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    appalling (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by tworivers on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 03:42:31 PM EST
    Palin's latest gambit is appalling even by her standards.

    She also tweeted: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!"

    Why (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by jbindc on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 03:56:18 PM EST
    Does anyone pay attention to this woman?  Ignore her and she will go away.

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    lol (3.17 / 6) (#9)
    by squeaky on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:09:50 PM EST
     
    Ignore her and she will go away.
    Doesn't work with you, why should it with Palin?

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    Really? (none / 0) (#22)
    by jbindc on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:22:17 PM EST
    That's all you got?

    I guess the rules you like to cite to others don't apply to you, even if your retorts are lame.

    Keep trying, though.

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    She's getting a reality show (none / 0) (#11)
    by lilburro on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:12:46 PM EST
    about Alaska on TV soon.  She isn't going anywhere.

    Also that link is horrifying.  For all her BS outrage over use of the word "retarded" she doesn't give two sh*ts over who she might offend.

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    she knows her (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 03:59:54 PM EST
    audience.  we should be encouraging her.  the GOPers are going to own this stuff.


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    Yeah right.. (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by jondee on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:02:43 PM EST
    preferably from the Book Depository.

    A little too much of that kind of imagery coming from these whackjobs, who we're supposed to ignore. I respectfully think not.

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    I'm beginning to think it might be (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by ruffian on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:12:37 PM EST
    a deliberate attempt to provoke a response or, even better for them, over-response from the government.

    When she moves to a compound near Waco, we'll know.

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    She has a compound (none / 0) (#18)
    by jondee on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:19:48 PM EST
    in Waco between her ears.

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    I am a little amused at the handwringing (none / 0) (#23)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:22:54 PM EST
    I dont discount the possibility that someone one could be hurt or even die but if the do it will be the final nail in the coffin of the teabaggers.
    and quite possibly the gop for encouraging them.
    all the talk about "insurrection" and stuff sort of makes me laugh.  
    have you seen these people?
    they couldnt insurrect their freakin mother-in-laws.
    and if they do lose controll I think we can be pretty sure we have a justice department that will come down on them like sweaty prom date.


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    Alright (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by jondee on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:29:13 PM EST
    call me paranoid, but for some reason I keep flashing on those Wanted For Treason posters in Dallas..

    This is the Happiness is a Warm Gun - "the blood of patriots" crowd we're talking about here, after all..

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    this is exactly the right message (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:41:01 PM EST
    Slaughter On Violence And Threats: GOP 'Fanning The Flames With Coded Rhetoric'

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    more of the right message (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 06:02:41 PM EST
    Well, it seems to be working on the wrong (none / 0) (#80)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 10:10:59 PM EST
    its a (none / 0) (#29)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:35:54 PM EST
    bluff.
    these people sell cars at their day job.  they have mortgages.  they are fat old white republicans.  they simply are not going to strap on a bandelero and go all rambo.  one or two might.
    but this is not a threat to the republic.  at least not at this juncture.  IMO.  
    they are blowing smoke.
    its easy to make death threats.  much harder to carry them out.

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    Sure hope you are right, (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by KeysDan on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 05:08:57 PM EST
    but there is always that Eric Rudolph or Tim McVeigh type that is more than willing and able to impress their dear kinfolk. Better to error on the side of caution on this one, despite media overplay.

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    I dont disagree (none / 0) (#44)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 05:19:55 PM EST
    just reacting to the "run and hide" stuff I am seeing all over the intertubes.

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    I generally concur... (none / 0) (#45)
    by kdog on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 05:25:51 PM EST
    our figures of speech are loaded with violent imagery, sure as shootin'.  Unfortunately it only takes one superstar arsehole...but ya can't sweat that sh*t, thats the world we've always lived in.

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    What's wrong with selling cars? (none / 0) (#53)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 07:11:35 PM EST
    Seems an honorable job to me.

    So what's your problem?  Why the snark?

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    I think he was (none / 0) (#62)
    by jondee on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 10:56:17 PM EST
    saying that they're fairly normal people with respectable jobs who are acting out at these rallies the way some people blow off steam at civil war reenactments.

    It wasnt a liberal elitist attack on people who sell cars for a living.

