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Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) has signed Sen. Michael Bennet's (D-CO) letter calling on the leadership to pass a health care public option via reconciliation.

Reid says he is for it as well, but obviously since the letter is addressed to him, he is not signing it. Surely that is sufficient critical mass for offering an amendment including a public option to a reconciliation bill that must be enacted for passage of the health bills.

An up or down vote on the public option might produce a 75-25 loss (it also might produce passage), but at least then we'll know where we stand.

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    Do you really think that the (D) senators against (none / 0) (#1)
    by me only on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 04:38:42 PM EST
    it really, really want to go on record being against it?

    The other issue is that someone has to pay for it, which means it is a little more complicated than just putting a public option out there.  It requires funding.  There is a good chance that this letter is all window dressing.

    War requires funding? (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by cawaltz on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 04:48:01 PM EST
    I don't recall anyone going all goo goo over that fact before Congress deciding to act on that fact.

    I get so sick of hearing all the concern about funding health care when the government provided billion dollar bailouts for private companies(with little to no questions asked) and has funded a two front war(without even bothering to question in the case of Iraq). Now all of a sudden a program is being considered that might actually benefit the people paying taxes and they want to talk fiscal responsibility? Pu-lease.

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    The war will end and so (none / 0) (#7)
    by me only on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 04:58:09 PM EST
    will the funding.  The Vietnam War is not a line item in the budget anymore, but Medicare and Medicaid are.

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    We're still paying (none / 0) (#8)
    by cawaltz on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 05:06:52 PM EST
    for expeditions over to Korea and a whole myriad of other places where wars have been completed so forgive me if I don't start any ticker tape parades because you have declared they aren't a line item. Last I heard we were going to be having bases over there, do you think the money fairy pays for them?

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    How many bases do we have in Vietnam? (none / 0) (#9)
    by me only on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 05:11:51 PM EST
    Right, none.

    Maybe we should leave South Korea tomorrow.  Trust me, given a choice I would vote to defund all such bases.  That won't happen.  

    Your argument appears to be that since we waste money in one area it is okay to spend money in another area.  Color me unconvinced by said argument.

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    Well (none / 0) (#25)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 08:54:26 PM EST
    considering the fact that there are goign to be permanent bases in Iraq I dont think the Vietnam comparison is apt on that account.

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    Don't put words in my mouth (none / 0) (#29)
    by cawaltz on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 10:04:16 PM EST
    I wouldn't consider providing health care to every citizen a waste. Considering the fact that Medicare has been effective at negotiating prices I actually think it would provide better return on my tax dollars then a base in Iraq. Then again, I don't appear to have the same problem you have in believing government programs are a "waste." I like roads to travel on, safe food, decent schools for the next generation, and even when necessary defense.

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    Medicare and Medicaid (none / 0) (#13)
    by MKS on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 06:07:53 PM EST
    are good programs....

     I wonder how much conservatives will really fight against them....

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    The problems conservatives (none / 0) (#14)
    by BTAL on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 06:15:23 PM EST
    have with Medicare and Medicaid is the same with SS.

    It is how those programs get bastardized from how they are originally sold to the public.

    We long ago learned the "camel's nose under the tent" game.

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    Doesn't answer the question (none / 0) (#15)
    by MKS on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 06:24:31 PM EST
    if you want to cut or repeal.....

    If we can afford a trillion dollar boondoggle in Iraq, then we can afford health care reform....

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    Please don't (none / 0) (#16)
    by BTAL on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 06:43:17 PM EST
    play the strawman game.  It does nothing to address any real issue.

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    If only it were a strawman (none / 0) (#18)
    by MKS on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 07:25:36 PM EST
    Not according to Ryan and Pawlenty.....

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    Can we have a real discussion (none / 0) (#19)
    by BTAL on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 07:35:13 PM EST
    or do you want to just toss out talking points and strawmans?

    In this thread are some sincere questions and statements regarding the PO.

    Please step up to the plate.

