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    Open Left shutting down (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by waldenpond on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:45:36 PM EST
    Too bad.  I had been reading regularly since Bowers left.

    I'll miss Mike Lux, (5.00 / 2) (#128)
    by brodie on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:54:03 PM EST
    one of the more reasonable voices and a decent fellow.  Some Bowers and Sirota pieces were good.  

    Otherwise, not exactly a warm and inviting place with at least one thin-skinned, talkative diarist and several rude regular posters.

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    Not to mention the (none / 0) (#173)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 12:34:36 AM EST
    rather spectacular misogyny.

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    really (none / 0) (#32)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:47:31 PM EST
    too bad

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    Why did Bowers move to DK? (none / 0) (#47)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:27:03 PM EST
    From Paul Rosenberg's GBCW (none / 0) (#81)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:00:30 PM EST
    at Open Left:  

    But I've always craved online writing because of the immediacy of hearing what people think of what you've written, because there is so much to be learned.  It's axiomatic, really, that the group mind is orders of magnitude smarter than the individual mind, so the smartest thing the individual mind can do is find the best way to benefit from the group mind.

    I find this somewhat amusing.  WWTBDS?

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    I have a solution... (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:11:04 PM EST
    treehouse dorms...who wouldn't wanna live in one of those?

    Might make the climb home difficult after a kegger though...too much liability.

    sports joke (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:11:58 PM EST
    Johnson Administration - presidency of Lyndon Johnson, 1963-69; "johnson administration" - something Brett Favre doesn't do well.

    from FakeAPStylebook

    I think I get (none / 0) (#105)
    by brodie on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:35:35 PM EST
    the reference, which is pretty amusing, if my sports joke antennae are in their proper upright position ...

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    Tens of thousands without heat... (none / 0) (#1)
    by desertswine on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 12:29:07 PM EST
    during the coldest nights of the winter, sub-zero temperatures everywhere; a massive failure of a crappy system.

    On Thursday New Mexico Gas Company officials reported nearly 32,000 customers statewide were without gas causing Governor Susana Martinez to declare a state of emergency.

    The primary areas affected by the outages include Albuquerque, Bernalillo, Espanola, Otero County, Taos, Red River, Questa, Silver City, Santa Clara Pueblo, Okway Owingeh Pueblo and portions of San Ildefonso Pueblo.



    No heat... (none / 0) (#12)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:12:22 PM EST
    is a bad scene...Mother Nature is really giving us the business ain't she?

    Hopefully the utilities get 'er going asahp...I will say when I lost my electric/heat in one of our storms, the hardhats busted their arse in bad conditions to get us going, and I'm sure it was no small feat.  Nothing compared to the scale of these outages & shortages though.

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    They think they'll have the gas supply... (none / 0) (#172)
    by desertswine on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 10:32:05 PM EST
    resumed sometime on Monday.  Three nights of freezing.  Luckily the temperatures are easing.

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    this happens pretty much (none / 0) (#37)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:59:17 PM EST
    every winter now.  in 09 when the monster ice storm hit the midwest there were people in arkansas without power for months.

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    Remember when (none / 0) (#127)
    by sj on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:53:37 PM EST
    this was a regulated utility?  Where investors made small, but consistent profits?  And where the primary function was providing power not making a profit?

    I lived in some poor and/or isolated areas when I was a kid.  Power outages were very, very rare (and at that time all cabling was above ground) and I only recall once when the duration was overnight.

    Now I expect to lose power multiple times in in the course of a year.  Fortunately for me, the duration as been relatively brief.

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    worth posting twice (none / 0) (#2)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 12:29:16 PM EST
    We Are All Egyptians

    "If I die," he added, "this is for my country."


    ps (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 12:41:45 PM EST
    David Brooks is off today. His column will appear on Sunday.

    thank god

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    Well, you can't be sure with those NYT guys: (none / 0) (#33)
    by KeysDan on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:50:21 PM EST
    Tom Friedman gave us a Christmas present (told us he would be taking a four-month book leave) and then he took it back.  Have had two columns since December 25--hard to keep a good man's nose in the book.  

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    I can hardly wait until sunday (none / 0) (#34)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:52:49 PM EST
    to find out what pearls of wisdom Bobo has on the subject.

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    I thought we were all (none / 0) (#24)
    by Farmboy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:39:53 PM EST
    Iraqis, and Afghans, and Kuwaitis, and Panamanians, and Rhodesians, and Vietnamese, and, and, and...

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    We are the world (none / 0) (#27)
    by ruffian on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:42:32 PM EST
    we (none / 0) (#29)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:43:54 PM EST
    are versatile

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    We (none / 0) (#48)
    by Farmboy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:27:56 PM EST
    are going to send our men and women in uniform to yet another country to yet again spread some good old-fashioned US-brand democracy - 'cause that always turns out so well for everyone concerned.

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    Oh please, God, don't let this happen. (none / 0) (#65)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:47:40 PM EST
    Nah (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:48:23 PM EST
    We don't have anyone left to go.

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    you mean in egypt? (none / 0) (#66)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:47:50 PM EST
    I dont think so

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    Never fear (none / 0) (#69)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:50:02 PM EST
    The US Senate is on the case.

    I feel better already.

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    this might be important (none / 0) (#71)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:52:27 PM EST
    for instance if they really decide to cut off funds.

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    "We can't afford that." (none / 0) (#99)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:29:39 PM EST
    Thanks, John.  

    In a floor speech, McCain warned that the situation in Egypt could turn into a "genuine massacre."
    "We cannot afford that, and we must do everything in our power to see that it stops," McCain said.


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    Obviously (none / 0) (#109)
    by CoralGables on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:38:53 PM EST
    a caring soul.

    Although, unbeknownst to us, perhaps John is Egyptian.

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    Ha. You are a "birther." (none / 0) (#114)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:40:48 PM EST
    heck (none / 0) (#116)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:41:26 PM EST
    he probably has to return to his sarcophagus every night.  he probably has one in each of his 17 residences.