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    thank you (none / 0) (#65)
    by Capt Howdy on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 08:47:07 AM EST
    Then why say it? (none / 0) (#75)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 02:13:42 PM EST
    It's called giving an example (none / 0) (#77)
    by jondee on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 04:55:59 PM EST
    as in, "these people aren't the unibomber; they manage convenience stores, work in accounting and practice taxidermy with the cadavers of teenage runaways in their spare time"

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    I think (none / 0) (#79)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 10:07:05 PM EST
    he meant it. No other reason to say it and it reflects an elitist position.

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    Thank you cap'n (none / 0) (#59)
    by Upstart Crow on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 09:01:48 PM EST
    For your common sense.

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    I'd just like to be able (none / 0) (#78)
    by jondee on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 05:04:48 PM EST
    to say thank you teabaggers and Sarah, for your common sense.

    "Now reload.." Are you kidding me?

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    Who are these tea baggers? (none / 0) (#52)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 07:09:10 PM EST
    I mean the Left keeps talking about them, but the last Tea Baggger I knew got laid off from Lipton when they outsourced the Orange Pekoe division to Mexico.

    Real shame. I mean Orange Pekoe Tea Bagger experts are hard to find. sigh.... Another critical industry gone.

    I think he retired and moved to Las Vegas.

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    Trolling... (5.00 / 2) (#57)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 08:01:10 PM EST
    ...with old bait is no way to land a fish.

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    Well, who are they? (none / 0) (#60)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 09:07:49 PM EST
    lol

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    Clue: (none / 0) (#63)
    by jondee on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 10:59:02 PM EST
    that warm sensation you've been experiencing just before you go to sleep wasnt from the sandman.

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    So you don't know. (none / 0) (#74)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 02:12:45 PM EST
    This looks like publicly advocating violence (5.00 / 3) (#48)
    by Farmboy on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 05:49:38 PM EST
    If only there was, oh, I don't know, a law against that. Let's call it the "it's really a felony to call for the shooting of politicians" law.

    And if there was such a law, perhaps then the people donating to her PAC might be guilty of, what's that word, oh yeah, conspiring to commit a felony. Wouldn't that be funny.

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    another theory of leadership... (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by Turkana on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 03:46:25 PM EST
    At the Scouting Combine, the Wonderlic exam is administered to players in groups.  The 12-minute test is preceded by some brief instructions and comments from the person administering the test.

    Per a league source, after the person administering the test to Tebow's group had finished, Tebow made a request that the players bow their heads in prayer before taking the 50-question exam.

    Said one of the other players in response:  "Shut the f--k up."  Others players in the room then laughed.

    heh.

    Heh (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by andgarden on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:04:24 PM EST
    I don't think that even I would have the guts to do that. And I have a big mouth!

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    I think you would (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by ruffian on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:16:09 PM EST
    especially if you were a probable 1st round pick being patronized by this guy. He's not a team captain anymore. He'll be lucky to be on a team this time next year.

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    But (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by CoralGables on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:59:44 PM EST
    he will be at least a million dollars richer a month from now.

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    But Timmy is... (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:27:59 PM EST
    ...such a special little snowflake!!1!  Was it the heckling or the lack of the baby Jezuz's intervention that caused him to do poorly on his Wonderlic?

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    Maybe he's just stupid. (5.00 / 2) (#35)
    by scribe on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:53:43 PM EST
    That he believed his sanctimony would be OK in the No Fun League merely points in that direction.

    I'm kinda hoping he does make it to the NFL, so we can watch some defensive player play steamroller to his pavement.

    Jesus will be there, saying "Whoa, Dude.  I'm gettin' out of the way, here."

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    Poorly? (none / 0) (#41)
    by CoralGables on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 05:12:21 PM EST
    depends on what you are comparing against. Tebow scored a 22. Marino got a 15. Alex Smith had a 40. The NFL player average is between 20 and 21.

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    Should have added Brett Favre (none / 0) (#43)
    by CoralGables on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 05:15:12 PM EST
    22

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    I give the Wonderlic... (none / 0) (#46)
    by kdog on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 05:29:01 PM EST
    a 2.  If I were a GM I'd scout games, watch film, and get to know the kid...skip the 40 and the Wonderlic.

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    I'd agree (none / 0) (#47)
    by CoralGables on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 05:41:48 PM EST
    other than a WR the 40 seems a silly exercise.

