World Cup Live Blog: USA v. Algeria; England v. Slovenia

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Posted on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 08:41:22 AM EST
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Goal by Donovan in stoppage time for USA saves our World Cup. 1-0 USA. USA wins Group C. England also qualifies.

These games will be played simultaneously but I will try and keep up with both.

First news - the USA starting lineup:

Goalkeeper: Tim Howard. Defenders: Steve Cherundolo, Jay DeMerit, Carlos Bocanegra, Jonathan Bornstein (in for Gooch). Midfielders: Landon Donovan, Michael Bradley, Maurice Edu (gets the start after fine performance as sub vs. Slovenia), Clint Dempsey. Forwards: Herculez Gomez (in for suspended Findley), Jozy Altidore.

Bornstein??? Gooch must be hurt. Gooch at 80% is better than Bornstein at 200%. Anyway, live blog on the flip.

GOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLL!

England sits Heskey. Starts Dafoe. Milner is back on.

I've got both games on.

Kick off in England-Slovenia and USA-Algeria.

5 minutes - Uneventful first 5 minutes in both games.

6 minute - Algeria should have scored off a mistake by Demerit. Hit the post. Gomez comes right back with a good shot. Corner for USA.

9th minute - USA defense looks amateurishly awful.

10th minute - USA looks awful in the back. Slovenia is holding its own against England.

15th minute - USA looks awful. Slovenia looks better than England to me.

20th minute - Great chance for USA. Donovan can't beat the keeper. Dempsey was offside imo.

England scores. Dafoe. Now the USA has to win.

30th minute - England looks like they will win. The USA has to find a goal somehow. The USA defense looks terrible on a consistent basis.

35th minute- Nice play for a good chance for Dempsey. Frankly he failed to make a good shot of it.

Altidore misses an open net.

40th minute- USA defense has been better. Chances have been squandered.

HALFTIME - As the results stand - USA is out. Harkes is an awful commentator and I don't like the Englishman much either. Tough listen.

England looks solid now. USA does not.

Results have been fair imo.

After watching the replay, Dempsey clearly was onside and that should have been a goal.

2nd Half England-Slovenia - Dafoe misses a good chance in the opening minute.

USA-Slovenia Feilhaber on but I don't know who came off.

55th minute - Dempsey misses two easy chances. Catches the bar in the first one. Misses on the easy rebound.

69th minute - Looks unpromising. Algeria has decided not to play.

Buddle on for Edu. We need a break.

67th minute - header from Buddle stopped. Algeria counter misses.

70th minute - Need something.

73rd minute - Donovan cross disappointing.

75th minute - Desperation time.

78th minute - Nice strike by Bradley but not followup for the rebound.

80th minute - Even more desperate now.

85th minute - need a bolt of lightning.

88th minute - Need a miracle.

FINAL - 1-0. USA wins the group.

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Didn't see this thread... (5.00 / 1) (#21)
by magster on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:40:42 AM EST

...I was liveblogging with myself in the preview.

: much more fun (none / 0) (#22)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:42:10 AM EST

this way :)

dudes (5.00 / 1) (#33)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:31:50 AM EST

we aren't trying to hit one out of the park. Different game.

OH. MY. GOD. (5.00 / 1) (#65)
by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 12:38:12 PM EST

I missed the end of that freaking game because the stupid internet went down - too many people streaming - can't you see I . Oh well, I am so happy we won, I can barely care. I'll catch the highlights later. Go team USA!!!!

Bornstein (none / 0) (#1)
by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 08:47:49 AM EST

Terrible choice by Bradley imo.

I don't think Gooch was even 80%, but (none / 0) (#2)
by steviez314 on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 08:54:24 AM EST

Goodson would have been a better choice, IMHO.


: Actually (none / 0) (#5)
by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 08:56:06 AM EST

I just read a good defense of the move - Bocanegra to center back is an improvement both at center back and left back.

Goodson (none / 0) (#6)
by JDB on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 08:56:57 AM EST

I would much prefer Goodson in for Gooch, leaving Boca out on the left. I know the Hondurans love Bornstein - maybe they could have him?

Nice to see Gomez get the start, tho'.


USA USA USA (none / 0) (#3)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 08:54:24 AM EST

I've been wondering what kind of souvenirs those kids get for escorting the players. It must be a thrill and a half. I would have loved to have been one as a kid.

my sister (none / 0) (#4)
by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 08:55:44 AM EST

got to work in the locker room at the women's world cup a few years back. Soooooo jealous.