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    But, maybe the US Senate should (none / 0) (#134)
    by KeysDan on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 04:06:30 PM EST
    pull a copy of the Camp David Accords (1979) out of their file cabinets.  Annual subsidies in the amount of $billions (grants and for purchases of US materiel) for both Israel and Egypt were a part of the deal.   We don't need to help undo the peace agreements.

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    We are already there (none / 0) (#73)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:53:15 PM EST
    Does the U.S. military have bases (none / 0) (#115)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:41:21 PM EST
    in Egypt?  

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    Yes. (none / 0) (#136)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 04:22:15 PM EST
    Where? (none / 0) (#140)
    by Wile ECoyote on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 04:51:32 PM EST
    Flew into Egypt several times in my career.  Never saw one.  

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    there is a multinational base thing (none / 0) (#142)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 04:55:58 PM EST
    near El Gorah.  I believe.  not sure if that qualifies.

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    Multi national peacekeeping re Israel. (none / 0) (#144)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 05:09:02 PM EST
    You may be correct. Looks like we have (none / 0) (#143)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 05:08:28 PM EST
    military personnel in Egypt but no U.S. military base there.  (relying on Wiki.)

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    They would be with (none / 0) (#148)
    by Wile ECoyote on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 06:48:19 PM EST
    the Embassy.

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    They are not (none / 0) (#168)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 08:42:31 PM EST
    One of our friends went as a W4 helicopter pilot to help train.  The other went in an infantry slot and was involved in training the shake down of vehicles going into and out of Gaza.

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    I think NAS Sigonella, Sicily (none / 0) (#155)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 07:12:11 PM EST
    is the nearest military facility we have that would have direct access to Egypt without needing over flight permission.

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    Temporary bases in the sinai already (none / 0) (#160)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 07:50:37 PM EST
    manned part of the year by US troops on a 6th Month deployment. In the early 80s, 3/502 Infantry, 101st Airborne Division, lost more than 400 in a crash in Gander, Newfoundland.

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    Correct (none / 0) (#169)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 08:43:31 PM EST
    Name the base. (none / 0) (#181)
    by Wile ECoyote on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 08:12:55 AM EST
    The only one is a UN peacekeeping base in the Sinai.  

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    The MNF isn'r under the auspices (none / 0) (#182)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 08:26:50 AM EST
    of the UN, so it's an unanswerable question. MNF operates independent of the UN, in accord with the Dayton Treaty.

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    Ugh... Camo David Accords. (none / 0) (#183)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 08:32:33 AM EST
    Need more coffee.

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    'camp' (none / 0) (#184)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 08:33:01 AM EST
    We have had two close friends (none / 0) (#167)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 08:38:09 PM EST
    who have done a year tour in Egypt in the past ten years.  We don't have bases but we send active duty there to advise and train the egyptian military.

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    Didn't this (none / 0) (#150)
    by Zorba on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 06:54:49 PM EST
    all sort of start with JFK?  "Ich bin ein Berliner."

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    A request to the TL masses (none / 0) (#3)
    by Dadler on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 12:31:18 PM EST
    (And I realize I did this once before, but that was a late night open thread, if I recall correctly, which, let's face it, I manage to do less and less these days.)

    Anyone's favorite San Francisco restaurants, hang out spots, attractions, off the beaten track gems, etc., and other Bay Area stuff too, would be much appreciated.  We'll be living in Millbrae, a stone's throw from the SF airport.  That's one good thing about this move: retaining easy and quick airport access, which I've been spoiled on here in San Diego, with our tiny airport ten minutes away.

    Thanks all. Peace.  Time to go pack some stuff.  Nothing more fun than that.  Blah.

    San Diego airport is my favorite (none / 0) (#5)
    by MKS on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 12:42:14 PM EST
    Easy in and out--not too crowded, decent flights....

    S.F. has so many good restaurants....North Beach is a fun place with good places to eat.

    BART goes to Millbrae, no?  BART is awesome.

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    last stop on the south BART line (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Dadler on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:11:36 PM EST
    that was a huge selling point for us.  i can roll five minutes down the hill, drop my wife off at the station, and she can cruise into the city in a half hour and be two blocks from her office.  she may move into our new, and still empty house next week instead of staying in a hotel downtown as she did this week -- just so she can ride the train in.    

    but DAMN I MISS HER!  i'm still down here for February with our son.  gonna be the longest month of our married lives, seeing each other four days this month.  i am the biggest love/attention hound in the world's kennel. just pitiful.

    This long distance dedication goes out to her. I love you, Franny.  (LINK)

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    Pretty good poker room right near (none / 0) (#112)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:39:21 PM EST
    the BART exit... Artichoke Joe's... and bunches of good restaurants.

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    Eat, drink... (none / 0) (#20)
    by desertswine on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:30:14 PM EST
    TY (none / 0) (#120)
    by Dadler on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:44:08 PM EST
    Love the tapas.

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    Breakfast at the (none / 0) (#31)
    by ruffian on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:45:52 PM EST
    Buena Vista Cafe, near Fisherman's wharf. May be more touristy these days - I haven't been there in 30 years. But it was the best breakfast ever.

    Crabmeat on sourdough sandwich from a street vendor. Another meal that lingers in the memory!

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    Had an early dinner there last week (none / 0) (#124)
    by Dadler on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:45:24 PM EST
    Wasn't as touristy as I though it'd be. One of the few places I'd been to before that I remembered, and we stayed right near it.  Never done breakfast there, tho. Will have to give it a try.

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    Be sure to have (none / 0) (#156)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 07:15:17 PM EST
    drinks at the bar at the top of the Mark Hopkins..
    Do it around sunset and catch the sun shining on the Golden Gate bridge. Fog and clouds underneath it as a bonus.

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    Yes! I forgot I did that the same trip. Beautiful. (none / 0) (#170)
    by ruffian on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 08:50:21 PM EST
    Take your son to the SF (5.00 / 1) (#175)
    by caseyOR on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 12:43:29 AM EST
    Exploratorium. It is a very hands-on science museum. He will love it, and so will you.