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    Wouldn't you want... (none / 0) (#56)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 07:32:15 PM EST
    ...to know that the CB's--who are covering those WR's--could at least keep up and not get toasted on every play?  

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    I was going to add them (none / 0) (#58)
    by CoralGables on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 08:06:59 PM EST
    but hell, they get a head start anyway. Some of them used to play ten yards off Randy Moss. Better that they can make the quick adjustment when the route isn't a fly. Maybe the shuttle run is a better indicator.

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    Alex Smith... (none / 0) (#55)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 07:20:32 PM EST
    ...has tiny hands like that guy in the Burger King commercial who's too embarrassed to hold a Whopper.  Not good for a QB.

    Marino isn't even close to being the sharpest knife in the drawer.  But, anyone who watched him play at Pitt could tell he was a close as you can come to a sure-fire NFL passer.  Can't say that about Tim-may.

    At best, Tebow tested "average".  Probably not what you want when there are already questions about your mechanics, accuracy and ability to run a NFL offensive.  And if this story is to believed, perhaps now questions his leadership and what kind of effect he would have on the locker room.

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    Classy guy (none / 0) (#54)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 07:12:45 PM EST
    He must have went to the University of Ottawa.

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    Fun with art... (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by desertswine on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 03:46:40 PM EST
    The Museum of Bad Art

    This site was made for me. I have pieces that I can donate to it.

    Grest site! (none / 0) (#13)
    by ZtoA on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:17:25 PM EST
    SEE BATTLE   my fav.

    I've got a few pieces I could donate too and MOBA would make a nice resume line.  :)

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    Great One (none / 0) (#16)
    by squeaky on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:18:48 PM EST
    I like it a lot too.

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    NIce (none / 0) (#15)
    by squeaky on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:17:26 PM EST
    For me, only a few were without any merit. Many of the others I like a lot and would not mind owning. I actually make and collect "good" art, although some of it could easily be in the MOBA collection.

    Oh well...

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    this one (none / 0) (#21)
    by lilburro on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:22:06 PM EST
    just reminds me of crazy folk art more than anything else.  "On A Windy Day."

    I mean the guy apparently writes the World's Worst Poetry too, so he must be doing something right (wrong).

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    A Bit Too Cute For Me (none / 0) (#27)
    by squeaky on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:32:05 PM EST
    And a bit too refined. Once the rendering becomes formulaic, I lose interest. That goes for outsider art and high art.

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    well, as far as bad art goes (none / 0) (#42)
    by ZtoA on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 05:14:52 PM EST
    I think it is pretty successful. I really like the cow, and the artist did take care to get all the shadows and wind to go in the same direction. Still, the cow is great bad art.

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    Maybe J's... (none / 0) (#1)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 03:37:30 PM EST
    ...power is out due to the snow?

    When will people learn (none / 0) (#14)
    by andgarden on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:17:25 PM EST
    that every single word in a chain email is probably wrong? My mother, of all people, should know this.

    Glad it isn't just me! (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by IndiDemGirl on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:40:58 PM EST
    I am constantly getting crazy e-mails from people who otherwise are intelligent, witty, and well-informed.  What is it about e-mailing that seems to remove all good judgement?  I am constantly telling my own mother to check it out on Snopes before mailing it along.

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    All I know (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by andgarden on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:46:16 PM EST
    is that I have never forwarded one. EVER.

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    I sometimes debunk (none / 0) (#36)
    by IndiDemGirl on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:59:39 PM EST
    the e-mail and send to everyone on the fowarding list.  I know it is futile, but sometimes I just can't let some of the stuff go unanswered.   Happened several times during the health care ordeal.

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    Ha. (none / 0) (#17)
    by ruffian on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:19:09 PM EST
    Is it the scary kind or the too inspiring to be true' kind?

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    Sorry, reply below (none / 0) (#20)
    by andgarden on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:21:39 PM EST
    I see, the political BS kind! (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by ruffian on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:26:29 PM EST
    A perennial favorite.

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    Just a taste: (none / 0) (#19)
    by andgarden on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:21:20 PM EST
    Subj:  Fwd: Fw: A MUST SEE CONGRESS AT WORK? PHOTO

    The photo was not of Congress, not important, and not recent.  