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    Not interested (none / 0) (#47)
    by MKS on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 12:01:30 PM EST
    They won't (none / 0) (#20)
    by waldenpond on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 07:40:23 PM EST
    Conservatives don't want to cut anything no matter how loud the few holler, no matter the excuse.  Look, it's even in nifty chart form.  :)

    Salon... conflicted

    Good stuff.

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    Actually (5.00 / 0) (#27)
    by christinep on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 09:21:03 PM EST
    based upon both anecdotal and systemic evidence, Medicare and Medicaid are good programs in that they serve the constituents they were intended to serve and are highly valued by those human beings. My real concern these days is directed to the erosive and pernicious effect of the recent, loud brand of libertarianism (aka me first, me second, and me third and reprise survival of the fittest) springing up in unusual places these days.

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    Ugh (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 04:43:11 PM EST
    I wish you would stop writing the same dumb stuff.

    Even the watered down version of the PO save $25 billion over 10 years.

    Parent

    Government programs are always inefficient pork (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by andgarden on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 04:48:32 PM EST
    That's why we make people hire their own police and build their own roads.

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    Most law enforment spending (none / 0) (#6)
    by me only on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 04:57:01 PM EST
    is state and local.  The state and local taxes (at least in my state) are broadly based (no state income tax, high sales tax.)  Most people have some "skin in the game."

    I am so glad you were a strong proponent of the bridge to nowhere...

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    Utterly, completely totally fabricated numbers (none / 0) (#5)
    by me only on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 04:53:45 PM EST
    go look at the original estimates for Medicare and Medicaid.

    Medicare (hospital insurance). In 1965 the estimated cost in 1990, $9 billion, actual cost $67 billion.

    Medicare (entire program). In 1967, the estimated cost of $12 billion in 1990, actual Medicare spending in 1990 was $110 billion.

    At least in the case of the Medicare catastrophic coverage benefit it was repealed when the updated (closer to real) cost was revised upward by  a factor of 2.

    You can call me dumb all you want.  I rather that then be left with the bill.

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    Those are the issues that keep getting (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by BTAL on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 05:15:21 PM EST
    swept under the PO rug.

    One big "promise" of the PO proponents was that it will be self-sustaining based on premiums.

    To that I toss the BS flag on the table.  To make that happen, even allowing 1/2 the argument that govt overhead will be less than privates+profits the premiums will not be much less than they are now.  

    The second part is there is no answer when asking what will the govt do when the PO goes into the red.  Let it fail or bail it out?  

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    You could be safe in saying (none / 0) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 08:06:57 PM EST
    that the PO premiums would be at least 30% less than the current private insurance premiums simply because there will be on million dollar bonuses being handed out. Frankly, I could pay what i have now and get better coverage with medicare than I can on the private market. Do you think there's a reason teh insurance companies are against the PO? Of course, they don't want to compete.

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    Raise taxes (none / 0) (#31)
    by cal1942 on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 12:35:21 AM EST
    end of discussion.

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    Here's (none / 0) (#21)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 08:04:09 PM EST
    the thing you never consider: the risk pool. The risk pool for medicare is high and therefore the costs are high because you are dealing with people who have more medical problems. You expand the risk pool and you lower your costs to everyone. I'm really tired of people who don't know how insurance works trying to discuss this. Study some actuarial tables and get back to me.

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    Apparently you don't understand medicine (none / 0) (#23)
    by me only on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 08:42:18 PM EST
    The CBO cannot account for the cost for curing an disease that we cannot currently treat.  If the PO had been scored 25 years ago it would not have included the cost of treating AIDS because there was no treatment.  In the last 25 years we have created treatments and they are not cheap.  So the cost rises.  A bunch of people seem to think this is inflationary.  It is NOT.  Inflation is the cost of the same good or service rising over time.  The problem with health care is that we are dealing with new treatments all the time.  While a few treatments are more cost effective than older treatments (arthriscopic surgery is cheaper than conventional surgery because the patient can go home much sooner) most are very expensive because it is so costly to bring them to market.

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    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 08:52:50 PM EST
    and who is more likely to have these ailments? The elderly due to their age hence the risk pool. Those same surgeries can happen to the population at large but to a much smaller percentage therefore spreading your risks and your costs over a larger population base.