    When I lived in SF and my nephew visited, he loved riding the ferry from downtown SF to Sausalito and back. He was 10 at the time, and the ferry ride was a huge hit.

    Also, of, course, SF Giants' games.

    The museums are first-rate. The deYoung is a particular favorite of mine.

    And there is a great farmers market on Saturdays at the Ferry Building.

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    Add; Palace of the Legion of Honor. (none / 0) (#189)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 10:17:19 AM EST
    Kid might be bored, but the setting is spectacular.

    Also add:  Pier 124.  Photo archive museum.  Need a reservation.

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    If ever in Chinatown (none / 0) (#56)
    by Chuck0 on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:40:07 PM EST
    go to 823 Clay Street for lunch or dinner. It's downstairs off the street. I've been eating there every time I'm in SF for about 15 years. Can't tell you the name of the restaurant because it's never had the same name twice. But very good, very authentic. Most of the clientele are local Chinese.

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    TY (none / 0) (#125)
    by Dadler on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:46:18 PM EST
    Will have to give it a try.  

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    Some faves (none / 0) (#164)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 08:02:25 PM EST
    California Academy of Sciences (in beautiful new building, and great exhibits).

    City Lights bookstore - a historic landmark indeed.

    Tadich Grill (order the hangtown fry for some local flavor).

    Have fun!!

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    Here's a really good headline: (none / 0) (#6)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 12:42:29 PM EST
    And here I thought (none / 0) (#151)
    by Zorba on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 06:57:28 PM EST
    that the headline meant that Jesse James had kicked Kat Von D.

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    the sensible practical approach (none / 0) (#8)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 12:48:35 PM EST
    Politics Daily has learned that the Palin family lawyer, Alaska attorney Thomas Van Flein, has filed applications to the United States Patent and Trademark Office to trademark "Sarah Palin®" and "Bristol Palin®."


    For "Right of Publicity" control, maybe? (none / 0) (#13)
    by EL seattle on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:12:32 PM EST
    It might come in handy if folks want to produce and sell Sarah Palin Halloween costumes or Bristol Palin fetish wear.  Maybe the (r) symbol might give the Palin's quicker control over the unauthorized marketing of their likenesses?

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    as I read elsewhere (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:22:50 PM EST
    They're taking the intellectual out of intellectual property.


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    seriously though (none / 0) (#16)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:24:28 PM EST
    I can see her becoming the new Disney of intellectual property.  every Palin halloween costume will have to pay.

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    How did J miss this? (5.00 / 1) (#118)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:42:32 PM EST
    It's a pesky issue. (none / 0) (#201)
    by EL seattle on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 12:19:02 PM EST
    This sort of thing pops up every now and then, in different variations, with different sets of good guys and bad guys.

    Here's a brief internet piece from the pre-Palin era:
     Slate - Torie Bosch - Oct. 30, 2007

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    Serious problems (none / 0) (#9)
    by CST on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:03:51 PM EST
    Starting to arise from all this snow.  It just keeps coming and coming, with more on the way, no where to put it all, and buildings are falling apart.

    "More than 70 buildings, mostly flat-roofed commercial structures, have had their roofs partially or completely collapse under snow and ice accumulation, or have been evacuated because of concerns over structural damage"

    Link

    and this is just in MA.

    Shockingly, no one has been seriously injured.  More snow coming this weekend.

    How much snow have we had this year?  More than Nate Robinson, less than Shaq.  Not much has melted either.

    Happened to our... (none / 0) (#90)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:14:56 PM EST
    mfg rep equivalent in MA's warehouse, we're shipping some of their orders from NY till they get a new roof.

    Glad we got less than you guys...losing the porch awning was enough...if the roof caves in I'm tying my sh*t to the end of a stick and going hobo headed south...you win Mother Nature, you win:)

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    south?! (none / 0) (#96)
    by nycstray on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:19:55 PM EST
    come west young man! gonna be 70 and sunny tomorrow :) already started this year's garden!

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    If the roof caves in... (none / 0) (#110)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:38:56 PM EST
    I'll keep southwest in mind...you picked a good winter to be outta Dodge young lady.

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    Starting seeds this weekend (none / 0) (#133)
    by waldenpond on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 04:04:28 PM EST
    My son and a friend are out front right now leveling the ground for final placement of step stones and brick lined beds.

    I can't wait to get seeds.  I know it's always good to get rain in CA, but I'm glad it's supposed to be an early spring.  We're only in the 50's up north so we have a ways to go.

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    lower 60s so far today (5.00 / 1) (#141)
    by nycstray on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 04:53:34 PM EST
    I'm planning a greens garden at the moment in a new spot. I say we deserve an early spring after last years long rainy one :) Heard awhile back we had enough snow pack, so I'm going to kick back and enjoy!

    I have more seed arriving tomorrow hopefully and another order next week. My first round of seed potatoes are ready to plant, so that should happen this weekend. I love dirt :)

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    That was quick (none / 0) (#137)
    by waldenpond on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 04:43:02 PM EST
    They quit already.  Decided they'd rather walk than do work in exchange for the car.  ha!

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    I know we had a ton of snow in 95-96 (none / 0) (#113)
    by CST on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:40:34 PM EST
    but I don't remember it all coming at once.

    We are used to the bad storms, but usually it has time to melt off a bit before the next one comes.  I don't remember ever being hammered with storm after storm like this.  There have been a few warmer days in the middle, but not enough.

    Plus any rain on your roof will just make the snow heavier at this point, since it won't be enough to melt it, and then at night it freezes into denser, heavy snow.

    The grass is always greener.  If it's not a blizzard it's a hurricaine or a tornado.  But I grant you, this $hit has gotten old...

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    I remember 95-96... (none / 0) (#129)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:55:06 PM EST
    I had a rear wheel drive '87 Mercury Cougar...fishtailing at every corner.  

    One big blizzard that year too, like 2 feet.  Was at a bar when it hit...we had a pick-up tackle football game in the street...good times.  Loooong walk home though.

