridiculous speech.  Tracy Fleck is a baracuda that is going to go down in flames.  

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    Is that flag big enough? (5.00 / 1) (#170)
    by byteb on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:13:49 PM EST


    Tonight is all about the GOP talking points (5.00 / 2) (#173)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:15:31 PM EST
    we'll be hearing for the next couple of months.

    Palin:


    There are candidates who use their careers to promote change (McCain); and others who use change to promote their careers (Obama).

    I hope the Obama campaign is taking notes and prepping come-backs that are equally succinct, funny, and fearless.

    BTW: Not a McCain/Palin fan here.

    I thought it bad form (5.00 / 2) (#175)
    by McKinless on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:16:28 PM EST
    belittling Obama and Biden. Mocking them. Didn't happen to McCain at the DemCon. But, I guess, that's modern Republicanism.

    Changy-Hopey, the names of my wild rabbits. (5.00 / 7) (#182)
    by Angel on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:20:00 PM EST
    My husband, the graduate degreed, politicial science major, thought she nailed the speech.  Small town America will eat this sh&t up.  Wolf Blitzer just came on and said she hit it out of the ballpark.  I think she said what needed to be said.  Smalltown America will love her.  That's where they'll win the election.....

    Moose (5.00 / 1) (#205)
    by Blowback on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:25:52 PM EST
    I have already heard my friends saying how nice it is that she cleans,knows how to dress a moose.

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    Palin: "The American Presidency is not (5.00 / 5) (#184)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:20:14 PM EST
    supposed to be a journey of self-discovery".

    You see, tonight we're hearing all the derisive critiques of Obama that the Democratic Party, and the MSM, spared him during the campaign.

    Don't ya wish the GOP convention had preceded the Dems?

    I came across a post which said Palin is being (5.00 / 6) (#186)
    by jawbone on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:20:55 PM EST
    unfairly attacked on the cut of funds to an unwed mothers' home. Something about the three preceding years having been big increases for a building fund, plus it's a Catholic charity home and most of the funding comes the Catholic Church and other donations.

    I'll try to find the link, but I'm too tired right now--must sleep.

    When the MCM reports on our guys unfairly, we must call them on it. Same for when they decide to change sides and report unfairly the other side.

    I want a better media, with real journalism and, well, reality-based. That would be so cool. Think about it: fact-based reporting! With clearly id'd analysis, punditry, and snark.

    Nite all!

    Trig is finally awake on Mom's shoulder... (5.00 / 2) (#200)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:24:34 PM EST
    What an adorable expression. And I'm not even partial to babies.

    Palin (5.00 / 2) (#201)
    by jxstorm on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:24:36 PM EST
    destroyed Obama tonight and she did it while looking like an angel!  The community organizer line and change bit was hilarious!

    Gauche (5.00 / 1) (#203)
    by Pol C on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:24:47 PM EST
    She's not used to working with a teleprompter or building a rhythm with the crowd applause.

    I was put off by the Miranda reference, too. As well as the reference to Georgia. As far as the latter goes, though, I do think Biden will have his hands full in their debate. I watched that CNBC Palin interview with Maria Bartiromo that aired Friday night. She knows more about energy policy in her little finger than McCain, Biden, and Obama combined.

    As for the speech text, it was too long, too meandering, and too obviously scripted for effect. In short, it was a typical political speech, and typical political speeches suck.

    I don't get it! (5.00 / 0) (#212)
    by gentlyweepingguitar on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:33:37 PM EST
    If they think Bush is so great, how can they say we need change? Doesn't make sense to me.

    I thought she was good (5.00 / 3) (#215)
    by waldenpond on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:42:10 PM EST
    Alot of pressure.  Speaking in front of that many people, knowing many were watching teebee.  She came across as natural.  Media very positive.

    CNN: Wolf, a star is born, relate to her family, 360 what a difference a week makes, certainly a star is born, well written, delivery, hit it out of the park, forceful, talking to rural/Clinton voters, small town values, elitism, King: 'how dare you' speech.. how dare you question where I'm from, small towns... not just reading a telepromter, unflinching after a week of a media storm, strength,  etc.... Piper licked hand and wiped babies hair down.

    Fox: star is born.  Wolfson: Biden needs to bring his A game, heck of a speech, impressed with going after Obama with a smile, effective, she was very good, imagery priceless, very good job, Democrats should be concerned, first time ever, under the lights... (policy no, but ability).... Other talking head: spectacular piece of theater, showed toughness with a smile, cut and thrust, clever way playing on small town story = Obama elitist out of touch.

    MSNBC: sarcastic. Now doing the roll call......

    Well, I thought CNN and MSNBC would diss her, but looks like just MSNBC.

    Matthews: a star is born, new political presence, surprising... Rachel: sarcasm, mockery, insult, belittling, nasty, can't pronounce the words.  Pat: rookie with a shut out, intelligent, strength, contrast with Biden exciting new, like Obama fresh and different, beautiful. Other talking head-woman: great story, Piper licked hand and wiped babies hair down.  Other head Robinson?: policy boiler plate but elegant when she was herself. Williams: Ann Curry's interview. Palin lived the American dream (like Obama) us versus them,  quoting Joe Klein..... media needs to stand strong against Palin... blah, blah, blah Brokaw: concerned about the attacks on the media.

    Say what you will though (4.80 / 5) (#91)
    by frenly on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:52:43 PM EST
    expectations have been set low for her, so this speech will be well received.  She's doing what she needs to do; got out in front of the experience issue by highlighting her executive status, playing the "i'm a regular mom" card.  She's gotten comfortable with the crowd and now is heading into economic issues, leading with oil & gas and tying it in to foreign policy.  This woman is tough.

    Please (5.00 / 0) (#138)
    by Dadler on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:03:39 PM EST
    She is governor of a state with a population smaller than that which the Mayor of Columbus, Ohio must represent.  She's tough when she's a big fish in a little pond.  Beyond that, gimme a break, she has no idea.  No one does.

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    Ok... (5.00 / 2) (#217)
    by phatpay on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 11:22:50 PM EST
    Could you at least phrase that better for Alaskans?
    Big fish in a gigantic pond.

    Alaska = 570,000 square miles (or 1/5 the US)

    Columbus, Ohio = 200 square miles

    I live in Seattle now, but am from the city of the "Bridge to Nowhere" fame. While it may seem like pork to some, we have been waiting for that bridge to open economic opportunities in the Tongass Narrows my whole life. I was very disappointed to see her beat that drum.

    I thought Palin's speech was a mix of attack dog and cheerleader. At least she didn't embarrass Alaska. I think she will definitely appeal to the conservative base and small town America.

    I think she will also be a real challenge to debate for Biden. I'm really interested to see how that pans out. Very dangerous territory there.
    Attack too much and Biden's a misogynist. Too little and he's a schmuck.

    I don't think she's very Presidential. But then, she wasn't picked to be President. She was picked to help elect McSame for the issues that she could trumpet: Energy, Conservatism, Faith, Reform, Female Empowerment.

    The whole Republican convention is a yawnfest.
    At least Palin registered some spark.


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    yes, they needed to make sure she stayed (none / 0) (#3)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:33:27 PM EST
    within the hour for primetime the networks allotted..

    OMG (none / 0) (#5)
    by overprotective on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:34:39 PM EST
    Is it just me or...

    ...is she sorta bombing?

    I'm just not feeling anything from her.

    I kind of agree (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by elonepb on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:40:48 PM EST
    I think she is doing a good job reading the speech written for her though.

    It just feels too forced.

    I'm much more interested to see her one-on-one sit downs with a news host.... if the McCain campaign ever allows her.

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    the crowd is loving her (5.00 / 2) (#64)
    by litigatormom on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:47:26 PM EST
    and the pundits -- a word that she pronounced "pundents" -- will gush over how charming she is.

    "I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organzer, except that they have actual responsibilities."

    And small towns don't like candidates who talk about us one way in Scranton and another in San Francisco -- and calls them bitter.

    Wherever he goes, McCain is the same man!!!  Yeah, but he's not the same man in any given month.

    Media elites think I unqualified because I am not a member of the elite. {{crowd boos for a long time}}

    "Here's a little news flash" (in a high squeaky voice) "I'm not going to Washington to seek their good opinion, I'm going to Washington to serve the people of this great country."

    I am sad to say that the media elites are going to feel chastened by this, and report on how she wowed the crowd.

    She is going to DC to challenge the status quo.  Right. But gets more applause.

    "No one expects us to agree on everything" -- especially with my extremists views!

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    I don't think the general public (5.00 / 0) (#78)
    by Lil on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:50:02 PM EST
    will love her, she seems girlish to me. Too youngish or something.

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    There's that unfiortunate double X chromosome. (none / 0) (#190)
    by echinopsia on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:21:35 PM EST
    no, no There's a woman I would take in a NY minute (none / 0) (#202)
    by Lil on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:24:39 PM EST
    Sorry (5.00 / 8) (#123)
    by txpolitico67 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:00:00 PM EST
    i'm a die hard progressive and she sounds populist.  she hasn't mentioned choice issues at all.  she's speaking about reform and lowering taxes.

    she's going after Obama (without mentioning his name...SUPERB sales tactic...never mention your competitor by name) full-throttle.

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    I agree (5.00 / 3) (#136)
    by frenly on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:03:25 PM EST
    True, this is conservative populism... kinda of old school republicanism which arguably is what the republican party has gotten away from

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    you spoke way too soon (none / 0) (#133)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:02:46 PM EST
    Bombing? (5.00 / 9) (#144)
    by Radiowalla on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:04:15 PM EST
    Are you joking?
    She's hitting it out of the park.

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    Someone fixed her hair (none / 0) (#9)
    by litigatormom on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:35:39 PM EST
    But where is her rifle?

    She accepts the nomination!  Huge applause.

    Wonder if she'll be saying this in her speech:

    The Iraq War is a "task from God."

    Will she also lead a prayer for oil pipelines?

    Palin told graduating students of the church's School of Ministry, "What I need to do is strike a deal with you guys." As they preached the love of Jesus throughout Alaska, she said, she'd work to implement God's will from the governor's office, including creating jobs by building a pipeline to bring North Slope natural gas to North American markets.

    "God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.



    Once again, I'm finding Law & Order reruns (none / 0) (#22)
    by andgarden on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:40:00 PM EST
    more interesting.

    I'll watch the highlights tomorrow--maybe.

    You joined the (none / 0) (#51)
    by themomcat on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:45:18 PM EST
    save you dinner and sanity crowd. Welcome!

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    I promised not to talk about the family (none / 0) (#33)
    by steviez314 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:41:22 PM EST
    but jeez, shouldn't the baby be back at the hotel with a nanny?

    I mean, he's a baby, not a prop.

    heh, I always admire babies (5.00 / 4) (#50)
    by nycstray on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:45:17 PM EST
    they can sleep through anything and are allowed to scream and cry on subways when I want to and can't  ;)

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    Baby is sleeping (remarkably). (5.00 / 3) (#59)
    by oculus on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:46:47 PM EST
    Probably sedated (1.25 / 8) (#88)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:52:03 PM EST
    He hasn't cried once all day, despite all the hoopla.

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    Bad. (5.00 / 1) (#102)
    by oculus on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:55:14 PM EST
    Ever been around a Down syndrome (5.00 / 2) (#178)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:17:01 PM EST
    baby, Jeralyn?

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    no, don't they cry? (none / 0) (#181)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:19:34 PM EST
    I've never heard that.

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    Here baby... (2.00 / 1) (#145)
    by txpolitico67 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:04:18 PM EST
    "this cough syrup tastes SO good!"

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    Oh Jeralyn, maybe babyies with (none / 0) (#129)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:02:00 PM EST
    Down's Syndrome have different sleep patterns. I hope I'm not being ignorant/insensitive with that.

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    Obama has an infant? (5.00 / 0) (#84)
    by byteb on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:51:13 PM EST
    I didn't know that.

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    Nope. He IS a prop. n/t (2.00 / 1) (#44)
    by shoephone on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:44:02 PM EST
    This is surreal. (none / 0) (#41)
    by shoephone on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:43:02 PM EST
    She's a hockey mom pitbull. Let's elect her VP!

    Should not have had to follow Rudy (none / 0) (#43)
    by cannondaddy on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:43:40 PM EST
    Rudy speech has upstaged her so far.

    BTW the problem with McCain's resume:

    References

    George Bush
    Dick Cheney
    Karl Rove


    They called Obama the empty suit? (none / 0) (#45)
    by laila on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:44:16 PM EST
    nothing on the economy, nothing nothing at all...EMPTY SUIT...

    She's talking about (5.00 / 3) (#89)
    by litigatormom on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:52:29 PM EST
    how she cut government spending, and her line item veto. "As a chief executive, I can assure you it works."  AK as a surplus, she's vetoed half a billion in wasteful spending.

    She curbed abuses in earmarks, and she said thanks but no thanks to Bridge to Nowhere. But that was after she supported it.  And she kept the earmark to use for other things.

    She suspended oil taxes.  She fought for the largest infrastructure project in America -- oil pipeline to lead America to energy independence.  Will lead America one step farther away from dependence on foreign powers that do not have our interests at heart.

    Still the false meme: drilling will save us!!

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    And remember... (5.00 / 4) (#99)
    by Dadler on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:54:36 PM EST
    ...the citizens of Alaska get oil royalty checks.  Why doesn't she support royalty checks for citizens of other states that provide resources to our country?

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    vetoing? (none / 0) (#194)
    by laila on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:22:41 PM EST
    do you think that can actually help when we spend 10 billion a month?  vetoing is going to take care of the deficit?  She is an attack dog, and she lied on Obama's tax policy.  I have a feeling this is war, no more kid gloves just because she is a women thank God for that.  

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    her first line item veto (none / 0) (#214)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:35:08 PM EST
    cut funding for Covenant House, homes for unwed mothers.

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    most people don't understand? (none / 0) (#83)
    by Dadler on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:51:09 PM EST
    Can I ask you a question: what gives money any value whatsoever?  Honest query, curious to read your answer.

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    That isn't what I asked (none / 0) (#209)
    by Dadler on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:28:13 PM EST
    I asked what gives it value.  And the answer is it only has value because people BELIEVE it has value.  Just as when the dollar is crashing, what do they say?  That there is no "confidence" in it.  So when you say most people don't understand how the economy works, you are, in effect, saying that people don't understand what it means when their dollar buys much less.  They know precisely what it means: that they have no confidence in the economy.  Pocketbook economists are much better predictors than academic econmists.  

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    Is she hitting the audience chords (none / 0) (#72)
    by TomStewart on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:49:09 PM EST
    or is the audience pre-programmed? Really, they sound very canned to me.

    It's a bit of both (5.00 / 3) (#101)
    by litigatormom on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:54:58 PM EST
    the audience would cheer no matter what, but from a pure presentation point of view, she is getting better as the speech goes on.

    Now she's admitting that drilling won't solve all problems, but that is not an excuse to do nothing at all.  We'll build more pipelines, clean coal, nuclear, geothermal, wind, solar.

    Really?  Has McCain ever said that before?  Hasn't he voted against legislation on alternative energy sources?

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    Ditto on that. n/t (none / 0) (#82)
    by shoephone on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:51:00 PM EST
    they are Republican cheerleaders (none / 0) (#100)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:54:54 PM EST
    not representative of the entire public.

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    Crowd size (none / 0) (#122)
    by indiependy on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:59:42 PM EST
    Of course most would think that 20,000+ and 75,000+ people sound slightly different than the 10,000 or so they have at Xcel.

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    Great another oil person (none / 0) (#108)
    by indiependy on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:56:30 PM EST
    She sure is focusing a lot of her speech on black crude. I'm sure W is very proud.

    Obama makes nice speeches (none / 0) (#115)
    by litigatormom on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 09:58:19 PM EST
    but he hasn't passed a major law or reform.

    The gall of this woman.

    He can give an entire speech on the wars this country is fighting without ever using the word victory except with respect to his own campaign.

    When speech is over, what does our opponent plan to do when he's done parting the waters. Take your money, make government bigger, wants to give orders from Washington, Obama against more energy, he wants to forfeit victory that finally in sight, wants to meet with terrorists without preconditions, terrorists want to kill us and he's worried that someone won't read them their rights.

     

    I listened to her for 2 or 3 minutes (none / 0) (#140)
    by Edger on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:03:56 PM EST
    in amazement at her confidence, till I realized where it comes from.

    It's not just politics for her.

    She actually believes the crap she is saying about McCain.

    Even though she knows it's crap.

    Unbelieveable.

    She's operating in a state of "suspended disbelief".

    Wow! (none / 0) (#150)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:05:14 PM EST
    This woman is double plus awesome.  She is The Thrilla From Wasilla.

    She's great (none / 0) (#161)
    by elonepb on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:08:47 PM EST
    At reading other people's speeches.

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    Not to be confused (5.00 / 4) (#165)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:11:29 PM EST

    Not to be confused with BHO, Johnny Mac, or every other candidate speech.

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    That's pretty much what they all do (5.00 / 2) (#211)
    by Grace on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:31:25 PM EST
    She's just got better acting skills.  

    I'm surprised she wasn't nervous.  I sure would have been.  

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    Palin (none / 0) (#164)
    by txpolitico67 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:10:56 PM EST
    the imPaler.  Never underestimate those shifty republicans.

    Did McCain wear his orange Puma tie? (none / 0) (#174)
    by ding7777 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:16:04 PM EST


    Miranda (none / 0) (#176)
    by Gideon on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:16:39 PM EST
    Jeralyn,

    I missed what she said about Miranda. Can you (or anyone else) fill me in?

    Miranda (5.00 / 2) (#187)
    by Blowback on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:20:59 PM EST
    She mocked Obama wanting to read Al Queda their rights.

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    Best Moment of the Night. (none / 0) (#179)
    by Brillo on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:18:10 PM EST
    McCain coming out, stands next to Palin's husband, far from Palin, and turns to him before her when he tries to introduce her...  Seriously telling.

    Jeralyn, what did Palin say about Miranda? (none / 0) (#191)
    by Josey on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:21:44 PM EST
    >>>>Ok, stick a fork in her, she's done. She just bashed Miranda rights. My gloves are going to come off.

    I finally figured out (none / 0) (#198)
    by Chesserct on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:24:03 PM EST
    Who she resembles - Sally Fields.

    Pretty interesting music following (none / 0) (#207)
    by oculus on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:26:02 PM EST
    her speech.