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In the end, nobody--employee or customer--called me skinny, ugly or any other hateful names, gave me dirty looks, flipped me off, rolled their eyes, threatened to sue me or called 911. In fact, nobody seemed to notice or care. Go figure.
One thing I meant to ask "lost in wisconsin," but didn't, was "would you have handled this situation the same way if the person with too many items had been a man?" Parent
I mean it's a cop, they lie for a living:) Parent
There was no one waiting or in line at the 10 items or less counter, or express line so she asked the clerk if she could take her and she said yes. A bit later another customer came up and strenuously objected. "I was bending over getting eight little can goods and I heard, 'Can't you blank, blank, read?' I was like, 'Are you kidding me?'" the woman said. The man went on to call her fat and ugly. The woman said she called 911. A police officer happened to be in the area. "He went and called her names and caused in all of my years of law enforcement, a disturbance," Saukville police Officer Barry Effinger said. The man was issued a citation for disorderly conduct with a $429 fine. This was the man's second such incident investigated by the same officer in two years.
"I was bending over getting eight little can goods and I heard, 'Can't you blank, blank, read?' I was like, 'Are you kidding me?'" the woman said.
The man went on to call her fat and ugly. The woman said she called 911. A police officer happened to be in the area.
"He went and called her names and caused in all of my years of law enforcement, a disturbance," Saukville police Officer Barry Effinger said.
The man was issued a citation for disorderly conduct with a $429 fine. This was the man's second such incident investigated by the same officer in two years.
Funny how not having all the facts creates one kind of scenario. Now that the facts of the incident are coming to light, things aren't lookin' too good for "Lied in Wisconsin." Parent
I still think the store clerk should not have let her in the express lane. Parent
The store clerk is the important witness it seems to me. Parent
BTW, even accepting that story as being the whole truth and nothing but the truth, I still don't see disorderly conduct.
I would also add that if the store clerk said it was ok, then what the hell is the point of an express line?
Seems like our commenter was telling the truth about the 60 items though. Parent
But did you see stuff about the local TV reporter who showed up for a post-scrimage news conference with a Gators cap on? She got fired! Parent
So I want to know whether the cashier spoke up at some point to try to defuse the situation by saying that permission had been granted -- among the many things I still want to know on this. Parent
I guess no one was kind enough to teach that dime-dropper "sticks and stones may break my bones..." or "I'm rubber and your glue...." Parent
And it was also man v. woman, which adds another layer of concern.
When you're in a line at the store, and the angry person in line behind you, who is already yelling things at you, decides to take it to the next level, you are trapped with your cart in front of you, the next checkout station right next to you, and nowhere to go.
That would scare me, I can tell you, so I don't think I would be so quick to judge her for calling 911. Parent
In a well lit Piggly Wiggly with a cashier right there? C'mon Anne...dropping a dime is a far greater "assault" than calling somebody illiterate, fat, & ugly...I don't care how angry the words.
This lady wouldn't last 5 minutes in NY:) Parent
No, a good cop always arrests people....imposes punishment.... Parent
[Officer Effinger] explained that the guy continued to harass the woman until she called police.
How would you define it is my question.
For example, was my question harassing you?
Should I be charged with disorderly conduct for asking it? Parent
The issue was precisely that - what is "disorderly conduct?"
I'm still not seeing it, despite the possible embellishments in the story. Parent
"It was done first with a verbal warning, and then you have to escalate it because you're just not getting it that you're just not respecting people," Effinger said.
-- follows the graf re a reported earlier incident but that does not mean that the quote does so. (Another example of a story that needs better editing, but copy editors are fewer these days even in print media and always have been all too rare in broadcast media, the source of these stories.) Parent
Also, since the cop and the defendant have a history, and if the cop was in the store, I'm not sure if the cop meant he gave a verbal warning in this incident or if he meant he gave a verbal warning sometime in the past. Parent
"Lost" is lucky she only called 911 on him and didn't punch him in the kisser. Parent
Note to self...don't be so hard on jb:) Parent
BTW, why is the media not reporting the names of the two shoppers? What is there policy? No minors involved. No allegations involving rape etc. Parent
it does seem to observe a rule I heard Apu once quote on the Simpsons. "all pathetic single men. all cash. no chit chat." Parent
I'll take up shoplifting due to lack of cashiers before I use one of those again. Parent
My store now allows you to scan and bag as you go through the store, but you still have to "check out" and pay when you're finished; I think it's all packaged as "time-saving," but I think what it's really all about is saving them the expense of an employee's salary and benefits. Parent
Just like you want those damned health insurers to do!