    Did you see this? (none / 0) (#28)
    by jbindc on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:34:58 PM EST
    An autistic teenager has a perfect bracket through the first 2 rounds of the NCAA tournament - even with some huge upsets.

    The odds of that?  One in 13,460,000.

    He picked Purdue to win it all.

    Unfortunately, he isn't enrolled in one of those sites that pay a prize to the person who has the most correct picks.

    Great story (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by IndiDemGirl on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:44:06 PM EST
    isn't it?  Got a quite a bit of coverage on the Chicago news (though in Indiana we're close enough to get Chicago media).  

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    Nice (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by squeaky on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:44:34 PM EST
    I like this autistic kid who actually plays...

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    I'd be a little chary on taking that one (none / 0) (#38)
    by scribe on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 04:59:45 PM EST
    to the bank.  No one is saying anyone is making things up, but the bracket program he's entered in can be changed after the games are played.  It's not one of the brackets that are being played for money, so there's next to no security on it.

    So, in the words of Deadspin either he's "achieved the lifelong dream of degenerate gamblers everywhere", or he hasn't.

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    National History Day (none / 0) (#40)
    by Cream City on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 05:10:17 PM EST
    for middle schoolers and high schoolers nationwide is underway as usual this spring, so I recently got to do my annual judging at a regional, as I have for years -- hundreds and hundreds each years of research papers and projects and posterboards and one-person shows and videos and websites and more by hundreds and hundreds of wonderful students.

    Talking to a teacher, this time I found out that two of the entrants are autistic.  I found out that such a great sign, having an autistic nephew myself who is in high school.  It has been quite a decade and a half for all of us in the family, quite a learning curve (and quite useful for a teacher, too).

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    OK, Ellie (none / 0) (#50)
    by Upstart Crow on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 06:08:18 PM EST
    As promised in the previous thread, give me the straight skinny on cast-iron pans.

    I've been using cast iron skillets (5.00 / 2) (#51)
    by scribe on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 06:56:23 PM EST
    all my life.  The set I'm using presently I bought in 1981. They are, for all intents and purposes, indestructible.  I bought a dutch oven the other weekend from a junk dealer;  it might be 70 or more years old.  No way of telling, really.

    Seasoning them is simple, once you understand the principle involved.  Seasoning is in two parts.  First and foremost, it is the development of a layer of carbon on the iron surface.  That carbon layer then forms the non-stick surface which a good cast iron pan will have.  This part of seasoning can be well underway within a week of regular use.  As you use the pan over time, the carbon layer will both ablate and build itself up during cooking.  The second part of seasoning is more subtle, the actual modification of the molecular structure of the cast iron pan itself by repeated cycles of heating and cooling.  This is akin to tempering steel and develops slowly over time.  One sees this often in the grills of drive-ins, where the signature dish can't be made correctly on a new grill.  This effect is what makes the pan (or grill) behave in a more mellow, smoother manner when heating and cooling.

    On to how to season it.  Take some generic vegetable oil - a tablespoon or two - and a couple paper towels.  Turn on your stove's burner- medium high will be good.  Dump the oil into the pan, swirl it around so the entire interior is covered, then mop it up with the paper towels so you have the infamous "light coat of oil" only on the inside of the pan.  Put the pan on the burnerand let it go for a couple minutes.  You'll see the oil start to congregate in a pattern which reflects the heat distribution from the burner below.  When you do, take the paper towel and smear the oil around a bit until there's a uniform film again, then make sure the pan gets moved, too, so as to realign the heat distribution and avoid hot spots developing because of the burner's shape.

    Do this two or three more times.  If the pan and oil start smoking, back them off the heat a bit and then return, after running the paper towel and oil around and evening things out.  After the last time, cut the heat and let the pan cool at its natural rate.

    When you're done with this, take the pan and wash it gently with a sponge and soapy water.  Scraping will remove the carbon, and you don't want that.  

    Repeat this process three or four more times and it will be seasoned.  You can start cooking in it after doing it the first time.  Pancakes (using vegetable oil to grease the pan) are a good choice.  

    The time will come when all you have to do to clean up the pan is swirl the soapy water around in the pan with a sponge.  Seriously.  If you scrape it, or something you cook busts up the carbon surface, you can easily rebuild it in one seasoning iteration.  Takes ten or 15 minutes.