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    Yankee news: (none / 0) (#10)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:10:43 PM EST
    Didn't (none / 0) (#97)
    by CoralGables on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:25:39 PM EST
    want all the Clemens questions being thrown his way on Valentine's Day in Tampa?

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    Interesting article re history of (none / 0) (#14)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:20:23 PM EST
    U.S. $$ to Egypt, Egypt's military, and current influence of U.S. due to these $$.  AP via NYT

    That is so much honey soaking though (none / 0) (#35)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:54:37 PM EST
    Who our leaders are and who runs our Pentagon and its overseerers is volatile too.  Imagine if we had a really crazy Neocon President and a really crazy Neocon Secretary of Defense and Egypt was needing us like it does now and could perhaps be useful in many Middle Eastern ways.  Like say you needed someone to torture for you.  None of this should be hard to imagine.

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    Given all that has gone on (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by Anne on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:21:48 PM EST
    in the last decade, it's hard to read this:

    In New York, Human Rights Watch on Friday demanded the release of more than 30 human rights activists and journalists, including one of its employees, Daniel Williams. They were seized Thursday by security forces who raided the Hisham Mubarak Law Center in Cairo.

    Among those arrested were researchers for Amnesty International, the former director of the law center, nine lawyers and French and Portuguese journalists, Human Rights Watch reported.

    The watchdog group said in a statement that Egyptian lawyers believe the detainees are being held at Camp 75, a military facility on the edge of Cairo.

    "At a time when serious human rights abuses are taking place in Egypt, the raid on the offices of the Hisham Mubarak Center and detention our colleagues is deeply disturbing," said Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch. "But it is totally unacceptable that they have given us no information about their whereabouts. The authorities must urgently clarify where they are holding our researcher and other colleagues, and they should release all of them now."

    The Egyptian authorities also have not provided embassies with any information about where the detainees are being kept or given a reason for their arrest, Human Rights Watch said.

    and not feel really, really uncomfortable about who will be transitioning this government - not to mention uncomfortable about our own cerdibility on issues of democracy when we have engaged in this kind of activity, as well.

    There's only so much "control" that can be brought to bear by outside influences, but given that Suleiman was our point-man on renditioning to torture, I don't know how reasonable it is to give him even nominal power over the government.

    I keep getting this sick feeling that we'd much rather have someone like Suleiman, whom we could call on to help us with our dirty work, than someone truly committed to democratic reform.

    Would be happy to be talked out of the way I feel...

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    Oh...I think we'd rather have Suleiman too (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:37:09 PM EST
    Anne....not me and you,....the other we, the important we that gets to say what we want and what we will have.  But nobody is counseling or finger wagging Anne, they said so :)

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    Wow, we hope Bradley Manning (none / 0) (#54)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:39:11 PM EST
    has no friends in low lying State Department cable places right now though.

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    "We" are sure doing a heck of a (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:41:25 PM EST
    lot of talking.  Gibbs.  Obama press conference this a.m.  Mullen.  Biden.  Yak yak yak.

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    So much to say about virtually (none / 0) (#59)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:43:37 PM EST
    nothing of enormous importance or substance.

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    I believe the "we"... (5.00 / 3) (#117)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:41:50 PM EST
    you guys are referring is called the "royal we".

    The Dude: "We dropped off the damn money..."
    The Big Lebowski: "We?"
    The Dude: "I! The Royal 'we!' You know, the editorial..."


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    no problem (none / 0) (#36)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:56:24 PM EST
    we have lots of friends in low places

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    ps (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:00:13 PM EST
    and today they are all in the process of changing their underwear.

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    How true Captain (none / 0) (#39)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:01:11 PM EST
    We always have Jordan too and Turkey to some extent and they love us just as much while we actually love them more than Egypt....well except they don't have a cool military we can tuck under our wing and knuckled rub :)  It gets hard though Captain if you only have one special one.  It gets harder to shuffle the renditioned around and ghost them.

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    You just couldn't make this up (none / 0) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:27:17 PM EST
    Geithner proposes 100 year bond :)  We've leveraged everything else 40 times over, let's leverage the stuff that we hope is there after we are dead.  I mean, we can't take it with us.

    100 years? (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:33:06 PM EST
    How large of a sucker would one have to be to buy one of those???  

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    An optimist (none / 0) (#40)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:01:34 PM EST
    Gift for newborn Amuricans. (none / 0) (#58)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:41:50 PM EST
    The gift of debt (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:44:19 PM EST
    Optimists... (none / 0) (#92)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:17:55 PM EST
    I see them at OTB with the other investors getting haircuts...they are the brokest mofos of the bunch, but convinced they have a winner in the next race, the last one was a fluke:)

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    why stop there (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:15:19 PM EST
    I think a millennial bond would be great

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    I repeat (none / 0) (#130)
    by Dadler on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:55:24 PM EST
    There are already some 100 year (none / 0) (#146)
    by tigercourse on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 05:51:58 PM EST
    corporate and municipal bonds. I seem to remember one showing up on Antiques roadshow related to the construction of the Erie Canal that was for an even longer period.

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    Japanese long have had (none / 0) (#161)
    by Towanda on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 07:55:37 PM EST
    100-year mortgages in pricey cities.  But then, they're a culture accustomed to thinking long-term, thinking of legacies to generations far in future.

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    I ran into a 400 hundred year old (none / 0) (#166)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 08:29:08 PM EST
    Buddha statue in Korea a few years back among other artifacts that  Americans couldn't fathom could be that old, but no 100 year bonds.

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    Obama administration supporting sadistic torturer (none / 0) (#18)
    by Andreas on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:28:25 PM EST
    The real character of the Obama administration and the Democratic Party becomes more obvious every day.

    Now they are suggesting that Omar Suleiman replaces Mubarak. Suleiman has not only organised torture. The sadistic criminal Suleiman was personally torturing people.

    I do think that something with a lasting effect should be done with and to Suleiman. But that does not involve making him a replacement for Mubarak.


    who should be put in charge (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:29:42 PM EST
    and how should that person be chosen?

