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Hosni Mubarak has still not stepped down, but his son, Gamal Mubarak, has resigned his leadership position in Egypt's ruling party.

We're expecting another snowstorm.

What's on your agenda this weekend? This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Attention, Pirates and pirate lovers: (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by caseyOR on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 01:56:36 PM EST
    Jeff, kdog, I mean you (and your respective amores), and any and all who love the life on the sea,  2011 Portland Pirate Festival will rule the Columbia on Labor Day Weekend.

    Too bad we won't have our ship by then. 'Twould be fantastic to sail her up the Columbia, colors flying. Maybe next year.

    was going to say, (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Makarov on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:20:50 PM EST
    no one loves the Pittsburgh Pirates any more.

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    Who (none / 0) (#4)
    by CoralGables on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 01:58:40 PM EST
    is working on flag design?

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    That position remains unfilled. (none / 0) (#6)
    by caseyOR on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:07:36 PM EST
    Are you a flag designer by any chance? And if not, would you like to be a flag designer?

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    I am not (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by CoralGables on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:25:46 PM EST
    but if I was, would probably pirate this one as my initial design and substitute a little here and there as needed to reach the captain's approval.

    Conch Republic Flag

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    Can we add a skull? (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:49:02 PM EST
    and a puppy?

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    By chance (none / 0) (#19)
    by CoralGables on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:01:27 PM EST
    Perhaps swap the flag in
    this pups mouth
    for the new pirate version thereby having a flag within the flag; put the pup and flag picture in place of the conch shell; superimpose a skull tattoo on the pups ear; and change Conch Republic to the new ships name.

    I'd have to leave the motto at the bottom of the original. It's just too good to change.

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    The design w/puppy sounds promising. The (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by caseyOR on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:41:19 PM EST
    motto at the bottom is a keeper. As you say, it is too good to change. It could serve as a way to weed out potential pirate candidates.

    No name for the pirate ship until we actually have a pirate ship.

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    How about we call it (none / 0) (#41)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:43:14 PM EST
    "The Pirate Ship?"

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    Simple, clear, to the point (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by caseyOR on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:56:23 PM EST
    and easy to spell. I like it. The Pirate Ship it is.

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    I like it! But I'm not (none / 0) (#20)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:07:51 PM EST
    the captain, and I don't think we vote on the flag. Just the captain, and s/he decides on the flag.

    Where's Kieth Richards with the code when you need him?

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    Kind of redundant. And there may (none / 0) (#58)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:34:42 PM EST
    be some kind of U.S. law about a pirate ship displaying a U.S. flag!

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    LOL (none / 0) (#23)
    by sj on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:11:55 PM EST
    Quite creative. Although I can't (none / 0) (#55)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:31:48 PM EST
    say I enjoyed eating conch.  Pretty tough.

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    Oh, you need to try (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by KeysDan on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:42:30 PM EST
    Conch fritters.

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    Food of the gods, and pirates. (none / 0) (#63)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:45:27 PM EST
    With two cafe cubanos, a full day of pirating.

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    I am campaigning for this year's (none / 0) (#66)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:53:37 PM EST
    family Christmas meet-up to be in Key West.  Will sample conch fritters en route.  Got to better than what I had last time--Marathon Key I think.  Conch sandwich?  Terrible.

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    oculus, just go for floridita daiquiris at (none / 0) (#67)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:01:28 PM EST
    Sloppy Joe's. Open 24/7. There's a little hole in the wall Cuban place on Stock Island that has eggs, ham, and cafe cubano for breakfast.

    Impress your family with one (ONE) trip to El Cacique...

    Geez, why is it I can tell you the best bars by price in any town in the Caribbean? Maybe I ought not answer that...

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    Never heard of Stock Island. Will explore. (none / 0) (#68)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:05:26 PM EST
    Thanks for the tips.  Family consensus is hard to come by so don't know yet where we'll congregate.

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    Stock Island (none / 0) (#73)
    by CoralGables on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:16:23 PM EST
    was I believe the old navy base and the Key West Greyhound Track. Doubt there is much left to explore there now.