: oh man! (none / 0) (#7)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 08:58:49 AM EST

even better!
Now I'm jealous too :)

Rooting loyalties today (none / 0) (#8)
by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:00:59 AM EST

USA! ALL THE WAY!

Then England Slovenia tie - leaving us in 1st place.

This afternoon I want Germany to win by 1 goal and Australia to win by 1 goal, sending Germany and Ghana on to the next round.

GO USA! (none / 0) (#9)
by lilburro on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:09:01 AM EST

and good luck watching both games at once.

espn3 (none / 0) (#11)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:18:21 AM EST

and the tv

espn3 streams online? (none / 0) (#12)
by lilburro on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:21:18 AM EST

England just scored (none / 0) (#14)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:23:00 AM EST

and it wasn't disallowed

ESPN3

hope it works


: thanks! (none / 0) (#19)
by lilburro on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:33:38 AM EST

oh man (none / 0) (#10)
by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:09:40 AM EST

well, I feel like if we can get lucky and not let in any goals in the first 20 minutes, we have a pretty good shot here at least...

but they need to stop doing cr@p like that. It's not good for my blood pressure.

oh man (none / 0) (#13)
by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:21:41 AM EST

was that offside? I don't know, maybe. Donovan should have HAD THAT though.

Not again . . . (none / 0) (#15)
by JDB on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:24:22 AM EST

On slo mo replay it sure looks like Clint was not offside. It was close, tho'.

Hi Everybody, (none / 0) (#16)
by LatinoDC on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:26:00 AM EST

can't watch the U.S. game, here in Peru they are showing the England game and will show the U.S. game at 11....was it really off side?

I'm going to be all fannish (none / 0) (#17)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:27:45 AM EST

and say no.

But I couldn't tell. If it was it was close.


: I don't think it was offside (none / 0) (#18)
by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:31:50 AM EST

but at least it was a reasonable call to make.
The refs don't have slo-mo replay and he should not have been that close.
But I don't think he was off.

USA (none / 0) (#20)
by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:37:39 AM EST

is getting their chances. They just got to FINISH one. At least we know they can score in the 2nd half...

and the shot they took (none / 0) (#23)
by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:55:54 AM EST

that hit the crossbar looks like he was offside.

But these replays are killing me. I keep thinking for a second the game has started up again and Algeria almost scores...

When are the laws of karma going to kick in? (none / 0) (#24)
by magster on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 09:57:54 AM EST

Bad calls are supposed to even out.

I think it just did (none / 0) (#26)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:05:29 AM EST

England had a goal disallowed.


: And that looked like a foul on USA (none / 0) (#27)
by magster on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:08:40 AM EST

on that corner kick.

30 seconds into 2nd Half - England missed sitter (none / 0) (#25)
by JoeA on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:01:57 AM EST

Defoe missed from about 5 yards.

We just can't seem to score (none / 0) (#28)
by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:22:58 AM EST

And again (none / 0) (#29)
by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:23:35 AM EST

my fingernails will be nonexistant (5.00 / 1) (#30)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:24:37 AM EST

soon


: and my teeth (none / 0) (#31)
by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:27:11 AM EST

will be. Especially because the streaming is freezing up. GAH!

: That's like 6 missed excellent scoring chances (none / 0) (#32)
by magster on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:29:03 AM EST

The word "choke" is coming to mind.

Memo:When you kick the ball chest high .... (none / 0) (#34)
by magster on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:38:13 AM EST

... to the center of the goal, the goalie is usually standing there.

: Dempsey missed it by that much (none / 0) (#36)
by magster on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:42:04 AM EST

That = 20 yards high.
Getting frustrated.

My post on needless turnovers got eaten (none / 0) (#35)
by Ellie on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:39:36 AM EST

... due to sloppy keyboarding. How ironic is that?

Okay then, how dumb?

Mbouli's surpisingly effective. (The keepers have really been THE story of the Group round.)

Scrolled past the live-blogging cause we have England Slovenia queued.

Algeria just got a red card :) (none / 0) (#48)
by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:51:17 AM EST

Complaining to the ref


: Did I just get carded for kvetching? :-D (5.00 / 1) (#54)
by Ellie on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:57:17 AM EST

It's okay, I could use a sit ... I've been on my feet yelling and can use the breather. What a finish!

My heart can't take this (none / 0) (#37)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:42:50 AM EST

We are running out of time.

GOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLL! (none / 0) (#38)
by Joan in VA on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:48:35 AM EST

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! (none / 0) (#39)
by magster on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:48:39 AM EST

: Ok -- Run out the clock (none / 0) (#43)
by magster on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:49:54 AM EST

Live blog and comments much appreciated (none / 0) (#40)
by Cream City on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:48:52 AM EST

as I am not going to give up my spot in the cafe in the town square on one of the first sunny days in several here, and one of my last days in Italy, to go around the corner with the spouse to sit in the sports bar with the crowd -- many of them our American students - watching tghe World Cup.

I don't have to do so (and I can't get a good connection to the streaming, amid the mountains), as the collective groans have been loud enough to convey a general sense of the game. So there have been a lot of groans.

But reading through the live blog and comments, I get the details now.

Ohhhhh, lots of noise around the corner. I think that those ar enot groans but cheers?!

GOAL GOAL GOAL GOAL GOAL (none / 0) (#41)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:49:19 AM EST

GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Woo! (none / 0) (#44)
by JDB on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:50:16 AM EST

I think you need an update, BTD. ;)


: Did he give up and switch the TV off early? (none / 0) (#47)
by JoeA on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:51:16 AM EST

Ooops!

Son Of A (none / 0) (#42)
by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:49:32 AM EST

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooal :)

LaaaaaaannnnnnnDDDDDDDDOHHHHH! (none / 0) (#45)
by Ellie on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:50:48 AM EST

Oh.
My.
Freakin'.
GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL!

GOAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!! (none / 0) (#46)
by lilburro on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:51:10 AM EST

Karma (none / 0) (#49)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:51:20 AM EST

Karma Chameleon!

Karma (none / 0) (#50)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:51:42 AM EST

: OOPA (none / 0) (#51)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:52:16 AM EST

WE DONE IT
OUR BOYS DID IT!!
SECOND ROUND!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BTD we got a miracle !!! (none / 0) (#52)
by star on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:53:22 AM EST

Go USA !!

Landon Donovan is becoming our star (none / 0) (#53)
by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 10:53:25 AM EST

: He's been our star for some time now. (none / 0) (#56)
by Joan in VA on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 11:04:01 AM EST

Scoring and assists leader. Where have you been? ;)

USA! USA! USA! (none / 0) (#55)
by kdog on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 11:01:21 AM EST

Call 'em the Cardiac Yanks!

Great win (none / 0) (#57)
by Dadler on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 11:05:23 AM EST

Clapped so hard on that winning goal that the tip of one of my fingers is purple.

That said, offsides has to be eliminated. It is akin to the old women's basketball rules.

This would destroy the game! (none / 0) (#66)
by canuck eh on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 01:47:06 PM EST

Just because it's difficult to call doesn't mean the rule should be removed (if so they should do away with half the NFL rulebook)


nah, it's terrible in a sport like soccer (none / 0) (#67)
by Dadler on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 04:47:22 PM EST

it essentially penalizes athleticism and restricts the game. there isn't a penalty in football even close to it. hockey i can understand, it's a tiny rink, but on a huge field, let them run.


: And it's impossible to even approach (none / 0) (#68)
by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 05:35:58 PM EST

equitable enforcement...

: actually (none / 0) (#69)
by CST on Thu Jun 24, 2010 at 09:11:33 AM EST

I think removing it would penalize athleticism and skill by allowing the offense to just hang forward rather than having to sprint past and beat their defender. It's a hard one to call, I'll give you that. But based on the reffing so far, so is a handball, and I don't think we should change that rule either...

Boy the highlights from the game (none / 0) (#58)
by magster on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 11:08:39 AM EST

are close call after close call. A tie would have been crushing.

What an ending!!

Altidore, man of the match (none / 0) (#59)
by Manuel on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 11:08:47 AM EST

He looked dangerous almost every time he touched the ball.

Was I the only one holding my breath (none / 0) (#60)
by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 11:10:52 AM EST

to see if the goal wasn't disallowed?

: Me too (none / 0) (#61)
by star on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 11:32:23 AM EST

why cant they have replays or challenges like in Tennis or cricket. An entire nation have to put up with a wrong call and suck it up. Not right or fair.

: nnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooo! (none / 0) (#62)
by Ellie on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 11:37:20 AM EST

... phew. still coming back to earth.

And on another sport...Wimbledon on ESPN now (none / 0) (#63)
by steviez314 on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 12:17:22 PM EST

Isner-Mahut is 36-35 in the 5th set.

: Wow! (none / 0) (#64)
by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 12:22:39 PM EST