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    Reply (none / 0) (#22)
    by Andreas on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:37:04 PM EST
    I have replied to that question in another thread.


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    heh, I see (none / 0) (#23)
    by andgarden on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:38:12 PM EST
    really (none / 0) (#25)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:40:44 PM EST
    next

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    Hey, it sounds good to me (none / 0) (#26)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:41:24 PM EST
    But I'm a dependent of the U.S. military.  I live within and prosper within a Socialist Regime everyday :)

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    Segue: dependent of U.S. military. (5.00 / 2) (#70)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:51:08 PM EST
    Friend of a friend e-mailed.  Her son is a recent West Point graduate.  Will be in charge of a platoon going to Afghanistan.  She says she and her husband bought what he needs but the U.S. military isn't supplying, including better body armor than standard issue.  She is calling for "stuff" for a yard sale, proceeds to help the young enlistees in his platoon.  Really pisses me off.  

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    Hope he has some good Sgts (none / 0) (#119)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:43:37 PM EST
    Her son is a recent West Point graduate.  Will be in charge of a platoon going to Afghanistan
    .

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    Wondering if he had to go through (none / 0) (#123)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:45:03 PM EST
    basic training after West Point.

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    I'd bet money that he (none / 0) (#158)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 07:22:51 PM EST
    did.

    He'll still need the Sgts.

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    Officer's BAsic, OBC, or (none / 0) (#163)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 08:00:07 PM EST
    "the basic course." Did she say which branch?

    doesn't matter, Jim's correct. Tell him that if he thinks he needs to overrule his e-6 or e-7, he needs to decide after a nap. A good four hour nap. Those folks have more time in the chow line than he has in the Army.

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    I was worried about my spouses (none / 0) (#185)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 08:57:33 AM EST
    body armor too when he last went, but he told me to stop worrying.  The military has upgraded its body armor and my husband said that he was happy with it.  I think that Dragon Skin still tests better, but my husband said it was too hard to move around in in his opinion to make it an improvement.

    Everything they sent my husband with was new and of superior quality IMO.  The helmets have all been redone too and obviously the most superior helmet every handed out in military history thusfar.  I understand her concern about body armor, but I'm surprised if she felt he wasn't properly outfitted in other areas.  My husband brought home four giant duffel bags stuffed to brimming with all the latest equipment, long underwear that only weighs a few ounces but works twice as well and is flame resistant, a special military Merrell hiking boot...everything has been redesigned and I thought it was really amazing equipment when compared to anything our soldiers had in the past.

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    Maybe she is being a typical mom. (none / 0) (#188)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 10:15:47 AM EST
    It is her son's first deployment.

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    She will probably send him lots of (5.00 / 1) (#192)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 10:25:24 AM EST
    good stuff to eat too and keep him and all of his guys happy :)

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    I just asked my husband about where (none / 0) (#195)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 10:47:11 AM EST
    the current debate is on Interceptor vs. Dragon Skin, and he said that if Dragon Skin geniunely was a superior armor you would see Spec Ops guys wearing it.  They would use their own funds to buy it if it was superior.  He says you don't see Spec Ops guys wearing it.

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    Call me old-fashioned, (none / 0) (#190)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 10:17:58 AM EST
    but the old 50 percent wool long underwear is great. I still have two bottoms, and if I ever find some in an Army Navy store, I'll stock up with enough to last this natural life. Great as pyjamas, too.

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    I told my husband he needed to part with his (none / 0) (#194)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 10:32:32 AM EST
    He had to many, just piles and piles of stuff as the years march along.  He had some of those and he had some of the older version flame resistant for flying.  I think everyone gets flame resistant now verses how they only used to give it to people they considered high risk for catching on fire :)

    They are on everyone's tail too if they try to leave that really heavy back plate out of their body armor like many used to in the old days.  My husband tried to leave his home thinking he would have a great excuse for not having it and so not having to bodily haul it around.  They were having none of that though, and I had to drive it to him in the middle of the night before they left or he was in big trouble.

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    Argh, The buttkiller. (none / 0) (#196)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 10:49:35 AM EST
    I'd be willing to make an offer on the old old underwear, men's long, type 1 class 1, as well as OD green wool socks.

    No, not kidding.

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    He won't part with the socks (none / 0) (#197)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 11:15:37 AM EST
    even though they look like a 100 miles of bad road.  We are going to clean out his closet next weekend, agreed on that yesterday, and if he has any of the old wool long underwear left you can have them.  He got rid of most them about six months ago Jeff, I didn't know you would want them...sorry

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    On the socks... (none / 0) (#199)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 11:51:45 AM EST
    I still have some from the early 70s. I learned to darn because of how great they are. I'll pay for the longjohns if he has any left, or at least for postage, if they are free!

    Spread the word... I'll take them if ppl want to get rid of them. I'm down to two bottoms and one top... I just checked.

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    I will (none / 0) (#200)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 11:53:23 AM EST
    heh (none / 0) (#28)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 01:42:56 PM EST
    it would be Becks delusional dream come true.  socialists AND mooslims.


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    "The Words that Maketh Murder" (none / 0) (#41)
    by Dadler on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:09:56 PM EST
    Whew, and Fox News got one of their (none / 0) (#43)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:15:54 PM EST
    journalists beat up in Egypt too.  So they are keeping up with real journalists everyone.  They will not be lagging behind :)  Did anyone check the I.D. of who beat them up though?  I mean this is Egypt and playing the media like a violin is a fine art.  Did they get beat up by the Fox News flight crew, or did they maybe pay the under paid MSNBC flight crew to beat them up?  We all have bills :)

    Cynic. (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:23:24 PM EST
    It is a little strange though (5.00 / 2) (#49)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:30:25 PM EST
    Today was a happy day compared to yesterday and the day before.  Everything seemed fairly peachy and then Fox News gets the crap beaten out of it.  Usually when I have had a great day and I'm glowing and happy I have a yearning to beat up Fox News too, but I didn't understand that Egyptians experience that phenomenon as well.  It would seem they have seen a little Glenn Beck and a bit of Hannity and some O'Really too.