    The fact taht treatments are not cheap has a lot to do with the pharmaceutical companies who do not want to compete. There are many countries that deliver healthcare at a better cost than we do here and at teh same quality.  

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    Not the same quality (none / 0) (#26)
    by me only on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 09:13:34 PM EST
    only the people who want to use life expectancy as a measure of health care believe this.  There are several studies that show that 5 and 10 year survival rates in the US are among the best in the world.

    Another issue never addressed by those looking to foreign systems is compensation.  Doctors are MUCH better compensated in the US than in foreign countries.  (The average physician in Sweden makes $90K/year).  Those countries have an entirely different education system structure so that doctors do not graduate from medical school with tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt.  Most established doctors want the insurance side to be easier, but want what private insurance pays them.  That is why many of them refuse Medicaid patients.  Other refuse even Medicare patients because they are not compensated "enough."

    AIDS disproportionately affects the young.  So does MS and ALS.  Even asthma.  There are many chronic diseases that can be survived for 20 - 40 years that people are born with.

    Other medical treatments also affect the young more.  ACL repairs for instance.  I know at least 2 people who cannot afford the surgery (both suffered the injury in their 20s).  They both joke that once they are 65 they will have Medicare pay for it.  So the notion that the 15 million or so people that don't have health insurance who actually want it, but cannot afford are going to generate cost savings is doubtful.

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    Medicine is a business in this country; (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Anne on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 11:05:54 PM EST
    doctors and hospitals compete for patients whose insurance companies will pay for treatment.

    I live in an area where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a medical provider (Baltimore); the hospitals all have specialty centers for cancer, women's health, cardiac care, orthopaedics, sports medicine, and so on.  This kind of construction, equipment and staffing is enormously expensive and the only way to justify it, to cover the overhead and then some, is to make sure you have plenty of people to treat.  That means promotions and PR and sometimes, it means doing procedures people don't need - like arterial stents.

    Look at the countries that offer single-payer, socialized or hybrid systems; they spend less money and get better outcomes.  The Japanese go to the doctor more than people in any other country, and yet, their care is inexpensive, there is significantly less drain on the economy, and by generally recognized measures, they are healthier. I do not think it is unreasonable to consider the beneficial effect of not being financially and mentally stressed by the worry that not having insurance high insurance brings, or that of premiums and co-pays that keep going up and up and up.

    If one of the problems here is that doctors have to make so much money to cover the cost of their education, then let the government subsidize that education and training; isn't that preferable to continuing to pump billions of dollars into the insurance companies?

    Where we spend our money has a great deal to do with what we get for it, and it ought to be obvious to even Congress that it isn't patients who are driving the cost of care through the roof, and the answer isn't to keep cutting care in order to produce an imcreasing profit margin for insurance companies.

    Unless you are committed to a Wall Street-controlled business model that treats individuals as profit centers.

    Which seems like the choice the Congress and the president prefer, even as they sign meaningless letters of support for something they call "the public option," but which no one wants to define.

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    Of course Medicine is a business (none / 0) (#38)
    by me only on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 08:31:24 AM EST
    feeding people is a business.  Clothing people is a business.

    As for as the profit margin of insurance companies.  In the latest quarter they made an average of 3.4%.  About the same as Home Improvement Centers.

    Of course I am committed to a model that treats individuals as profit centers.  That is capitalism.  Unfortunately in this country we have forgotten that capitalism works best when there is an independent agent regulating them.  When the government bailed the banks out, did it fine all the senior management for fiduciary stupidity?  Naw.  Couldn't do that.  Some of these Washington politicians might lose their comfy seat someday.  They have to go somewhere to make their millions (I won't name names).

    If your beef is capitalism, well Anne we are diametrically opposed.

    Harold Ford.

    Harold Ford.

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    Geez (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by cal1942 on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 01:30:38 AM EST
    Who gives a damn what doctors are paid.  Answer. Doctors and nobody else.  The AMA has been jacking up the rest of the country for years to keep very high compensation for doctors.

