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By Big Tent Democrat, Section Media
Posted on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 01:26:29 PM EST
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At daily kos, Jed Lewison writes:

Apparently, the GOP's definition of "getting their country back" involves putting the health care lobby back in charge of health care policy:

Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) has picked a former health care lobbyist to serve in an all-purpose role on the House Energy and Commerce Committee and also hired other longtime panel aides as his top lawyers, according to sources off Capitol Hill.

Maybe the name Liz Fowler rings a bell? More . . .

Is it really only bad when the other "team" does it?

FTR, I never cared about this nonsense, not when it was Liz Fowler or Peter Orzag going to Citi or any of it. Cursing "the lobbyists" is the phoniest of political ploys. This is ridiculous CREW level nonsense. YMMV.

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    Which leads me to believe that (5.00 / 5) (#5)
    by Anne on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 02:21:39 PM EST
    if a Republican president and a Republican administration and a Republican-majority Congress had done some of what we've seen from Democrats, ol' Jed would have long since succumbed to terminal apoplexy.

    I really, REALLY hate it when people prize loyalty over the need for good policy.

    It would be good to get back to policy (none / 0) (#10)
    by MKS on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 07:13:51 PM EST


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    so (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Left of the Left on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 08:01:36 PM EST
    when does the good policy start?

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    let me guess (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Left of the Left on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 08:03:21 PM EST
    when we stop trying to push Obama, right?

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    I don't see much trying to push Obama (none / 0) (#21)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 28, 2010 at 12:56:06 PM EST
    Just how is anyone here trying to push Obama?

    I see the same post over and over again.....

    Where is the discussion here of why social security is not in danger?  Of how activists are going to push their Senators to vote against change to Social Security.

    I don't hear any of that......There isn't muich discussion--at least in the comments--about policy.

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    well (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by Left of the Left on Tue Dec 28, 2010 at 03:58:13 PM EST
    by criticizing him. Fairly standard stuff. Let me break it down this way:

    Group A are the dems that by and large have had his back. Because everything will one day payoff, just wait. Who cares what horrible policies are implemented, or allowed to continue. It's the end that matters, and cannibalizing dems serves no purpose, since the alternative would be worse.

    Group B are not just wrong, but a portion are nuts, doubt his religion and that he's even a citizen. Are so illogical that they refuse to support anything, even policies they once put out themselves.

    Which group does he continually work to win over and please?

    He doesnt have to work to please you MKS, he already has you, and where else would you go? Your silence allows him to safely assume that. But please keep trying to get people to focus on the real problem - congress. All the while ignoring how the WH has undermined (DOMA) and will continue to undermine ("entitlement reform") democratic causes.

    btw, your belief that DADT spells the end of the religious right is naive. They have been a minority, but the reason they've been influential is they are a very vocal minority. That wont change. Abortion has been the law of the land for how long now? They lost that battle years ago, and they havent stopped.

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    This is (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 06:31:33 PM EST
    why the orange has become very tiresome in a lot of ways.

    Nonsense (2.00 / 1) (#9)
    by MKS on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 07:12:48 PM EST
    Big Orange has significant Obama criticism....

    And Obama criticism is all that many here seem to be interested in....

    How about doing something construtive like explaining how Republican views of Social Security's demise are incorrect?

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    Republican's view? (5.00 / 10) (#11)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 07:33:30 PM EST
    Just Republicans?

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    And, so what is the next step? (none / 0) (#22)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 28, 2010 at 12:58:14 PM EST


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    Shouldn't that be Obama's (5.00 / 3) (#12)
    by observed on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 07:34:03 PM EST
    job?? Or does he need Clinton's help.

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    Oof! (none / 0) (#16)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Dec 28, 2010 at 12:04:04 AM EST
    Ten points.  At least.

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    It does not matter if it is Obama's job (none / 0) (#23)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 28, 2010 at 12:59:53 PM EST
    Let's just assume for purposes of discussion that Obama is a Republican.

    So what do you do to save Social Security?

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    Vote him out (none / 0) (#24)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 28, 2010 at 01:48:36 PM EST
    if he's a Republican, of course.

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    Too late (none / 0) (#25)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 28, 2010 at 01:59:16 PM EST
    What do you do now to save Social Security?--if that is really your objective.

    If, however, your objective is like McConnell's--to make sure Obama is a one term President--then drumming up support for a Primary opponent would make sense.  Won't happen, though.  

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    Obama (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Dec 28, 2010 at 07:46:19 AM EST
    is promoting that same view and has even repeated the GOP verbatim so attacking them is the same as attacking Obama.

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    Have you not... (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 28, 2010 at 07:58:41 AM EST
    ben reading other blogs or watching MSNBC?  Of course things are bad when Republicans do it, but if the Democrats do the same thing it's wonderful.

    That's how you play the game and why no real conversations take place and why we can't move forward - it's all about "gotcha".

    Interesting. As I recall, the Baucus (none / 0) (#1)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 01:42:27 PM EST
    HCR bill was drafted by his staffer formerly employed by health care industry.  

    Um yeah (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 01:54:01 PM EST
    :iz Fowler was her name. I guess it dosn't ring a bell for you.

    You never click links do you?

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    Ouch. (Sorry.) (none / 0) (#3)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 01:58:21 PM EST


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    Although, failure to click links reflects (2.00 / 1) (#4)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 02:02:20 PM EST
    my interest in BTD's original thoughts as opposed to the linkage.

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    Nice try, but (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 11:53:47 PM EST
    no cigar. ;-)


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    Agreed. (none / 0) (#6)
    by masslib on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 02:54:56 PM EST
    It's a bunch of phony posturing.

    and how many of these (none / 0) (#7)
    by observed on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 03:10:26 PM EST
    cheerleaders are on salary?

    BTD has developed such a high level (none / 0) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Dec 28, 2010 at 02:32:11 AM EST
    of specialized acronym usage, he's like hanging out with a political jarhead :)

    Is this it? (none / 0) (#20)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 28, 2010 at 08:08:40 AM EST
    Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

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