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    Though Obama asked (none / 0) (#157)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 07:18:42 PM EST
    for the rhetoric to be turned down.. Guess you didn't get the message.

    ;-)

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    That civil discourse shtick (5.00 / 3) (#162)
    by Towanda on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 07:57:11 PM EST
    is so, y'know, January.

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    Like MT ever indulges in rhetoric (5.00 / 1) (#171)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 09:52:44 PM EST
    that needs to be turned down.

    :-)

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    they probably got (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:25:19 PM EST
    the Anderson Cooper people.  it worked out well for him.

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    I'm always outfoxed by you :) (none / 0) (#50)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:30:52 PM EST
    Fox has lots of correspondents (none / 0) (#174)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 12:36:46 AM EST
    jetting around to hotspots and filing breathless, if usually largely grammatically and logically incoherent, reports. Wouldn't call more than one or two of them journalists, though.

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    Prime Minister Harper (none / 0) (#51)
    by lilburro on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:33:23 PM EST
    speaking French at the press conference right now.  I wasn't aware he spoke French.  I am intrigued and confused as I have no idea what he's talking about right now.  I liked Obama's statement on Egypt more or less, although the report that we are working to get Mubarak out now is the most important development in my mind.

    Makes sense that he speaks French (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:40:00 PM EST
    Since Canada has two official languages.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#80)
    by lilburro on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:58:39 PM EST
    I did not know French was the official language though.  I'm still traumatized by the reign of W.  Educated, inclusive Presidents...wow.

    Speaking of W, he apparently is "through with politics."  Now you tell me.  

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    canada has two (none / 0) (#83)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:03:38 PM EST
    every sign and label is supposed to be printed in both.  and they are.  everywhere except Quebec.  in spite of the law not an english sign in the whole freakin province.

    do not get me started on french canadians.


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    Oh come on (none / 0) (#89)
    by lilburro on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:13:43 PM EST
    be a sport.

    I've only been to Canada once - when I was a kid.  Obligatory Niagara Falls trip.  Canada was definitely cleaner than the US anyway.

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    I love canada. (2.00 / 1) (#95)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:19:39 PM EST
    I just hate french canadians

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    A singer I like a lot (none / 0) (#101)
    by lilburro on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:30:12 PM EST
    Mylene Farmer, is from Quebec.  And a filmmaker I just got into, Guy Maddin, is from Winnipeg.  Canada's been on my brain recently.

    Had I been a teen alcoholic I probably would've made the trip up to Montreal when I was 18.  But would I have remembered it?  Who knows.

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    truth be told (2.00 / 1) (#102)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:33:02 PM EST
    I have friends there.  I was there for almost a year.  but the stereotype obnoxious french canadian has plenty of basis in fact.

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    The only place (none / 0) (#104)
    by CST on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:34:36 PM EST
    in Canada I've been is French Canada.  As I don't speak French, I couldn't tell you much about the people.  That being said, Quebec City is one of the most beautiful places I've ever been, even in -40 weather.  I almost went to college in Montreal, but then I remembered how cold -40 is and ended up in Pittsburgh instead.

    And the skiing is great!  As a kid we would always drive up since the exchange rate made it a lot cheaper.  My sister and I once spent the whole day skiing on "piste ferme" until my mother told us it was french for "closed trail".  They sure don't do English signs.

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    Montreal is an amazing city too (none / 0) (#106)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:35:36 PM EST
    thats where I was and I loved it.

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    I was there for a few days to visit (none / 0) (#121)
    by CST on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:44:08 PM EST
    the campus in the springtime.

    Honestly, I think I would have loved it there.  But I do not know if I would have stuck with engineering.  Sometimes a fun city can be too much fun :)

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    looks like we have a (none / 0) (#138)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 04:46:03 PM EST
    french canadian.  explains a lot.

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    I think (none / 0) (#91)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:17:23 PM EST
    English speaking Canadians hate French Canadians as well.

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    they do (none / 0) (#94)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:19:13 PM EST
    oh yeah.  they do.

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    Yes, since what is called (none / 0) (#145)
    by Towanda on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 05:11:59 PM EST
    the first genocide, committed by the British -- actually, British Americans.  That horrific genocide was against Acadia, the first French settlement on this continent (because the French were here first, well before the Mayflower, etc).

    That's why Jefferson and other Southerners, apparenty ignorant of what northern British Americans had done, were foolish in their miscalculation that counted on Canadians to rise up to join the Americans in 1776.  

    Too many English-speaking Americans remain ignorant fools about French Canadians today, too.  And of course, because the French promoted peaceful coexistence with the First People rather than the British and U.S. continued attacks on that culture, too, many French Canadians are part Native American (in Canada and in this country).  

    So to hate French Canadians, a lovely people, is to continue the racism that has been all too typical of the English-speaking for centuries.  


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    SCOTUS fiction (none / 0) (#52)
    by Makarov on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:36:34 PM EST
    Perhaps it was linked before, but I found this rather amusing:

    http://lawandpolitics.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_lawandpolitics_archive.html#113756175348882886

    Justice SCALIA delivered the opinion of the Court:

    This case presents a question of the scope of Congress's power under the commerce clause. To simplify and clarify our commerce clause analysis, we have consolidated two cases in which petitioners challenge the constitutionality of two federal laws that allegedly exceed Congress's power to regulate commerce - (1) a law banning local possession of marijuana; and (2) a law criminalizing violence against women. Applying our new standard, we find the marijuana law constitutional and the other one, well, not so much.
    ...
    In light of this criticism, the Court today announces a new clear standard to guide lower courts in their application of the commerce clause. This new standard will govern when a law exceeds Congress's power under the commerce clause and when it does not. The new standard is this - a law passed pursuant to the commerce clause is constitutional if Justice Scalia likes the law and unconstitutional if he does not. Similarly, if the law is regulating things that Justice Scalia wants regulated, it is constitutional. If it does not, it is not.

    The whole thing is a good read.