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(one thing I have in common with the lovely, but apparently spoken for, Mariel Hemingway, seen a few times at the local organic food store bagging her own ...) Parent
BTW, my library is used extensively by our community. We have some working poor areas in our city and our people, young and old, use the computers for help in school, job searches, resume creation etc. The spaces are used for help people obtain educations skills and small group meetings. There are free beginning computer classes for people who need to acquire some basic skills as well as extensive programs for children.
Our librarians are knowledgeable and friendly so it would take a real jerk not to respond in kind. Parent
Ditto for the grocery store self-checkout. No not book chat, but it allows for another of those small human interactions in the week that are becoming increasingly less common. As with the banking situation of yore (though ATMs are a definite improvement all told). Parent
Same with the library; we have self-checkout but I never use it, partly because I always have a late fee to pay (heh) and also because I can't be bothered to figure it out. Maybe I'm just a gabby, nosey person--Mr. DO once said, "Good lord, do you talk to everybody?" after hearing me ask a train conductor about his recent foot surgery...Well, why not? Parent
I bet you write checks. Parent
And the day I avoid the grocery store entirely is senior-citizen discount day. Nothing against those only a bit older than me, but it is dangerous to be on the same street and in the parking lot with too many of them. Parent
They made a big mistake on my checking account, and debited $8,000... I was traveling and had big problems, pay phone booth in the mountains, on hold, running out of change.... hours...
When I got back home, all of their mistakes were wiped clean, as if they never happened, from my online account... I will never give up the paper record, and I will never trust the banks... Parent
Especially this one employee at my Pathmark...he has some kind of disability, the kindest most friendly person you're ever gonna meet...a real gem for the store, and always very helpful...I come up with sh*t to ask him because he just loves his job so much and I can tell it makes his day to help a customer. Parent
But ya might be getting more use out of 'em, and paying more fees...saw a blurb on the news this morning that more retailers and restaurants are going cash only, tired of getting leeched by the bank in this tight economy. And the onsite ATM's of course have a fee.
And others are offering discounts for people who pay cash...a long overdue development. Cash is where it's at, plastic is the devil. Parent
Cash and carry for life! Parent
Seriously hatin' on the LIRR and Metrocard machines too...if I miss one more train fighting to get it to take my legal tender I'm gonna go "Player Piano" on it's arse.
Bring back the human ticket and Metrocard clerks! Sh*t, bring back tokens, the Metrocard scanners suck too! Parent
I would be happy to make the same deal with the supermarket and never have to deal with a gum smacking teen aged checkout girl. Parent
Another reason to go human over machine...ya just might get some lovin' if you're game is tight:) Parent
Love the self checkout AND self-checkin at my library too.
Don't want anybody to lose their jobs because of it, but it is a nice way to get yer stuff in a hurry! I get tired of checkers who dally while joking with their friends while I'm in a hurry. And we seem to have loads of them at my local Safeway....which is most likely a management problem.... Parent
it may or may not notice the pack of skittles
In the event I forget to bring a re-usable bag to the grocery store (more often than not unfortunately), I still try to be as efficient as possible with plastic bags. That means no double bagging, and I stuff those things. If it breaks that's my problem, but for heavy items I usually just carry from the bottom and frankly, I've never had a bag break - but that's a risk I'm willing to take over time.
Stores routinely ignore or misinterpret this request, and aften I am busy unloading items from the cart to self-bag, or they do it along with me anyway. Parent
Virginia is tossing this idea around too. Parent
The Black Swan Darren Aronofsky Parent
so today I mixed up a cocktail of the no-chew stuff from the pet store (which she often ignores) and equal amounts of thai chili sauce, mexican chili pepper and crushed jalapenos and coated all grabbable surfaces.
when I went home to check at lunch the rug was untouched. Parent
Some days I wish I loved people instead of dogs ;-) Parent
Burn your tongue and make you cry hot, hot wings.
Worried about the bones it was all I could do to stop her from wolfing them down. I had to go in and get one she'd almost gotten down. The hot sauce was no impediment. Not even a second's hesitation.