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    Stock Island, just over Cow Key Channel (none / 0) (#96)
    by KeysDan on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 09:36:14 AM EST
    one island north of Key West, has been undergoing a lot of change.  Of course, much came to a halt in recent times.  The Track is long gone. But there is still 'The Rusty Anchor', a good place to go for Conch fritters, the 'Hog Fish Grill' on a working water front, and Chico's among fun spots.

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    And (none / 0) (#76)
    by CoralGables on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:30:20 PM EST
    a beer at Captain Tony's Saloon, which I believe was the Original Sloppy Joes

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    Important Detail (5.00 / 2) (#77)
    by CoralGables on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:35:55 PM EST
    The house drink at Capt Tony's is Pirates Punch.

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    {raises hand} (none / 0) (#18)
    by nycstray on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:54:17 PM EST
    I can handle flag design :)

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    Design away, please. (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by caseyOR on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:42:50 PM EST
    Newly developed specs call for a puppy and a skull.

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    I bet she can also grow fresh (none / 0) (#56)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:32:28 PM EST
    veggies on board.  No dried cod, please.

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    Arrrgh. (none / 0) (#14)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:41:35 PM EST
    Labor Day weekend I'll be in Cartagena trying to get us some letters of Marque and Reprisal... and also visiting other parts of Gran Colombia, picking up the eight year old future Pirate King for a summer of pillaging.

    But we'll plan on next year. 2012 seems auspicious.

    I think Lafitte sailed with letters of marque from the kingdom of Cartagena. Probably still available for the right price!

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    Totally excusable absence, Jeff. (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by caseyOR on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:47:10 PM EST
    We'll need the letters of Marque and Reprisal before we set sail. And it goes without saying that time with the pirate offspring takes precedence over any other pirate duties.

    Does your son ever come to the States? Any chance you could bring him along to Pirate Festival 2012? He'll be nine next year. Old enough for cabin boy training.

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    excellent. (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:49:41 PM EST
    This summer he's going to the Jedi Academy at NASA. Cabin Boy training seems a perfect progression! I'll have him for two months to corrupt-- I mean, show new things-- starting in June!

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    I need these two months, (none / 0) (#57)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:34:40 PM EST
    his mother has been quite remiss in teaching how to pillage.

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    A glimmer of hope for my district (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by ruffian on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:36:22 PM EST
    Via Digby and Crroks and Liars, Nicholas Ruiz III, candidate for congress. He ran as a green last time. Says health care should be just like the police and fire departments.

    Good luck to him- he may be the one candidate I donate to this year.

    So, what were his second-half (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:47:46 PM EST
    stats? Enquiring minds want to know...

    you ask (none / 0) (#21)
    by CoralGables on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:08:45 PM EST
    We deliver...

    6 points - 4 fouls - 0 rebounds

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    Maybe she had money on the game... (5.00 / 0) (#24)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:18:47 PM EST
    not that there's any attempt to influence players...

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    Did do he do better in the first half? (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:39:34 PM EST
    Jeff (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by CoralGables on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:23:33 PM EST
    I'm looking for a little Green Beret insight if you have any knowledge.

    My oldest brother was a member around 1970-1971. Wasn't old enough to remember all the details and years have fogged even more memory. Believe he was in basic at Ft Campbell?, went on in an order I don't recall to Benning, Bragg, Sam Houston (medic training) and ultimately back to Bragg. Do those places sound like they fit training back then?

    100 percent. (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:31:45 PM EST
    Even the order sounds correct. During Vietnam, Campbell was a basic training base, but also had a jump school, can't remember when it shut down, possibly before 71... but he probably then went to Ft. Sam to 91B combat medic school first, then Benning for jump school, then Bragg (actually Camp Mackall, part of the reservation) for Phase I, then Ft. Sam again for Dogpatch/Goat school-- part of the final exam was to stake out dogs and goats, hit them with airburst mortar rounds, and send the SF medics out to triage and save as many as possible. The animals only had to go through it once-- if they survived, they were retired, not euthanized.