    7 people injured (none / 0) (#60)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:43:51 PM EST
    by falling ice at Cowboy Stadium

    Everyone was aghast that they scheduled Super Bowls in Detroit in the middle of winter, but seems it's Texas weather that's the problem, including having 600 flights into Dallas being canceled today.

    When UPS delivered my (none / 0) (#63)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:45:25 PM EST
    Eric Clapton tickets yesterday, the deliveryman sd., Super Bowl tickets?  Ha.

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    ironic huh (none / 0) (#68)
    by CST on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:48:37 PM EST
    5 inches of snow is enough to bring Dallas to it's knees.  I bet Detroit could handle that much snow with relative ease.

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    Detroit (none / 0) (#72)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:52:34 PM EST
    Like any northern city, could have the elementary school kids handle 5 inches of snow.

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    I thought they had an ice storm, (none / 0) (#98)
    by Anne on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:27:17 PM EST
    which is, as you know, a whole other ball game, but maybe I'm confusing Dallas with any number of cities that got ice.

    We here in MD have dodged - for the most part - all kinds of Mother Nature's bullets - so far, anyway.

    This time last year, we were getting pounded with snow...

    If we can get through February, we might be safe, although we've had some pretty big blizzards in March; my niece was born a week after a big storm in the awful winter of '93 - that was a winter that just wouldn't end: snow, ice, more snow, more ice, sub-zero temps.  Kids were out of school so many days that they ended up having to extend the school day at the front and back ends for weeks to make up the time.  

    That was one awful winter.

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    Oh, boy (none / 0) (#153)
    by Zorba on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 07:09:54 PM EST
    Do we remember that winter.  And my kids hated getting up even earlier, and having to catch the bus at 6:30 AM instead of 7:00 for the make-up time.

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    It was an ice storm earlier in the week (none / 0) (#186)
    by Rojas on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 09:26:35 AM EST
    The snow on Friday was a typical snow event for the metroplex. Sun came out by noon and most of the snow had melted off the main roads by 3pm.

    We used to have snow plows here. I remember cussing the damn things for spoiling our fun when I was a kid. The newscasters have been going on about the millions of dollars a year it would take to maintain the plows. I'm wondering what is the shelf life on a snow plow? And don't these things just attach to the front of the sand trucks that are already being maintained? Twenty years of short term thinking republicans have devastated TxDot.

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    Silly argument. In many northern cities (none / 0) (#198)
    by Towanda on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 11:22:59 AM EST
    we build garbage trucks for double duty.  So they cost a bit more than southern garbage trucks, but much less than two fleets.  We attach snowplows to the trucks when storms are coming, and drivers are trained for both.  So this week, with the storm coming, crews moved fast to get ahead on scheduled garbage pickup, which then was suspended for a few days, and next week all will get back to catch up on garbage pickup.  

    It's a bit more complex than that for the folks in departments of public works, but it's not rocket science.  And it's not new.  We learned to do this in the Great Blizzard of 1948.

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    A candidate to lead Egypt in transition? (none / 0) (#61)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:43:56 PM EST
    [Update 2:53 p.m. in Cairo, 7:53 a.m. ET] Amre Moussa, the Arab League's secretary-general and a veteran Egyptian diplomat, joined protesters in Cairo's Tahrir Square on Friday, state-run Nile TV reported. Time magazine has described him as "perhaps the most adored public servant in the Arab world."
     (CNN news blog.)


    "State run Nile TV reported." Hmmm. (none / 0) (#64)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:46:19 PM EST
    no shortage of (none / 0) (#76)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:54:51 PM EST
    volunteers

    ElBaradei: I'm willing to run for president 'if people want'

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    Berlusconi urges Mubarak hang in (none / 0) (#74)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:53:52 PM EST
    there.  (Al Jazeera.)  Why aren't Italians taking to the streets?  

    THAT was bizarre (none / 0) (#77)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:55:15 PM EST
    did you see it?

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    moreso because (none / 0) (#78)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:55:45 PM EST
    he signed the thing from the eu calling for him to man up.

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    Anyone need a job? (none / 0) (#75)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:54:49 PM EST
    Apparently there's an opening as the Ambassador to Luxembourg, since the old one resigned.

    Here's my favorite part:

    Conditions at the embassy were so bad that a handful of staffers requested transfers to Iraq and Afghanistan, the report said, and other staff still working there were considering ways to move elsewhere. In some cases, the inspector general "knows for certain that these early departures are because of the ambassador's management style."

    Stroum created "a climate of acute stress" that was "especially evident among of?cers and local staff who have been here more than 3 or 4 months," inspectors found. In the report, they suggested that medical professionals be sent to the embassy "to evaluate morale and stress levels of staff" and assess the mental health of people who worked for Stroum.



    Acute stress in Luxembourg? (none / 0) (#165)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 08:07:16 PM EST
    I never really believed Luxembourg actually existed. I thought it was a joke, like Belgium. People who think they go to belgium are actually brain programmed under Euro Disney in France. I kid you not, "the Belgium Conspiracy."

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    Geez (none / 0) (#176)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 12:44:11 AM EST
    Luxembourg has always been insignificant, but do you have any idea of Belgium's place in European history?  You might want to look it up.

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    I'd bet real money that Jeff knows (none / 0) (#177)
    by caseyOR on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 01:02:14 AM EST
    quite a bit about Belgium's place in European history.

    I believe the technical term for his comment is "snark."

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    Don't worry Captain Casey, (none / 0) (#180)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 07:11:11 AM EST
    Some folks can't follow links, because they are part of the Europe conspiracy. Gryfalcon probably buys in to the whole 'england' thing, too...Nay nay, I say.

    How are things out in Cascadia? any Tree Octopus sitings lately, or is it too deep in winter?

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    Police State Madness... (none / 0) (#79)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 02:57:49 PM EST
    from Brazil...guy shares his Wifi with two neighbors and gets charged with "providing an internet service without authorization"...facing 2-4 cage time and fines.

    Sounds like Brazil wants to give us a run for our money with insane law and ludicrous punishments...the joys of "modernization".