Thankfully, her tastes are usually limited to foodstuffs, though she has on occasion gone after cork, wooden screwdriver handles and the odd leather item. Parent
New dog likes to lick though, so maybe it will work for her. Parent
on gulping and goldens. I had a wonderful old golden for a long time (he lived to be 20) and he was like ghost but even more so. he would never EVER touch anything he was not supposed to. he was the best dog as far as being "good" I have ever had.
so one day I was in the process of putting some chicken breasts in the broiler and it never occurred to me be worried about leaving them at perfect dog mouth height because of who he was. just as I turned around to add some salt and pepper or something out of the corner of my eye I just caught a blur as he grabbed and downed an entire chicken breast in one smooth swift motion. they looked at me with the most hilarious "omg what did it just do" look that I couldnt even yell at him it was so funny. Parent
Ginger amazed me the other day, even as I was yelling at her. She put her paws on the counter and licked my latte out of the mug without even spilling any. She can also pick a tomato slice out of a salad.
But yesterday she sat nice on the floor on the other side of the counter as I made my chicken sandwich. Never even tried to get it. Last week she was all over me. slow progress..... Parent
Now we have a Yorkie that can seize the high ground and has been known to whip a 20+ pound blue Persian twice her size.. Parent
Adorable grandpuppy has lots and lots of toys here, but of course, his favorites are the cats' toys, my slippers (replaced now by old flipflops), my wastebasket, and the corner of every rug.
With every day that passes, there are fewer and fewer rugs on the floor -- and more and more wastebaskets up on bookshelves.
And we still have a week to go. . . . Parent
I let her sleep in my room with me, and luckily she shows no interest in the books in my bedroom. Yet.
My own fault for not hearing 'puppy' when they told me 'three yr old golden retriever'. But I swear my old Ruffian was fine with whole house access by 3. She is getting slowly more house friendly though, so I hope to get out of lockdown before I'm 60. Parent
Oh, and he also Skypes them. We're just his techies. Parent
I feel sorry for my older dog who can't get to the couch in the living room anymore during the day. It was a favorite nap spot. Not fair to have him on lockdown too - I hope he likes his new sister enough to make it up to him. Seems to - they play a lot, though not as much as she would like. Parent
not Daisy. sweet stupid annoying Daisy. Ghost is my dog. Daisy is Ghosts dog. I put up with her for him because he totally loves her is is so much happier since I got her. Parent
Of course, it always is a terrible time to do this to our old cats, so we also are attempting to restrict one species to some rooms, another species to other rooms. The human species has lowest priority lately!
But thanks to the good folks here, I learned in an open thread a few weeks ago about puzzle toys for pups. Spouse just got a break from pre-school year prep (I'm still teaching a summer course and trying to prep for fall two weeks from now, yikes) to get to a pet store and came home with such a toy.
Grandpuppy just got it and likes it. Momentary peace. Until it's time for another walk! or a cat walks by the other side of the door! or a human comes in sight! it's fun to be a puppy! Parent
We also have the child gate, but this is a very big puppy already (big for a Sheltie, or according to his breeder, he could have been a show dog).
So he outgrew that some time ago. That was an interesting day . . . reminiscent of those days long ago when his human who is my progeny suddenly appeared at my side, when he had been in his crib. That day was the cause of whirlwind childproofing of the house, similar to what we are doing today! Parent
world nut daily Conservative superstar Ann Coulter today was dropped as a keynote speaker for WND's "Taking America Back National Conference" next month because of her plan to address an event titled "HOMOCON" sponsored by the homosexual Republican group GOProud that promotes same-sex marriage and military service for open homosexuals. -- Asked by Farah why she was speaking to GOProud, Coulter said: "They hired me to give a speech, so I'm giving a speech. I do it all the time."
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Asked by Farah why she was speaking to GOProud, Coulter said: "They hired me to give a speech, so I'm giving a speech. I do it all the time."
you really must see it.
a response on another site:
Ann Coulter = Saint Judy? Not. On. My. Watch. B****es. It is on like Donkey Cong, Conservaqueers. How dare you? I'm taking this up with the union.
Not. On. My. Watch. B****es.
It is on like Donkey Cong, Conservaqueers. How dare you? I'm taking this up with the union.
