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Lazio Out, Paladino to Face Cuomo

By Jeralyn, Section Elections
Posted on Tue Sep 14, 2010 at 11:30:53 PM EST
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New York is all but assured of having a Democratic Governor in November, thanks to Carl Paladino beating Rick Lazio in the primary. Cuomo is a lock. Keep going TeaPartiers, you're handing victory to the Dems. This is getting quite amusing.

Charlie Rangel also sailed to victory in the primary.

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    I would like (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 07:11:20 AM EST
    to propose a Coffee Party - or a Dry Martini Party - to challenge Blue Dog and other sad-sack-corporate-lackey-centrist Democrats.

    Instead of just ridiculing the tea-party folks, we should take a page from their book. They are actually doing something. Progressive democrats do practically nothing but sigh and malign republicans;

    You have a good point... (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by kdog on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 08:23:06 AM EST
    where is our offshoot party on the left side?  The tea party, even if they don't win d*ck in Nov, pulls the Repubs rightward...we could use a dose of the same on the left side.

    We've long made fun of the "lockstep" mentality of Brand R...looks like Brand D are the ones in lockstep behind an out of touch party now.

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    Some of it is due to the fact (none / 0) (#10)
    by jondee on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 08:45:29 AM EST
    that the more leftward leaning elements contain a hard-hitting enough critique of the corporate sponsors that, on the whole, their message is a lot less 'media friendly' than the comparatively unfocused, generalized rage against "the government" that emanates from the Tea Party quarter..

    The Tea Party has had a carved out niche in the spotlight for years. Who are most of them really other than Repubs who are too embarrassed to admit that they voted for Bush and still pissed and disenfranchised over McCain getting the nomination?  

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    True... (none / 0) (#12)
    by kdog on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 09:26:10 AM EST
    we'd never get the love from MSNBC that Fox News showers on the Tea Party, and I don't know if George Soros could bankroll the whole thing...but we could use one!

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    He hear that's (none / 0) (#16)
    by jondee on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 09:33:49 AM EST
    the theme of Nader's new book: a group of conscience-stricken, socially conscious multi-billionaires get together and social change, romance and comedy ensues. Or some such thing..

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    I'd (none / 0) (#18)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 09:40:55 AM EST
    read it.

    Have you seen this?

    Obama and McCain parrot each other

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    was the point of that (none / 0) (#19)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 09:42:58 AM EST
    we should have voted for Nader and elected McCain?


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    The point... (none / 0) (#27)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 03:45:13 PM EST
    is that Obama was portrayed as significantly different from McCain.
    He isn't. And it is illuminating to hear him say so in his own words.

    My favorite quote from this link is this one from Obama:

    "The only bills that I voted for, for the most part, uh, since I've been in the Senate were introduced by Republicans or George Bush."

    And that is the Obama we are seeing in action.

    But I also think that the premise of your comment, that it would be wrong to vote for a candidate with integrity who represents your views out of fear of not electing the least-worst among the others is ultimately dangerous and disastrous.

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    Great Logic (none / 0) (#28)
    by squeaky on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 03:50:04 PM EST
    And by the same logic you are no different from a tea partier.

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    probably wont surprise you (none / 0) (#29)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 03:51:31 PM EST
    to know that I think a vote for a "Nader" is dangerous and disastrous.  a theory I hope to see illustrated this fall when the full mooners the GOP has nominated again and again this year prove to be to far out of the main stream to be elected.

    and Obama may not be FDR but he is also not McCain.  by a long shot.


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    From (none / 0) (#30)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 04:11:39 PM EST
    what I have read, the tea-partiers were not afraid to vote for someone that represented how they felt. They didn't give in to the fear that voting for the candidate they believed in would result in having a democrat being elected.

    I would like a progressive alternative to the current crop of democrats. Voting for someone who represents your views feels good. Like you're participating in a democracy instead of a shell game.

    At the least, a progressive challenger unseating a blue dog or corporate lackey would have the result of moving the party to the progressive corner instead of having it continue to languish in the land of the anemic.

    I would like to see a vibrant tea party of the left.

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    I see The Tea Party (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by jondee on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 04:56:53 PM EST
    as primarily an illusory "alternative", which is, more than anything else, a new career opportunity to exploit on the part of members of the hard Right who've been part of the Rethug coalition for decades - and aren't pushing the party rightward any harder than they have been all along - but who were afraid to be a associated with a certain radioactive shrub with a 30% approval rating after 2008.

    The Tea Party alternative appeal is composed of smoke and mirrors, a catchy new brand name, a pr campaign targeting unfocused right wing anger and little else.

    If they represented any kind of actual alternative to the status quo, they wouldn't get half the attention and contributions they're getting now. They get most of that primarily because they're NOT an alternative.

     

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    Don't know.... (none / 0) (#32)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 05:22:28 PM EST
    Obama may not be FDR but he is also not McCain.

    Frankly, I don't know who the f he is.

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    If (none / 0) (#17)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 15, 2010 at 09:38:52 AM EST
    we had some leadership - even one outspoken person - who was able to begin mobilizing people - the media would follow.

    I just wonder whether the left is just too comatose to be mobilized by anything or anyone. The wars don't seem to move them into action. Civilian casualties, waste, unending funding... just too commonplace. The increasing disparity between rich and poor doesn't get anybody particularly excited either.

    So we just sit back and watch an occasional coffin returning and reach for the remote.

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    Somewhat in our defense... (