    What you're whining about regarding the cost of education is the result of diminishing tax support for higher education.  Constantly lowering taxes has placed an ever greater burden on the individual  student/family. There's an easy solution to that problem.  Raise taxes.

    And you're dead wrong about the young costing enormous sums to treat.  The examples you cite affect a very small percentage of the population.

    Hell, I didn't even bother to have annual physicals until I was in my late 50s.

    Personally I could care less what doctors are paid.  If your doctor threatens to quit practicing medicine because of pay then I suggest you get another doctor.

    For that matter, if American doctors don't feel they're adequately compensated I suggest we open the borders and allow a larger number of foreign doctor into the country.  If factory jobs and an increasing number of white collar jobs can be outsourced to cut labor costs then I suggest that we allow more foreign doctors into the countrty to help cut labor costs.  We could start by inviting those underpaid Swedish doctors you're talking about.

    Another ridiculous situation regarding doctors is their reluctance/refusal to treat Medicare and Medicaid patients.  If lawyers take on cases pro bono then doctors should be required by law to treat at least some Medicare and Medicaid patients along with their other clients.

    We've been coddling high income people in this country for far, far too long.  As a nation we're repaid by their continuing demand for ever higher pay, ever lower taxes and in the case of doctors, refusal to extend their services to the whole of the community.

    Finally.  Our objective should be to treat everyone regardless of their income or station in life.  How we pay for it is another matter that can be dealt with just as we deal with any other priority.  We've (unfortunately) decided to be policmen for the world and it's paid for in spite of the ungodly cost.  We always seem to be able to afford whatever we deem to be a necessity.  

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    Ah, the heart of the matter (none / 0) (#36)
    by me only on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 08:11:36 AM EST
    Another ridiculous situation regarding doctors is their reluctance/refusal to treat Medicare and Medicaid patients.  If lawyers take on cases pro bono then doctors should be required by law to treat at least some Medicare and Medicaid patients along with their other clients.

    Ahh, I see this is not about health care.  This is about forcing people to do things and not adequately paying them.  I guess when they refuse there is always the Gulags.  Or maybe you would skip that and just have the Killing Fields or a Cultural Revolution.

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    You wouldn't know (none / 0) (#39)
    by cal1942 on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 08:33:48 AM EST
    what it was about if it bit you in the fanny.  You're clueless.

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    The (none / 0) (#34)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 05:00:25 AM EST
    fact that doctors are loaded with debt is another fundamental problem with our system. Continuing to make excuses and feed the monster does nothing to solve the problem. Actually many doctors don't want what private insurance companies pay them either. They don't think it's enough either. They want to be able to set their rates and have everybody pay that rate if the truth be known.

    You're even admitting with your last sentence that our systems sucks and yes it does.

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    Higher/medical education costs (none / 0) (#35)
    by BTAL on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 06:47:50 AM EST
    are similar to rising HC costs with prices (tuition) driven by demand fueled by student loans.  Universities are charging more and more because there is a huge pool of money to feed the beast.  Next we will be hearing that higher eduction is a right also.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#41)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 09:10:59 AM EST
    we already know that conservatives think that no one should have rights in this country except them. The priviledged few are the only ones worthy of any rights.

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    Have you priced autism therapy? (none / 0) (#28)
    by pfish on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 09:58:07 PM EST
    That's strictly for children under ten and JESUS is it expensive.

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    Insurance (none / 0) (#33)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 04:55:29 AM EST
    doesnt cover autism so it's a moot point.

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    Medicare didn't (none / 0) (#37)
    by me only on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 08:13:16 AM EST
    originally have a drug benefit either.  As BTD always points out the PO is the camel's nose so that it can be expanded to cover whatever.

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    "The" Public Option? (none / 0) (#40)
    by Anne on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 08:53:08 AM EST
    Is there only one now?  Guess that would be the House version, then, because it's the only one that is actually included in legislation that has been passed by a legislative body.

    And is it really the camel's nose?