    But but but. Isn't Brazil's new Pres. (none / 0) (#82)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:03:10 PM EST
    female and a former guerilla fighter?  How could this happen?  Hmmmm.  See Cuba.

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    A precursor (none / 0) (#86)
    by CoralGables on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:11:14 PM EST
    to President Palin or Bachman or Angle

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    Kafka once said.... (none / 0) (#122)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:44:23 PM EST
    "Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy."

    Or as Pete Townsend put it.

    "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."


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    oozing desperation (none / 0) (#84)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:08:48 PM EST
    Did they reference CJ Roberts muffing the (none / 0) (#87)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:11:27 PM EST
    Presidential Oath of Office?

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    Good grief. (none / 0) (#147)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 06:18:43 PM EST
    Even if it was misquoted and I don't know if it was or was not, what's the big deal? Obama probably didn't even write the speech himself. If they want to go after somebody, go after his speech writer. This is the kind of stuff that makes conservatives look loony.

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    Obama says (none / 0) (#93)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:17:57 PM EST
    americans are praying for violence in egypt to end
    didnt mention that we are PAYING for it to continue

    How so? (none / 0) (#103)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:34:17 PM EST
    three million + per day (none / 0) (#107)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:36:14 PM EST
    we give them.  day by day by day.

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    But our $$ are to the Egyptian (5.00 / 1) (#108)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:37:38 PM EST
    military, which does not seem to be fostering violence against the protesters.

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    still (none / 0) (#111)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:39:16 PM EST
    for that price tag we should get more than neutral.


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    Tunisian hackers (none / 0) (#100)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:29:42 PM EST
    launch cyber attacks in support of egyptian demonstrators

    hmmm (none / 0) (#126)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:50:21 PM EST
    us now calling for an immediate transition to democracy

    ok.  good first step.

    words of wisdom from AJ (none / 0) (#131)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 03:58:50 PM EST
    "the real problem for the US is the idea of dealing with egypt as an equal and not having a yes man in egypt"

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    Links (none / 0) (#132)
    by lilburro on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 04:00:48 PM EST
    4 Reasons Why Egypt's Revolution Is Not Islamic

    5 Reasons the Muslim Brotherhood Won't Turn On Israel

    There's a special on Egypt on the Discovery Channel every three or four days. Ancient Egypt is one of the few non-European societies we all seem to know about; in fact we often treat it as part of Western history. Countless tourists visit Egypt every year. The Egyptian economy is deeply dependent on tourism of the Pharaonic and Islamic varieties, and cannot long survive alienated from the world.  

    Aggressive national policy will accomplish nothing for Egypt and the many Egyptians whose jobs depend on the tourist sector. That's worth keeping in mind when people ask if a new Egypt will be a pro-Hamas Egypt.

    Also

    Any post-Mubarak regime will have to incorporate not only the military's interests, but reward the military (assuming the revolution succeeds, it'll only succeed with military support). The same Egyptian military that gets $1.3 billion from the United States in aid every year doesn't want to jeopardize that aid--for which reason it will look very suspiciously on any political agenda that wants to antagonize Israel and threaten a major source of its funding.

    Lots of interesting stuff.

    Very interesting. Note: the author (none / 0) (#135)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 04:18:55 PM EST
    is an iman, as well as a Ph.D. candidate.

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    movie news (none / 0) (#139)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 04:51:12 PM EST
    tangentially related to the middle east:

    I would think that just about any actor would be quick to answer the call to work if the person on the was Werner Herzog. Looks like Naomi Watts is the latest to get the call, and the film Mr. Herzog reportedly has in mind is no small thing. It is called Queen of the Desert, and Naomi Watts would play Gertrude Bell in a film that could easily become a companion piece to Lawrence of Arabia.

    Some at the time surmised that the desert epic would be the Gertrude Bell story, and it looks like that's the case. She's a great subject, too: a writer, traveler, political officer, administrator, and archaeologist who explored, mapped, and became highly influential to British imperial policy-making in the middle east. She was a contemporary and colleague of T.E Lawrence, the subject of Lawrence of Arabia, and was part of the imperial colonialist effort that, for better or worse, established what became the modern states of Jordan and Iraq.

    Werner Herzog isn't exactly your typical establishment-supporting mythmaker, so I'm very curious to see what he's doing here.



    "What Obama is Learning From (none / 0) (#159)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 04, 2011 at 07:25:48 PM EST
    Reagan's Example":   NPR's "All THings Considered"

    Consensus building? (none / 0) (#178)
    by lilburro on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:22:00 AM EST
    When on earth could this have possibly come into play before * chokes on snark*?

    What a novel idea that noone's said!!

    Ciao ciao FDR, baci...

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    I also love the part about the 'change' candidate (none / 0) (#179)
    by ruffian on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:30:47 AM EST
    saying Reagan 'permanently' changed our ideas about taxes. Well, alrighty then. No use trying to change that framework I guess.

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    I listened to this piece yesterday. (none / 0) (#187)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 10:12:57 AM EST
    Surprised Pres. Obama is still so immersed in the Reagan mythology.  And that he slammed Bill Clinton re dealing with opposing party having majority in Congress.  

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    The other day on NPR's (5.00 / 1) (#191)
    by brodie on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 10:25:11 AM EST
    Morning Edition (scroll down) they actually ran a decent-enough corrective to some of the Reagan myth-making, with David Stockman and Alan Simpson reminding that he raised taxes 11 times to avoid even larger massive deficits.

    Historian Doug Brinkley confirms, but has a very weak explanation -- more myth making actually -- for why Reagan has gotten such a glossy air-brushed image in the popular imagination.  Brinkley says it was due to Reagan's glowing persona.  Stockman is more on the mark though by citing the myth-making industry that has produced propaganda in Reagan's favor since his presidency.

    One other factor neither noted:  the MSM's cushy coverage of his presidency, almost acting as the official communications branch of the WH in the 1980s.

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    I'm jonesing for a Saturday Morning (none / 0) (#193)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 10:32:07 AM EST
    Open Thread. I've found some excellent conspiracy info you need to know.