8:00 a.m. Wake up. Wonder where you are. 8:01 a.m. Realize you are lying on 100 percent cotton sheets of at least a 300 count, so don't panic; you're not slumming. 8:07 a.m. Make a high protein breakfast while watching the Today show. Wonder if the stories you've heard about Matt Lauer are true. Decide they must be. 8:45 a.m. Climb into red Z4 and try not to look too much like Barbie driving one of her accessories as you pull out of your underground parking. Revos or Armanis? Go with Revos. 10:30 a.m. Hair appointment for lowlights and cut. Purchase of Aveda anti-humectant pomade. 1:00 p.m. Meet someone for whom you only know his waist, chest and penis size from AOL M4M chat for lunch at a hot, new restaurant. Because the maître d' recognizes you from a gay bar, you are whisked past the Christian heterosexual couples who have been waiting patiently for a table since 12:30. 2:30 p.m. "Dessert at your place." Find out, once again, people lie on AOL. 3:33 p.m. Assume complete control of the U.S., state, and local governments (in addition to other nations' governments); destroy all healthy Christian marriages; recruit all children grades Kindergarten through 12 into your amoral, filthy lifestyle; secure complete control of the media, starting with sitcoms; molest innocent children; give AIDS to as many people as you can; host a pornographic "art" exhibit at your local art museum; and turn people away from Jesus, causing them to burn forever in Hell. 4:10 p.m. Time permitting, bring about the general decline of Western Civilization and look like you are having way too much fun doing it. 4:30 p.m. Take a disco-nap to prevent facial wrinkles from the stress of world conquest and being so terribly witty.
8:01 a.m. Realize you are lying on 100 percent cotton sheets of at least a 300 count, so don't panic; you're not slumming.
8:07 a.m. Make a high protein breakfast while watching the Today show. Wonder if the stories you've heard about Matt Lauer are true. Decide they must be.
8:45 a.m. Climb into red Z4 and try not to look too much like Barbie driving one of her accessories as you pull out of your underground parking. Revos or Armanis? Go with Revos.
10:30 a.m. Hair appointment for lowlights and cut. Purchase of Aveda anti-humectant pomade.
1:00 p.m. Meet someone for whom you only know his waist, chest and penis size from AOL M4M chat for lunch at a hot, new restaurant. Because the maître d' recognizes you from a gay bar, you are whisked past the Christian heterosexual couples who have been waiting patiently for a table since 12:30.
2:30 p.m. "Dessert at your place." Find out, once again, people lie on AOL.
3:33 p.m. Assume complete control of the U.S., state, and local governments (in addition to other nations' governments); destroy all healthy Christian marriages; recruit all children grades Kindergarten through 12 into your amoral, filthy lifestyle; secure complete control of the media, starting with sitcoms; molest innocent children; give AIDS to as many people as you can; host a pornographic "art" exhibit at your local art museum; and turn people away from Jesus, causing them to burn forever in Hell.
4:10 p.m. Time permitting, bring about the general decline of Western Civilization and look like you are having way too much fun doing it.
4:30 p.m. Take a disco-nap to prevent facial wrinkles from the stress of world conquest and being so terribly witty.
Pretty similar to mine except I put even less effort into my day. Parent
Justice Dept drops investigation of Delay.
If I have to choose between having effective anti-virus and having a Tiwtter link on the site, I'm with anti-virus. But that just means I read and write on the site less.
It seems (to me, anyway) that this is sorta limited only to Kaspersky antivirus which is, BTW, quite effective at weeding out the nasties. I can't exclude that other anti0virus programs are having similar issues though perhaps not as pronounced as mine. Parent
possibly more so because I dont tweet. Parent
I doubt it is twitter. Parent
At my grandmother's funeral my Uncle spoke about watching her bloom three distinct times in her life. I'm thinkin it is time to bloom again.
It took a while to get back to form but it feels great. Now I struggle with having to take it easy on the foot, and I'm chomping at the bit to get back out there. It's amazing how you begin to rely on that routine, and how it can improve your mood so much, especially if you are like me and do everything outside (vitamin D) instead of in a gym. Parent
And typically, it appears a lone dime-dropper is to blame for throwing these poor slob's lives upside down...hopefully they find a life before dragging others through the ringer. Parent
We were lil' felons...who knew until now?
Kids of today, I'm so sorry...so very very sorry. Parent
None of these activities would be acceptable today.
Kdog, we are just humped. Parent
I've done pretty much everything on that list and I am much much younger than you. The one exception being the hunting thing, but I was doing target riflery (with a real gun) at that age. And instead of baseball we usually played pick-up soccer, kickball or dodgeball. But I think that's mostly a matter of personal preference.
The world has not come to an end yet. Parent
Somehow I survived and I can not remember a single warming session that I did not richly deserve. Parent
But watching all the "play dates" and structured games persuades me that the new generations will have missed a lot of important things. Parent
We played at construction sites too.
