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Her best friend's boyfriend of 6 years is proposing to her friend tomorrow evening, and he has invited my daughter, his soon-to-be-fiancee's sister, his brothers and a couple of their good friends from college to surprise her and celebrate with them after the big moment. My daughter is beside herself with excitement, especially since my daughter and her boyfriend of almost-four years are planning to get engaged soon.
Her friend's boyfriend has a whole couple days of activities planned - I think she's going to have the best time.
Anyway, I warned her about the body scanners and the more-intrusive "pat-downs," so will be interested to hear what her experience is; she's a little nervous about it, so am hoping it isn't too traumatic.
I wonder sometimes, with all the enhanced scanning and pat-downs, whether the same kind of scrutiny is being given to checked bags and cargo; I have the distinct feeling that all we ever seem to do is react to things, instead of acting, but what do I know?
FWIW. Parent
I wonder if all the agents are down with the new "pat down" guidelines? The nice young woman that did mine at JFK (in the spring before the new enhanced BS) apologized as she did it. Can't see her checking with the new enhanced routine. Seems like it might be beyond her comfort level . . . Parent
As for the groping, no thanks. And I've heard anecdotal evidence from some women interviewed in the media that they feel almost "violated" with the new search. So I'm not sure if it's quite as simple for some as a one-and-done situation -- the psychological effects can linger for a long time.
I'd take the x-ray scan for now given this double-bind dilemma. But that's only because I don't fly often. If I were flying monthly, no way would I accept that much x-raying.
Nor would I accept the grope -- that's for my SO, and my female physician during the annual probe-n-grope. So, it would be choo-choo train or car for me. Parent
So that's some serious stuff. Parent
As for me personally, I have zero problem with the scanner and would choose that in preference to the groping. But I fly rarely. If I had to fly frequently for my job, I'd probably go for the groping. Parent
That can't be tolerated. Parent
Soros told those in attendance that he is "used to fighting losing battles but doesn't like to lose without fighting." "We have just lost this election, we need to draw a line," he said, according to several Democratic sources. "And if this president can't do what we need, it is time to start looking somewhere else."
"We have just lost this election, we need to draw a line," he said, according to several Democratic sources. "And if this president can't do what we need, it is time to start looking somewhere else."
in other humorous news, remember Obamas Fight the Smears website?
It was launched to great fanfare as a one-stop shop to counter the scurrilous slurs circulating among opponents and your misguided relatives. We don't know how effective it was in practice, but we liked the symbolism: A candidate who wasn't going to sit back and let smear merchants define the terms of debate. A campaign that would aggressively rebut the wild charges against it. The website hasn't been updated since November 2008. Because, as everybody knows, smears against Obama, Democrats, and their policies completely stopped the moment he was elected.
We don't know how effective it was in practice, but we liked the symbolism: A candidate who wasn't going to sit back and let smear merchants define the terms of debate. A campaign that would aggressively rebut the wild charges against it.
The website hasn't been updated since November 2008. Because, as everybody knows, smears against Obama, Democrats, and their policies completely stopped the moment he was elected.
Well he's 7 years old now and it took a couple of years for his parents to really understand what happened, but when Colton Burpo was four years he was having surgery in the hospital for a burst appendix. While he was in surgery he apparently had some sort of out of body experience and could see what his parents were doing. He witnessed that his dad was praying and his mom on her cellphone. Both parents say they have no clue how he knew that, but that it's absolutely true. And the story just gets more interesting from there. Apparently during the same surgery Colton went to Heaven where he recounts how he met his grandfather who he had never known, who he later recognized in photos. The interesting thing is that he didn't recognize photos of his grandfather as an old man with glasses, which is how everyone knew him, but rather as a young man. Colton's father literally had go find a photo of `Pop' as a young man before Colton was able to recognize him. Now that's pretty wild. But I must say what really surprised me was that Colton's father recounts how Colton, still 4 years old, told his mother "you had a baby die in your tummy didn't you", which completely shocked them both because they had never told him about their miscarriage. They asked him how he knew and he said that he met his sister in Heaven and she told him what happened. Dude.
Apparently during the same surgery Colton went to Heaven where he recounts how he met his grandfather who he had never known, who he later recognized in photos. The interesting thing is that he didn't recognize photos of his grandfather as an old man with glasses, which is how everyone knew him, but rather as a young man. Colton's father literally had go find a photo of `Pop' as a young man before Colton was able to recognize him. Now that's pretty wild.
But I must say what really surprised me was that Colton's father recounts how Colton, still 4 years old, told his mother "you had a baby die in your tummy didn't you", which completely shocked them both because they had never told him about their miscarriage. They asked him how he knew and he said that he met his sister in Heaven and she told him what happened.
