MA fixed its healthcare problems much more satisfactorily than anything you have come up with, and they even claim that your pathetic legislation will weaken their good legislation.  Isn't it time to give the whole country MA style healthcare reform?

Obama's reaction so far reminds me of Bush in 2006 after the dems took over the house and the senate. He acknowledged a wupping, and then went right ahead doing things the way he always did. And he got the dems to roll over. And they're still rolling over.

Obama, who let this healthcare bill get watered down to the point where it became corporate welfare, will not see the Massachusetts vote as a protest against the proposed weakening of their healthcare. He will say that Brown needs to be consulted now. The implication to me is that this bill will become even more oriented toward benefiting corporations. This is the way Obama wants it.

You can't pay lip service to conservative ideas out of one corner of your mouth and then criticize the results of those ideas out of the other.

He wants to have it both ways -- as any play it safe politician does.

The old frames are not going to work - Obama can't just say stuff that isn't so and expect people to buy it anymore.  He can't be making backroom deals and playing footsie with Billy Tauzin and making the WH a special branch of Goldman Sachs and expect people to buy his line that Democrats are for the little guy.  He can't be extending and perpetuating Bush policies on privacy rights and state secrets and surveillance and indefinite detention or apparently condoning the coverup of deaths at Gitmo, and expect people to agree that Democrats stand up for the rule of law - not when they can see with their own eyes that he doesn't.

The president Obama has turned out to be is not the president people voted for, and the mistake Obama makes is in continuing to try to sell Candidate Obama when we've had a whole year to understand that Candidate Obama oversold himself - with help from the media and A-list bloggers and Clinton-haters - but this time, he won't be able to get the hell out of Dodge in another year to run for higher office, so he's going to have to, you know, actually work, and do more than just give pretty speeches that turn out to be mostly devoid of content once they're parsed.

But we will see - that appears to be the strategy they are going to use.  The current Senate bill will not pass the house by itself yet the Obama-Reid-Pelosi complex have shown no interest in backing off healthcare reform.