    * The public option, diminished as it has been to the point where it could only include 2 percent of Americans by 2019, would not have enough market clout to "keep the insurers honest." The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has already concluded that the public option would not offer real competition to private insurers, and that its premiums would even have to be higher than private premiums. It would not be available until 2013 through the new Health Insurance Exchange, and then only to the uninsured and some employees of small businesses without coverage. Moreover, such Exchanges have no track record of success. After 15 years of experience in California, that Exchange failed, mostly due to lack of pricing power and adverse selection by attracting sicker enrollees.

    Link

    Read the rest of the analysis in the linked article, and consider reading more of the many other posts and articles on the website, if for no other reason than to get information that simply has not been allowed into the public arena - via the Congress or the media - for honest consideration and discussion.

    And if you think that embargo on information has been done in furtherance of the public's interests and medical and financial well-being, you might want to think again.

    Parent

    Anne, (none / 0) (#45)
    by me only on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 10:47:32 AM EST
    And if any Public Option is passed, is that it?  Are you then going to pack your bags and say "mission accomplished?"  Even if you said "yep that's it", I wouldn't believe you.  Once there is a public option, then it will be expand the public option, then subsidize it.  And when it still doesn't meet expectations the answer will be single payer.

    It's like "tax the rich."  The 16th amendment was passed on the notion that only the rich would pay it.  The AMT was passed because of 69 households who didn't pay tax.  It now affects millions of people.  Nothing is ever enough, until it kills the golden goose.

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    First of all, even if the House version (none / 0) (#46)
    by Anne on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 11:46:14 AM EST
    of a PO becomes part of the overall bill and is signed into law, it won't be available for at least three years, during which time it is possible that the Democratic majority may evaporate and a Republican president (even more Republican than Obama) may be elected, leaving the door open to killing the PO before it ever goes live.  If you believe any effort will be made to improve the PO between now and its start date, I want what you're smoking.

    You seem to be suggesting that we need to take this detour that leads right back to failure before we entertain the idea of implementing a single-payer system - how many more years will that be, considering it will be three more before any PO is active?  Ten?  Fifteen?

    As long as we're experimenting, and cooling our heels anyway while we wait for the PO to be available, why not expand Medicare to include those between 55 and 64, now, and see how that works?  Do we have anything to lose by doing that?

    I don't believe WE do, but we aren't the ones all of this is being done for, is it?


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    Why? (none / 0) (#49)
    by me only on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 02:36:14 PM EST
    Anne, the wealthiest group in America is the oldest segments of society.  My father is somewhat embarrassed by the fact that for half of his career he paid half the rate on SS that we expect from teenagers today.  Medicare is already the greatest challenge that we have going forward in terms of massive debt.  My father pays much less for his medical care, even though he and my mother consume more than my family (me, wife, 2 children).

    People constantly complain about the standard of living in the US.  Part of the reason that hourly wages have not been rising is because we have increased employment taxes.  The company is paying more, but the worker is not receiving it.  (There are many other factors as well, but this is real and can be easily quantified).  Now the answer is to subsidize the older segment, again.  Guess where that tax will come from (an increase in the Medicare wage tax is my guess).

    As someone who purchases his own health insurance I might even be better off, but I cannot agree with this idea at all.  Taking care of all kids in America, now that idea I understand.  I have seen first hand what happened to a child who didn't have physical therapy for MD.  By his mid 20's he couldn't walk due to atrophy.  While MD is not curable, therapy can help.  In this case his parents could not afford therapy.  Today this person (if still alive) is on SSD.  A little money early on and today this person might well be paying taxes instead of collecting a check.

    By the way, thank you.

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    The irony (none / 0) (#42)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 09:13:14 AM EST
    is that Medicare actually will pay for autism treatment but private insurance WILL NOT.

    Have you ever thought past the end of your nose and wondered what we are going to do people who cant function in society? An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure in the case of autism.

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    So you know how to prevent autism (none / 0) (#43)
    by me only on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 10:38:35 AM EST
    pray, do tell.  My FIL is a neurologist.  I will be sure to forward this preventative measure that you have to him.  He is absolutely waiting with baited breath.