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    No soap!!! (5.00 / 2) (#64)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 11:22:00 PM EST
    No soap EVER on a seasoned cast iron pan!!

    It's not necessary, first of all, and more important it breaks down the oiling.

    Oy!

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    I hit it with plain water and let that work (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by Ellie on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 12:48:54 PM EST
    ... while the burner cools, then empty it and wipe with a paper towel or just let it air dry. Sometimes, I'll scrub it with salt if necessary (can't remember the last time it was, though.)

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    I do it all the time (none / 0) (#67)
    by scribe on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 12:25:07 PM EST
    and it doesn't hurt it a bit.

    Scraping is what you have to watch against.

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    Scraping (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by squeaky on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 03:09:10 PM EST
    I always use kosher salt if I need an abrasive... But I agree soap, and then some oil... maybe some heat if I am in the mood..

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    The whole purpose of soap (none / 0) (#81)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 04:14:28 PM EST
    and the reason we use it to clean things is that it breaks down the very compounds that create the "seasoning" in the cast iron.

    It's also entirely unnecessary. A properly seasoned cast iron pan/pot is as non-stick as teflon and doesn't even get greasy.  If you need to use soap on your cast iron, it isn't properly seasoned.

    Plain hot water and some sort of mildly abrasive scrubbing implement are all it needs and all it should have.

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    wow. thx. (none / 0) (#61)
    by Upstart Crow on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 09:07:59 PM EST
    didn't know all this.

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    It's science. (none / 0) (#68)
    by scribe on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 12:25:36 PM EST
    Some of what you can do with your Iron Skillet: (none / 0) (#66)
    by Ellie on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 09:35:28 AM EST
    ... that you can't do -- or do as masterfully well -- in other cookware.

    • make decent old-school fried classics like Southern fried chicken (smothered pork chops, hush puppies, etc.), crab cakes, one pan fish & chips -- flash, shallow or even semi-deep frying anything is better in an iron skillet.

    • grilled sandwiches (tip: heat a smaller cast iron skillet and use it as a weight on top to get there in 1/2 the time.)

    • stovetop skillet breads: everything from Indian chapati and roti to English muffins and crumpets to Greek pita to Scottish oat breads to Asian crackers to an Everywhere cornbread that rocks the house. The Indian bread skillet is called a tawa.

    • Italian foccaccia, crisp bottomed thin pizza OR deep dish style (an iron skillet's like having a pizza stone). I start my pizzas stovetop and finish in the oven.

    • make better pancakes than you ever thought possible, actually the whole breakfast comes out better and you can do pretty much everything in the one pan if you like.

    • "steam fry" dim sum dumplings (for pot stickers that don't stick)

    • high end Singapore rice noodles and Pad Thai

    The list is almost endless. Don't get me started on bean-cuisean.

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    One dish tarte tatin. (none / 0) (#69)
    by scribe on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 12:28:13 PM EST
    Saute the apples with buerre, sugar, cider, spices and a shot of Calvados, then smackthe dough on top and into the oven it goes.  Bake it, bring it out, invert it onto a serving dish, and voila.

    So easy, I've made it for breakfast.

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    A great brunch staple or backyard BBQ dessert (5.00 / 1) (#71)
    by Ellie on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 12:44:49 PM EST
    ... while the coals die out. YUM.

    I can't count how many times I've picked up a skillet for a song at yard/garage sales (or free on curbside junk collection day). They had burnt-on stuff or were rusty from disuse.

    Some notables

    • cross-sectioned (8 wedged) cornbread skillet;
    • square Japanese omelettiere
    • (my fave) two-burner cast-iron grill/griddle ... for 5 bux!!!
    • a teensy 6-incher I use to roast spices and slow-dry herb/spice mixes

    I restore and give away the 12-18" ones as housewarmers (they turn a house into a home IMO) with an instruction and rec book.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: no way no how am I rapturing ouddaheah before getting this STUFF.

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    Cornbread. (none / 0) (#70)
    by scribe on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 12:29:59 PM EST
    Proper cornbread can only be made in cast iron - the skillet or, if you're one of them rich folks, the little molds shaped like corncobs.

    It just does not come out right if done in something other than cast iron.

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    also (none / 0) (#73)
    by CST on Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 12:49:19 PM EST
    risotto - so much better out of cast iron.

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