    Then Back to Bragg, Smokebomb hill most likely, with a lot of time at Mackall.

    after basic, 91b, and airborne school, about 56 weeks for medics.

    Does this help?

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    Might sound crazy, but you just brought back (none / 0) (#27)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:33:39 PM EST
    some very fond and joyful memories.

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    ;-) be sure to ask about FayetNam's (none / 0) (#30)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:50:33 PM EST
    Hay Street from that time. Prostitutes from Boston to Miami would take trains to Fayetville on Payday Weekend.

    And ask if he remembers Hay Street?

    Fayetville got rid of it completely, changed the name and everything. Absolutely notorious.

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    Thanks (none / 0) (#75)
    by CoralGables on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:21:31 PM EST
    for all the assistance. I jotted notes for future reference.

    The only stories I remember hearing about were jump school and jumping out of helicopters into rivers. Both of which sounded really exciting to me at the time.

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    that's called (none / 0) (#78)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:43:25 PM EST
    'helocasting'

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    CG, this just covers being a 'basic' (none / 0) (#28)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:41:37 PM EST
    18 series or SF series... to serve on an 'A' team, you were expected also to be crosstrained, or MOS qualified, in another area, either light weapons, heavy weapons, engineer, maybe intel (can't recall, I wasn't too intelligent, lol) all of those with an SF prefix, not just your advanced individual training, and be proficient in two, preferably three or more languages.

    Additionally, desired was scuba and HALO training.

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    Everything mentioned (none / 0) (#29)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:44:35 PM EST
    covered enlisted, not officers. Many SF NCOs think officers are only needed to sign requisition forms and stand in front of a formation. And they are not terribly wrong. At that time, every SF soldier had the ability to lead a company of indigenous forces, sometimes more.

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    Slight correction... (none / 0) (#34)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:07:03 PM EST
    MIKE force A team members required 3 languages. there were plenty of A teams where each member didn't speak three. As the memories come back, I'll keep adding. May bore the pants off of some folks, but hey, I got time and electrons.

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    Oh, CoralGables, one little correction: (none / 0) (#50)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:19:06 PM EST
    it's one that doesn't bother me, but to some, especially a brother, it might. He's not didn't go through Green Beret training, and he's not Green Beret qualified.

    He passed Special Forces training, and he is Special Forces qualified. Period. He wears a Green Beret to signify he's Special Forces.

    Like I said, to me, no big deal, but you talking to a brother, it might actually make a difference. People get mighty caught up in this.

    I am special forces qualified, I flew UH 1's and LOACHes, but I AM a Ranger. I'm an old, fat Ranger on detached duty. Once a Ranger, always a Ranger. Same with Special Forces. When I die, I'll be a dead Ranger.

    It's the same way that Jeralyn and Armando are lawyers, except, in my opinion better ;-).  A joke, Jeralyn and Armando...don't kick me off the site, please.

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    We are?! (none / 0) (#1)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 12:32:39 PM EST
    I thought it just some bands of snow coming through over the next few days, but no major accumulations.  Oh well--as long as we don't get another round of sub-zero temps, I'll survive.  

    It's nice being able to close my cupboards (and not smacking my knees on them) and not having to listen to all the faucets constantly dripping...

    it's snowing hard (none / 0) (#8)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:20:15 PM EST
    in my neighborhood right now. I'm not going out so I don't know if its cold or not.

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    Oddly enough, not (none / 0) (#22)
    by sj on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:11:45 PM EST
    necessarily.  Depends on your expectations.  It could be warm enough that the snow is a "wet" snow (colder temps produce "dry" snow -- not much, if any, slush).  A wet snow with no wind doesn't feel too uncomfortable, but the snow is really heavy.  Wet snowstorms often come in the spring or fall, and can be really destructive if the trees are in leaf at all.

    That said, if one thinks 60 degrees is cold, like say someone who lives in lovely Hawaii, then even a wet snow would be cold.

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    Got some pressure washing in before the rainstorm (none / 0) (#5)
    by ruffian on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:04:35 PM EST
    Only question is how long the driveway will remain only half clean. I don't always feel so inspired and I'm not as obsessive about such things as I used to be. Either the wisdom or exhaustion of age, not sure which.

    According to Al Jazeera, (none / 0) (#7)
    by Makarov on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:20:10 PM EST
    Egypt state news agency subsequently retracted the story about Mubarak resigning as head of the NDP.

    Al Jazeera (none / 0) (#32)
    by lilburro on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:55:01 PM EST
    8:07pm Hosni Mubarak must stay in power for the time being, says Frank Wisner, Barack Obama's special envoy for Egypt.

    "We need to get a national consensus around the pre-conditions for the next step forward. The president must stay in office to steer those changes."

    link

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    Mubarak, Suleiman are TBTF (none / 0) (#37)
    by Politalkix on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:32:19 PM EST
    Mubarak, Suleiman are too big to fail. Meet our "foreign policy Tim Geithner", Madam Secretary, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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    According to the NYT (none / 0) (#45)
    by lilburro on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:55:31 PM EST
    Wisner is not expressing the official line.  NYT.

    A senior administration official quickly sought to distance the White House from Mr. Wisner's comments. American officials have said that they are seeking privately to nudge Mr. Mubarak out of his executive role ahead of September elections, though they have also said that they do not view his departure as an essential first step toward a transition to a new democratic system in the country.

    Mr. Wisner, the official said, had not been supplied with talking points for his remarks to the Munich conference.

    "We're not coming out and making a pronouncement about Murbarak's future," this official said. "Frank Wisner was speaking for himself, he was not speaking for the United States government."

    That this is his personal opinion doesn't make me happy though either...he is the envoy after all.  An ominous sign.

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    That's a pretty amusing retraction, given (none / 0) (#59)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:37:39 PM EST
    Wisner's position and where he was speaking.  Hillary Clinton, per CNN on my Blackberry, told the Munich conference Suleimann needs to stay in place to assure and orderly transition.  

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    apparently Wisner is no longer the envoy? (none / 0) (#69)
    by lilburro on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:10:20 PM EST
    I don't know...not like that really matters.  The "talking points" comment is funny.  I think the protests would end if Mubarak goes.  But this could easily become about Suleiman too IMO.

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    Given Suleiman's recent positions (none / 0) (#70)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:12:28 PM EST
    in the Egyptian power structure and his association with persons "rendered" by the U.S. (not sure how much the protestors know or care about this), there has to be a better caretaker.

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    Suleiman's even more recent actions (none / 0) (#85)
    by Politalkix on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 09:21:57 PM EST
    Oh , I know. Of course the protestors (none / 0) (#91)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 11:17:13 PM EST
    know what happens to people within their country who dissent and suddenly are disappeared.  Just don't know if they are aware of Egypt/Sulieman helping U.S. re rendition of non-Egyptians.

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    Last night I mentioned the (none / 0) (#15)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 02:46:50 PM EST
    Fake Belgium Conspiracy, but it gets worse: Walt Disney invented the English! Oh, the humanity!

    Raining and raw out and the (none / 0) (#31)
    by Anne on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:54:19 PM EST
    warming air is making fog as it hits the snow still on the ground...just a gray, gray day.

    So...making a butternut squash soup, brightened with some chipotle, and topped with a dollop of chipotle cream (diced chipotle in adobo, with some sour cream).  First time making this recipe, so we'll see.

    And since it's Chinese New Year, tomorrow I'm going to make some dumplings and some spicy beef in lettuce cups.

    Also going to make some meatballs tomorrow to eat later in the week...something about this weather makes me want to cook... love making things I've never made before, so hoping for some winners!  

    Thank goodness I have a family that is game to try anything.


    Sounds delicious! (none / 0) (#33)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 03:58:25 PM EST
    I'll bring the beer if you like cheap American... and I can't eat beef, so don't worry about stretching it!

    Driving to Huntsville, AL yesterday, crossing Monte Sano, the clouds were low enough to block vision. All in all, beautiful in its own gray way. I'll be ready for some sun, even cold sun, soon!

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    Anybody here speak (none / 0) (#35)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:22:20 PM EST
    I know a verse of "Cwm Rhondda" (5.00 / 2) (#47)
    by Towanda on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:57:21 PM EST
    in Welsh, having sung in a Welsh American choir and having lived near a hilly site where Welsh Americans gather as they have for more than 100 years for gymfanu ganu aka hymnsings.  If ever you're near one, especially outdoors like the ones I attended, don't miss the opportunity.

    "Cwm Rhondda" also is known as a Welsh national anthem, which you may know as "God of Grace, God of Glory" and/or "Guide Us, O Thou Great Redeemer" (or in the old hymnbooks, "Thou Great Jehovah"). For fans of wonderful old fiims, that's what the miners sing on the way home from the hills in "How Green Was My Valley" -- and millions around the world heard it as the closing hymn at the funeral of Diana, who was, of course, the Princess of Wales.

    Anyway, along the way, I picked up a few words of the lovely, musical language and tried to struggle through "Men of Harlech." But after a few lines of 'way too many l's and w's . . . I looked up the "burning words":  

    Men of Harlech, stop your dreaming
    Can't you see their spearpoints gleaming
    See their warrior pennants streaming
    To this battle field

    Men of Harlech stand ye steady
    It can not be ever said ye
    For the battle were not ready
    Welshmen never yield

    From the hills rebounding
    Let this war cry sounding
    Summon all at Cambria's call
    The mighty foe surrounding

    Men of Harlech on to glory
    This will every be your story
    Keep these burning words before ye
    Welshmen will not yield

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    I heard Bryn Terfel sing, in Welsh, (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:43:56 PM EST
    "All Through the Night."  At a recital at Disney Hall.  So lovely.  The "r"s rolled off his tongue.

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    I think singing in Welsh is... (none / 0) (#49)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:08:55 PM EST
    I don't know, a gift from some supreme beings. Some songs, especially songs of praise, sound so beautiful in Welsh. Well, also, songs of 'spearpoints gleaming...' what a wonderful language to sing in. Some of the Southern African languages, with their different harmonies and sycopations, move me like Welsh singing does.

    I have to be careful, I'm blog-clogging today.

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    I so agree (5.00 / 0) (#51)
    by Towanda on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:22:54 PM EST
    re real Southern African American gospel music, so moving -- and such a great example of a culture carrying its music down through generations despite horrific attempts to eradicate every vestige.  That I learned in the '60s, having heard great Southern African American gospel music and then hearing the extraordinary Missa Luba.  Hear the origins of what we call "call and response" in Southern gospel?

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    Subime. (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:28:59 PM EST
    Thanks, Towanda, I now have a new area of music to explore!

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    I have old (5.00 / 2) (#71)
    by BackFromOhio on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:13:21 PM EST
    record with Missa Luba!

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    I have a sister who lives (5.00 / 2) (#52)
    by observed on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:25:32 PM EST
    in Wales; she speaks Welsh--actually all 6 Celti c languages,plus Catalan, Spanish  and French; she and her husband teach Welsh,he to adults, she to children; her three children all speak Welsh as a first language. I sing a few Welsh songs. This sister is the most normal sibling:)

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    I'm... envious wpuldn't be correct.. (none / 0) (#54)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:30:32 PM EST
    awestruck would.

    I'm Awestruck.

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    The French politician (none / 0) (#81)
    by Harry Saxon on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 07:20:53 PM EST
    Clemenceau, once told that a certain diplomat spoke a dozen languages, asked:  "Does he say anything worth remembering in any of them?"

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    I was good at learning (none / 0) (#83)
    by observed on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 08:00:03 PM EST
    other languages, but I never became fluent in any ;however, I sing songs and arias in Italian, French, German and Russian.

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    too much to explain (none / 0) (#36)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:26:19 PM EST
    I feel like sharing more... (none / 0) (#38)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:40:55 PM EST
    here's Tipitina by Dr John...

    I must admit I'm partial to Dr John, (none / 0) (#44)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 04:52:01 PM EST
    his voice, his accent, and especially his girth, but Tipitina's originally a Professor Longhair song. Credit where credit is due.

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    I, too, am partial to Dr. John. (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by caseyOR on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:08:23 PM EST
    Love the way he works the piano.

    I've only been to NOLA once (sadly), back in the mid-'70s, but it was one of the best months I've ever had. I was there with a couple of friends. We stayed in a little apartment in the French Quarter. Ate red beans and rice at a little place called Buster's. A big plate of beans and rice w/french bread for a buck fifty.

    And the music. I was in a state of almost constant swoon from the music.

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    Am going to a Super Bowl party (none / 0) (#64)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:46:45 PM EST
    tomorrow.  What fashion advice for a non-football fan who will cheer for Charles Woodson?

    Next stop tomorrow is "Superior Donuts," a play which got fab reviews in NY.  Local production.

    Back to the Super Bowl. NPR tells me (none / 0) (#65)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 05:47:27 PM EST
    there will be a memorial to Ronald Reagan.  Do I have to watch that?

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    Nah. You only have to watch the ads. (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by Towanda on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 07:13:15 PM EST
    The rest is just filler for . . . the ads.

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    Green. Gold. (none / 0) (#79)
    by Towanda on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 07:12:30 PM EST
    And cheese on your head, it seems.

    We also witnessed cheese cowboy hats and cheese bras.  I recommend neither.

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    LAT reports the City of Escondido, (none / 0) (#72)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:14:58 PM EST
    in Southern CA, has ICE agents in the Escondido Police Department.  City is 50% Latino.  People previously deported or with criminal convictions--goodbye.  LAT

    Close friend, who is second generation Mexican, lives in Escondido.  Must inquire.  

    Editorial cartoons from Arab newspapers: (none / 0) (#74)
    by oculus on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 06:20:45 PM EST
    LAT

    I especially like #3.

    An enconium for Rachel Maddow (none / 0) (#82)
    by Harry Saxon on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 07:23:47 PM EST
    from Stanley Crouch, via the NY Daily News:

    The Koch brothers and Rupert Murdoch are exactly what has been repeatedly proven about them: A ruthless and small gang of billionaires willing to distort fact in the interest of the extremely wealthy and at the expense of an accurate assessment of what is actually going on in our duped democracy. You don't have to shut up if you can put up enough money or can create a propaganda fount that never stops troubling the waters with its untruths.

    Regarding her commitment to homosexuals being treated like everyone else, Maddow went the way of human identification. She repeatedly found members of our armed forces who had done exemplary duty under danger and had won the respect of those who had lived through the horror of war with them. Those who thought that homosexual soldiers would crack under pressure were summarily silenced.

    Anyone who makes human reality more obvious to us all has done the nation a great service.

    Maddow is also very different from those liberals whose hearts are sickening sugar pills hidden beneath bitter surfaces.

    She has never attempted to dismiss the pressure on the brave men and women who fight our wars. She has not tied a huge rock of liberal cliches around her neck and tried to float across the water.

    Her lengthy features about mass murderers and assassins have been distinguished by the restraint that makes her depth of feeling so much more powerful because we come to know what these people actually did - to their victims and to the victims' families and friends.

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    Stanley Crouch (none / 0) (#84)
    by shoephone on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 08:39:12 PM EST
    is a pig. A racist and an all-around ass. I wouldn't give credence to anything that comes out of his mouth or poison pen.

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    I used to read his stuff in the Village Voice (none / 0) (#86)
    by Harry Saxon on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 09:49:53 PM EST
    and he never struck me as such.

    In 2005, he was selected as one of the inaugural fellows by the Fletcher Foundation, which awards annual fellowships to people working on issues of race and civil rights. The fellowship program is directed by Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. of Harvard University.