Well, there were a couple of broken arms as I recall. Parent
Heh. Back then, my mom would say, "go outside and play and don't come home until I call you!"
I guess child protective services would be all over that now. Parent
We had a sort of tree fort (slabs of wood nailed into a tree) when we were kids. I tried to climb that too recently but it was rotted through... Parent
You put yourself and others at more risk driving to work than these two bartenders with pyro skills could in a lifetime, imo. Parent
Secondly, the moran bartenders apparently started a friggin' fire in the bar that night. Not suprisingly, starting fires in bars - even small fires that are quickly extinguished - is pretty heavily frowned upon.
2 charged with setting fire at Jimmy's in Herndon Two men, one from Herndon and the other from Manassas, have been charged with multiple felonies in connection with an accidental fire at Jimmy's Old Towne Tavern in Herndon on Saturday, shortly after midnight. Fairfax County fire investigators charged Tegee Rogers, 33, of Herndon and Justin Fedorchak, 39, of Manassas each with three felonies; manufacturing and using and explosive device; setting a fire capable of spreading and burning or destroying a meeting house. They also were charged with several statewide fire prevention code misdemeanors. "Two employees were performing some sort of the entertainment that involved fire and it got out of hand," a fire and rescue spokesman said. Fire investigators said because it was discovered early, fire damage to the property is only estimated at $200. Both subjects were released on a $1,000 bond.
Two men, one from Herndon and the other from Manassas, have been charged with multiple felonies in connection with an accidental fire at Jimmy's Old Towne Tavern in Herndon on Saturday, shortly after midnight.
Fairfax County fire investigators charged Tegee Rogers, 33, of Herndon and Justin Fedorchak, 39, of Manassas each with three felonies; manufacturing and using and explosive device; setting a fire capable of spreading and burning or destroying a meeting house. They also were charged with several statewide fire prevention code misdemeanors.
"Two employees were performing some sort of the entertainment that involved fire and it got out of hand," a fire and rescue spokesman said.
Fire investigators said because it was discovered early, fire damage to the property is only estimated at $200. Both subjects were released on a $1,000 bond.
Otherwise it is a great place to live (well except for the costs, taxes, traffic....) Parent
just an fyi :-) Parent
An emotionally ill detainee still being held at the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, was first recommended for release by the Pentagon in 2004, according to a federal judge whose ruling ordering that the man be freed was made public this week. Despite the Pentagon's recommendation, it wasn't until 2007 that the Bush administration adopted the military assessment and put Adnan Abdul Latif, now about 34, on an approved transfer list. By then, however, the issue of transferring prisoners to Yemen, Osama bin Laden's ancestral homeland, was mired in a diplomatic standoff over whether the Arabian Peninsula nation could provide security assurances and rehabilitate suspected radicalized Guantanamo detainees. Kennedy first ordered the Obama administration to arrange for Latif's release "forthwith'' on July 21. But a Justice Department spokesman, Dean Boyd, said government lawyers were still deciding Tuesday night whether to appeal to a higher court. "Why they continue to defend holding him is unfathomable," said David Remes, Latif's free-of-charge attorney. "Adnan's case reflects the Obama administration's complete failure to bring the Guantanamo litigation under control." Latif's lawyer said the Yemeni has spent long periods of his captivity in the Guantanamo psychiatric ward after repeated suicide attempts and reacted with despair to the judge's ruling. "He sees death as his only way out," Remes said.
"Why they continue to defend holding him is unfathomable," said David Remes, Latif's free-of-charge attorney. "Adnan's case reflects the Obama administration's complete failure to bring the Guantanamo litigation under control."
Latif's lawyer said the Yemeni has spent long periods of his captivity in the Guantanamo psychiatric ward after repeated suicide attempts and reacted with despair to the judge's ruling.
"He sees death as his only way out," Remes said.
Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal is a Wahhabi, Cordoba House Imam Feisal Abdul Raul, is a Sufi.
Sufis are about as non-violent as you can get. A mystical Sunni sect that has been oppressed by everyone including their Muslim brethren.
An added dimension to the hatred... Parent
I bet he's got no qualms with cashing his checks though...lol. Parent
Cowboys vs Redskins
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I gotta say, youtube is one of the best things about the web. Parent
If so, today's the 90th birthday of the 19th.
FWIW
KIDDING!! Parent
Plurality, my azz. Parent