Dude.
if they are making this up or coaching the kid it is beyond reprehensible. if they are not . . .
not sure how to finish that.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Lewis Black on The Daily Show made a good point about how easily we agreed to all of the other measures to fight the 'war on terror' - Patriot Act, two wars, torture, etc....and now when it comes to scanning grandma people are up on arms. I guess it has to come close to home for people to realize what we are giving up. In my defense I'm just as mad at all those other things. Parent
The only reason
"Don't touch my junk" is probably an incomprehensible idea to them
The Japanese have less of a tradition of course in civil liberties generally, and are much more inclined to be obedient to authority and not protest. But they might also have a longer tradition of male-female non-sexual interaction -- doctors-patients of the opposite sex, communal public baths in the buff, etc, which would make a female security person thoroughly patting down a male mostly a non or minor issue. Parent
I'm a guy and I strongly suspect I would have reacted very similarly to the fellow who videod his search experience. For me it's a matter of maintaining bodily integrity, personal space. I don't like people who get too close physically during regular conversation (typical American; other cultures have a tradition of less distance). I don't like people who have a habit of putting their paws on my shoulder or lapel as they converse -- what we fondly refer to as the Johnson Treatment. So, if that bothers me, imagine my reaction if some stranger tries to give me a Johnson Plus Treatment.
This is a very stupid, unnecessarily invasive and probably ineffective policy by TSA. I suspect as more learn about the gritty details in the media or first hand at the airport, some of the early ridiculously pro-policy surveys will begin to turn, and by not too long from now, have flipped overwhelmingly against. And unfortunately the Obama admin and Dems will pay a price politically as word about this spreads and people from both sides of the aisle strongly object. Parent
They rival the Germans for being the freakiest of freaks, and making the typically non-sexual sexual.
All that being said, only four types of people have touched me where these TSA gropers are groping...my parents when I was a kid, physicians, police, or lovers. Parent
is the TSA being run by voyeurs Parent
"There is no evidence these new body scanners make us more secure. But there is evidence that former Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff made money hawking these full body scanners," Poe said. He went on to explain that Chertoff, who served under President George W. Bush, had given interviews promoting the scanners while he was "getting paid" to sell them. For once there is bipartisan outrage. "[T]he populace is giving up more rights in the name of alleged security. These body scanners are a violation of the Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable searches and seizures ... There must be a better way to have security at airports than taking pornographic photographs of our citizens, including children, and then giving apparent kickbacks to political hacks." link
He went on to explain that Chertoff, who served under President George W. Bush, had given interviews promoting the scanners while he was "getting paid" to sell them.
For once there is bipartisan outrage.
"[T]he populace is giving up more rights in the name of alleged security. These body scanners are a violation of the Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable searches and seizures ... There must be a better way to have security at airports than taking pornographic photographs of our citizens, including children, and then giving apparent kickbacks to political hacks." link
As good or better than a game of Grand Theft Auto has police state rage therapy. Parent
"Mr. Pres, did you sign off on Wall St's continued fleecing of the nation?"
"You're damn right I did!" Parent
and after all that you didnt get mad that while the country circles the drain the republican leaders stand up and say making Obama a one term president is their number one agenda item.
Message to the Tea Party - What took you so long to get angry?
You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President. You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq . You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed. You didn't get mad . . . .
You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq .
You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.
You didn't get mad . . . .
The defense has argued repeatedly that DeLay was not involved in the PAC's day-to-day operations and, as such, did not know about the swap until after the fact. But yesterday, DeLay's lawyer seemed to prove otherwise. According to the Houston Chronicle, his lawyer introduced scheduling calendars in an attempt to show that DeLay only had meetings with the PAC's director, Jim Ellis, weeks after the swap happened. But he missed something: DeLay and Ellis attended the same meeting just hours after Ellis had taken out a blank check from the PAC to give to the RNC for the swap. Prosecutors, however, pointed that out. From the Chronicle: "I just missed that one," DeGuerin said sheepishly afterward, noting he only had obtained the calendar on Sunday. "The (Sept. 11) meeting was with a bunch of other people."
The defense has argued repeatedly that DeLay was not involved in the PAC's day-to-day operations and, as such, did not know about the swap until after the fact.
But yesterday, DeLay's lawyer seemed to prove otherwise. According to the Houston Chronicle, his lawyer introduced scheduling calendars in an attempt to show that DeLay only had meetings with the PAC's director, Jim Ellis, weeks after the swap happened.
