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Rockefeller: Dem Senators Thankful for His Stand Against BaucusCare

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Other Politics
Posted on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 03:50:47 PM EST
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Ryan Grim at HuffPo:

[Sen. Jay] Rockefeller (D-W.V.) said he has company in his reservations in the Senate. "A lot of them have come up to me and thanked me because I said what they're thinking. And because I sit next to Baucus and am senior, my saying it, I think, was good leverage and helpful and made it easier on people," Rockefeller told the Huffington Post.

And from our old friend Roland Burris -- "If there is no public option in the bill that hits the floor, said Sen. Roland Burris (D-Ill.), he'll vote against it. "I will oppose any bill that does not have a public option," Burris told the Huffington Post. Sen. Russ Feingold called BaucusCare "health care reform in name only."

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    Rockefeller: Dem Senators Thankful for His Stand Against BaucusCare | 24 comments (24 topical)

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    Good for Sen. Burris. (5.00 / 4) (#1)
    by oculus on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 03:56:06 PM EST
    This will look good on his mausoleum, no?

    Yes, his "Rol-aids" (none / 0) (#2)
    by KeysDan on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 04:06:00 PM EST
    are advising him well.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#5)
    by SGITR on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 04:10:07 PM EST
    good for Burris. But he certainly doesn't owe most so called progressives his vote. But it is good to see him vote his conscious. He didn't turn out to be as bad as people falsely made him out to be.

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    I was certain (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 04:58:29 PM EST
    you meant conscious, cuz judging by their votes you would think many senators and congress critters are UN-conscious.

    So Burris was just saying he would drink extra coffee before he votes.

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    Humm, yeah (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by SGITR on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 05:07:16 PM EST
    Maybe my misspell was just a Freudian slip triggered by my subconscious recognition that most Senators are comatose except for when raising money.

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    conscience (none / 0) (#6)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 04:11:24 PM EST


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    Yes conscience (none / 0) (#8)
    by SGITR on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 04:26:55 PM EST


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    His vote... (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 04:57:50 PM EST
    Maybe Burris was not conscious when he said how he would vote.

    But he is turning out to be a shining light among the farblunget.

    What a motley crew.

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    Is editing another's comment considered (none / 0) (#12)
    by oculus on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 05:02:29 PM EST
    "meta"?

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    No (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 05:11:15 PM EST


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    Short, sweet, and to the point. (none / 0) (#16)
    by oculus on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 05:22:54 PM EST


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    Watch out for Jay, though (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 04:07:18 PM EST
    He's another one that talks real, real good and then almost always caves.  He's been disappointment me for decades.

    I think this plan is DOA (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by andgarden on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 04:09:11 PM EST
    The question for me is whether is blows up the whole project.

    Ya think? (none / 0) (#7)
    by SGITR on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 04:20:25 PM EST
    For all the wasted pixels that have been typed on the Baucus Bill it never was going anywhere. As I initially commented the Baucus Bill always did represent the extreme far right of HCR. There was never a chance that much of it would come out of conference with the House. And much of it will disappear when merged with the HELP Bill.

    I don't see how a bill that will not survive intact the merging of two bills in the Senate and the conference process is going to blow up the entire project.

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    Doubt it's even going to survive (none / 0) (#20)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 11:35:34 PM EST
    the Finance Committee unscathed.  Far as I know, none of the other members of the "gang of six" are even on board with it.

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    Baucus Bill A Boon To Insurance Monopoly (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by norris morris on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 05:31:44 PM EST
    Baucus of the 6 Blue Dogs has always been a shill for the Insurance/Dru Monopolyg.

    The "Coops" have never been a model for success.
    Triggers, and faux Coops are a distraction aimed at confusing and manipulating the gullible or uninformed.

    Without a PO there cannot be honest brokers that come from the Insurance monopoly.  They will continue to screw us over. Baucus finds this a great opportunity to insure his wealth.  Imagine delivering millions of new users to Insurance Biggies who will have no competetion?

    Unless real competition exists, the Baucus plan delivers millions of new customers, and to inflict even more pain.....those in the $30k to $50,000 a year family needing subsidy will be subsidized by the taxpayers.

    Seniors have a Drug Plan that puts them in the "Donught Hole" quickly. The more meds needed by the aging, the faster they reach the $2750 cap. So for months, seniors pay the premiums but get no benefits whatsoever. They must then pay retail sky high drug prices which generally continues until the end of the calendar year.

     This miserable group of conservative democrats from our smallest states has been calling the shots.  Obama has miscalculated and really did not put up a fight when it mattered. He was too busy trying to avoid the debate and allowed republicans to control the Healthcare conversation.

    It is pure fantasy that anyone will get a real break without a  Public Option.  Baucus and the Blue Dogs do not stand for a really decent Reform bill, as it leaves the Insurance monopoly in control.

    Uh-oh, Jay's in trouble with Rahm (none / 0) (#11)
    by magster on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 05:01:59 PM EST
    he's been sent to Obama to discuss the Baucus bill. (Per TPMDC) (My link button is broken, anyone else having problems posting a link in a comment?)

    Stand your ground, Jello-Jay!

    Live on Ed Schultz (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by magster on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 05:10:14 PM EST
    Jay did not sound like he changed his tune at all.

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    Well, Rahm's in trouble with me (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Cream City on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 05:26:24 PM EST
    and come November 2010, I will have the power to let him know it, if he doesn't change his tune soon.

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    How so? (none / 0) (#21)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 11:36:15 PM EST


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    I mean what (none / 0) (#22)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 11:36:39 PM EST
    can you do to Rahm directly in 2010?

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    You're not naive (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Cream City on Thu Sep 17, 2009 at 07:13:53 AM EST
    so you must be bored.

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    Jeepers! (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu Sep 17, 2009 at 08:47:54 PM EST
    That's a nasty and totally uncalled for crack.

    I'm genuinely trying to figure out what you mean.  Rahm isn't up for election, obviously, nor is Obama.  I'm trying to figure out how voting or not voting, contributing or not contributing to congressional candidates is somehow getting even with Rahm, which is the only thing I can think of, but since that seems pretty lame, it doesn't seem like you.

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    This is great. Come to Jesus mtg. (none / 0) (#17)
    by oculus on Wed Sep 16, 2009 at 05:24:25 PM EST


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