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    Grow up (none / 0) (#48)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 12:58:28 PM EST
    Did I say that I had a cure for autism? No, I did not. But as I'm sure that you and your FIL know there are things and treatments for autism that can make them able to function better. Right? Or maybe you aren't even aware of any of the treatments or therapies that can be done. Whatever. Silly ditto monkeys sheesh.

    Parent
    Read what you wrote (none / 0) (#50)
    by me only on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 03:07:56 PM EST
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure in the case of autism.

    What is this ounce of prevention?

    I can see why you stick to sites where most everyone agrees with you.  You are not capable of making points and would be banned on sites where people disagree with you because you name call.

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    I was speaking (none / 0) (#51)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 03:50:53 PM EST
    figuratively not literally. Sheesh ditto monkeys!!

    Parent
    Do you understand (none / 0) (#52)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 03:53:50 PM EST
    that? I'm sorry but I just have to laugh at someone who's not capable of doing much more than repeating standard GOP talking points. I have to give the GOP credit: they've done a wonderful job of creating a bunch of mushrooms who like to live in the dark and be fed junk.

    Parent
    What is the PO these senators are signing on to? (none / 0) (#10)
    by jawbone on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 05:14:15 PM EST
    BTD, you seem to know bcz you give dollar amount savings.

    None was passed in the Senate bill; is this from the House version? Something different?

    Is it...be still my heart...Medicare for All? Nah, that could save $400B each year.

    Anyone know?

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    I don't think we're supposed to (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by Anne on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 05:49:04 PM EST
    ask that question, jawbone.

    The way I see it, none of these Senators has anything to lose by signing a letter, and that's why they're doing it; maybe they think that being "for" something no one has defined is just as good as actually putting together a detailed plan?  

    I don't know; the kabuki just never ends.

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    The entire thread that I started (none / 0) (#44)
    by me only on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 10:41:50 AM EST
    was exactly what you just captured.  (You probably said it much better than I.)

    The Democrats in the Senate do not appear to want to actually vote on "a" PO.  Sending a letter that will most likely go nowhere is easy.  It gives them cover.  "Well I tried, but it never came to a vote."

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    Schumer&#8207;'s form response to my e-mail (none / 0) (#17)
    by Babel 17 on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 06:50:50 PM EST
    "Thank you for contacting me and expressing your support for increasing access and coverage in health care reform. I wholeheartedly agree, and believe that a public option will help enhance access to quality and affordable health care for every American.

    Our country is facing a crisis in health care. The cost of health insurance is skyrocketing, and too many New York families are caught in the middle. Like you, I believe it is absolutely unacceptable that more than forty-six million Americans do not have health care coverage. Both the health of our citizens and the health of our nation are at stake, and we must act soon.

    I strongly support the establishment of a public health insurance option which would create a not-for-profit insurance plan, started by the government, which would compete on a level playing field with existing private health insurance plans. Because the public health insurance option would be not-for-profit, it should require lower premiums and, therefore, exert downward pressure on the premiums of existing insurance plans. This change is pro-consumer because it adds competition to insurance markets, allowing New Yorkers and all Americans one more choice of affordable and comprehensive health insurance. I am disappointed that the health care reform bill passed by the Senate did not contain a public option, but I will continue to fight for the inclusion of the public option and recently co-signed a letter to Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) asking for a vote on the public option.

    The Senate is currently focused on crafting legislation that will create jobs, helping American families and our nation's economy to continue recovering from our recent economic crisis. But health care costs have a significant impact on the budgets of families and of the country as a whole, and we cannot give up on health care reform, we must do something to address rising health care costs. I will continue to work with my colleagues to develop a strong bill that can help solve our current health care crisis.

    Thank you for contacting me about this important issue. Please do not hesitate to contact me again if I can ever be of assistance to you on this, or any other matter.

    Sincerely,

    Charles E. Schumer
    United States Senator"

    Well, he's kind of known for having considered opinions, hopefully others will take the hint and use his opinion as cover, if they need it, for signing on.

    It's sound fiscal policy and it's popular. It will infuriate some huge corporate donors but this is still a democracy wherein numbers at the polls matter.