But he missed something: DeLay and Ellis attended the same meeting just hours after Ellis had taken out a blank check from the PAC to give to the RNC for the swap. Prosecutors, however, pointed that out. From the Chronicle:
"I just missed that one," DeGuerin said sheepishly afterward, noting he only had obtained the calendar on Sunday. "The (Sept. 11) meeting was with a bunch of other people."
For example, Wolffe reports that during the negotiations over the health-care bill, "Speaker Pelosi was so volcanic that much of the White House strategy was shaped in terms of how to deal with her."
What does it have in it that I don't already know though? Obama's not a diehard partisan? The public plan a priority? Etc etc?
At the Atlanta airport, a couple of months ago, I told the TSA agent that I would opt for the "personal check" rather than go through the x-ray machine. The agent, with some umbrage, informed me that it was not x-ray, and besides he would have to get his supervisor for the check. The check was non-sensical and non-sensual, but still, I think I will stick with the x-ray machine.
"Travelers should know that while pies are permitted through the security checkpoint," numerous other foods, including "creamy dips and spreads," gravy and gift baskets with salsa and jams are not, according to the Transportation Security Administration. A more complete list of foods prohibited from passing through checkpoints can be found on the travel tips section of the agency's website, www.tsa.gov.
I am sooo glad I am not going anywhere next week. Parent
what's up with the salsa also?
cruises are beginning to look pretty good :) Parent
I mean, I guess in theory, if someone is crazy enough to put explosives in his underwear, someone else might be crazy enough to do it with a tampon.
It's the logistics of checking this that gets me..... Parent
Survivors get their comeuppance in the order they would have died in the carnage. But the stupid ones generally go first. So here you can place your bets on: Nick, his girlfriend, their two friends (she's okay but he's a total jock), a racist redneck, a nice security guard (Mykelti `Bubba from Forrest Gump' Williamson), a mechanic, a cowboy, and a mom who puts tampons in her kids' ears.
(I don't watch DWTS other than fragments clinging around the edges of other crapola I record.)
except for, you know, 95% of the budget. isnt there something that has to do with poor people or mexicans that we can cut?
Deficit Proposal Draws Mixed Review
Roughly 70% were uncomfortable with making cuts to programs such as Medicare, Social Security and defense in order to reduce the deficit, with 27% saying they were comfortable. And nearly 60% said they were uncomfortable with raising tax revenue through such measures as boosting the gasoline tax, limiting deductions on many home mortgages and altering corporate taxation.
And nearly 60% said they were uncomfortable with raising tax revenue through such measures as boosting the gasoline tax, limiting deductions on many home mortgages and altering corporate taxation.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: She's not going to run. It's The Art of War. The reason she's saying this is cause she knows she can't win. She knows she's got to keep her name out in the press. She knows her poll numbers are dropping. She knows that she was humiliated in her home state of Alaska. She knows that Christine O'Donnell did not work out well. And so--I hate to say it--it's about money.
vs an actual poll conducted of Hot Air readers. which is not the most right wing site on the web by a long shot. several interesting numbers in that poll but the one that relates here is that Palin is second only to Christie with with 29 and 23% respectively and third is Romney with 6%
Airport passenger screening measures have become a touchy issue in the U.S. in the past week, but in the past year the controversial measures have detected more than 130 prohibited, illegal or dangerous items that otherwise would have made it onto airplanes, the Transportation Security Administration says.
would love to know more about these dangerous items. what was the nature of these dangerous items? nail clippers? assault rifles? what?
you will prob find more "prohibited" items vs illegal/dangerous ;). and really, with all of the air travelers in one year, they only found 130 items? Parent
It just dawned on me now that our bring your stash from home on domestic flights days are probably over...my junk was my spot! Parent
it was a golden moment. that would now probably get me a cavity search. Parent
but this morning it was stirring and inspirational.
CHICAGO - More than 45 million Americans, or 20 percent of U.S. adults, had some form of mental illness last year, and 11 million had a serious illness, U.S. government researchers reported on Thursday. Young adults aged 18 to 25 had the highest level of mental illness at 30 percent, while those aged 50 and older had the lowest, with 13.7 percent, said the report by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration or SAMHSA.
Young adults aged 18 to 25 had the highest level of mental illness at 30 percent, while those aged 50 and older had the lowest, with 13.7 percent, said the report by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration or SAMHSA.
It's not over yet in Alaska, or so Joe Miller argued in federal court last night. He filed a motion to an existing lawsuit to issue a temporary injunction against the state to stop it from certifying Lisa Murkowski as the winner in the Senate race, claiming that the state started counting the write-in ballots a week early, which left him unprepared to challenge ballots: