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High Broderism, HCR And Reconciliation

Ezra really does not get it:

A lot of people are concerned that Sen. Olympia Snowe is going to have an outsized role on health-care reform. It's a fair concern. Indeed, it's a virtual certainty. But it's worth comparing Snowe's outsized role to the alternative: Ben Nelson, the 60th least-liberal Democrat, being in the driver's seat on health-care reform.

Ezra is simply wrong here. Ben Nelson, a Democrat (albeit a very very conservative one), does not provide High Broderist cover for capitulation on health care reform. Olympia Snowe (no question less conservative than Ben Nelson) does. "Losing Snowe" will be treated as a catastrophe in the Village. Having Ben Nelson oppose you, even to the point of joining a Republican filibuster, is not nearly so damaging.

If Ben Nelson opposes you to the point of filibuster, then a BETTER bill through reconciliation is possible. Nelson, knowing this, will be easier to deal with than Snowe, who knows she has more power than Nelson. Snowe in the room means Obama will capitulate to her and the Village will rejoice. Nelson in the room allows for the threat of reconciliation hanging over him. It just is not there for Snowe. We have seen this movie before. Apparently, Ezra has forgotten it already (more likely Ezra is unconcerned about the capitulations that Snowe will demand (on the public option.))

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    His most glaring oversight (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by lilburro on Thu Oct 15, 2009 at 11:30:10 AM EST
    is that Maine supports the PO and Snowe doesn't.  So don't give us this crap that the bill is going to be so much better because Maine is more liberal.

    Holy moly, how does Ezra miss this? (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Anne on Thu Oct 15, 2009 at 11:42:34 AM EST
    Thanks to your Broder reference, I am now thinking of young Ezra as Ezra "Baby Broder" Klein.

    Is Ezra Klein included on WH conference (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by oculus on Thu Oct 15, 2009 at 04:04:36 PM EST
    Calls?  Or does he have a direct line?

    is there (none / 0) (#3)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Oct 15, 2009 at 11:47:24 AM EST
    any cure for Obama's constant capitulation and overwhelming desperation for approval from Versailles?

    I would be LMAO at this and Obama if it didnt result in such crappy policy that does affect me.

    Is Obama capitulating to Snowe, (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by dk on Thu Oct 15, 2009 at 11:52:14 AM EST
    or is Snowe providing Obama and the Democratic party establishment with the cover to pass the kind of health care "reform" that they want?  IMO, it's the latter.  

    If Snowe weren't on the scene, another Republican would step up to fulfill the same function.

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    That could (none / 0) (#7)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Oct 15, 2009 at 12:16:36 PM EST
    be true too. Either way it results in bad policy.

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    If Snowe (none / 0) (#9)
    by Spamlet on Thu Oct 15, 2009 at 01:26:02 PM EST
    is "providing Obama and the Democratic party establishment with the cover to pass the kind of health care 'reform' that they want," it's scant cover indeed. Doesn't even amount to a fig leaf.

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    Exactly (none / 0) (#10)
    by ruffian on Thu Oct 15, 2009 at 02:12:04 PM EST
    Do they really think it is going to be seen as anything but a Dem plan? Ridiculous.

    I know that is what they are trying, but it won't fly.

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    Why (none / 0) (#5)
    by kaleidescope on Thu Oct 15, 2009 at 11:52:41 AM EST
    Can't Democrats like Russ Feingold (who has already said he would vote against a bill that doesn't have a robust public option) tell Reid they won't vote for cloture if the bill doesn't have a public option. Reid has already signaled that he won't be enforcing party discipline on this, otherwise Ben Nelson's threats would be empty.  So if Nelson can threaten to vote against cloture, why can't Feingold, Rockefeller and Wyden?

    Great idea (none / 0) (#6)
    by ruffian on Thu Oct 15, 2009 at 12:01:04 PM EST
    Of course, the way these things go is that the law of unintended consequences kicks in and Snowe get Collins and a few Repubs to break that filibuster, and Obama achieves his bipartisan dream for a lousy bill.

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    snowe says the public option (none / 0) (#8)
    by Turkana on Thu Oct 15, 2009 at 12:21:07 PM EST
    is a dealbreaker. ezra?

    and this is why (none / 0) (#12)
    by cpinva on Thu Oct 15, 2009 at 09:47:11 PM EST
    i'm neither a politician, or in the foreign service; i'd have a "chat" with nelson, suggesting how terrible it would be, if all the goodies he and his state enjoy, from the federal trough, were to disappear. i'd also point out that there's room, at the urinal next to lieberman's office, for his.

    but hey, that's just me, i don't get along or play well with others.