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    During his tenure at Jazz Times Magazine (none / 0) (#89)
    by shoephone on Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 10:46:25 PM EST
    readers were continually barraged with his tirades against white players, critics, and audiences. (I won't even go into his anti-Jewish rants.) And many will not forget how he defiled the role of music critic the night he seated himself at the front table of Dave Douglas's gig, and proceeded to heckle the trumpeter throughout his entire set. IMO, he's a very angry guy with a bone to pick.

    YMMV, Harry. But if I was Rachel Maddow, I wouldn't want to count Crouch as one of my supporters.

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    Um, if Rachel Maddow (none / 0) (#92)
    by Harry Saxon on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 01:57:14 AM EST
    were a jazz player, you might have a point, but she isn't.

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    By the same metric, (5.00 / 2) (#93)
    by jeffinalabama on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 05:09:48 AM EST
    the fact that Rachel Maddow supports GLBT rights doesn't make her either a liberal or a particularly erudite commentator. She has as much, if not more, pretense as anyone with a daily or nightly news show.

    I'd say more, because she falls into the "I know more and/or better than you" mode quickly and easily.

    As my ex used to say, "I'm sorry for you." Rachel Maddow is simply another bloviatior who thinks it's cute or ratings-worthy to be the person in class with, in this case, her hand up, who gets disappointed when someone else answers.

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    Jeffinalabama (none / 0) (#94)
    by Harry Saxon on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:34:16 AM EST
    "You poor thing."

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    Jeff (none / 0) (#97)
    by jbindc on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 10:25:34 AM EST
    Harry is the president of the Maddow fan club.  It hurts him when you point out facts about her that don't show her as the bestest person in news evah.

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    Actually, (none / 0) (#104)
    by Harry Saxon on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 08:49:33 AM EST
    there are substantial criticisms to be made about Maddow,as she isn't perfect,  it just amuses me when people can't seem to think of any when her name comes up, as in this thread.

    Oh, and snark isn't criticism, children, just in case someone gets the two confused.

    ;-)

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    So, you're saying that Crouch (5.00 / 1) (#95)
    by Anne on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 09:22:52 AM EST
    compartmentalizes his bias, then, confining the ugliness just to the music-related?  And does so well enough to win awards, which, as we all know, is always the metric by which we can take the true measure of someone, right?  I mean, look at our Nobel Peace Prize-winning, NOW- and Planned Parenthood-vetted president...sweetie.

    And since Maddow isn't in the music/jazz world, all that other stuff he harbors just, what, vanishes?  

    Look at the language he uses in that excerpt, if you would...you don't even have to look that carefully to see what's there:

    Maddow is also very different from those liberals whose hearts are sickening sugar pills hidden beneath bitter surfaces.

    She has never attempted to dismiss the pressure on the brave men and women who fight our wars. She has not tied a huge rock of liberal cliches around her neck and tried to float across the water.

    Looks like Stanley pretty much hates the liberals - I'd venture that he might be the bitter one - but is thrilled that he can cull Maddow out of the sickening herd to praise her.

    Yeah, he sure sounds like a swell guy, damning with faint praise, and revealing his own anger...

    Whatever positives Maddow has going for her, I'm with shoephone - I wouldn't be all that proud to call this guy one of my supporters.

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    Definitely Crouch (5.00 / 0) (#99)
    by brodie on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 11:16:42 AM EST
    has at best very mixed feelings about liberals or liberal sentiments, as he expresses himself in some typical-for-Crouch illiberal, angry and violent ways.  

    This guy has long been one head-scratching piece of confusing and confrontational work, but somehow he gets embraced often enough by softie libs like HL Gates and Ken Burns (Crouch the intellectual commenting on Burns' long-winded PBS doc The Civil War) and gets published frequently on a variety of topics, almost becoming the AA version of Christopher Hitchens.  Well, they at least have mean-spiritedness in common.

    And if vy dim memory serves -- don't quote me on this -- didn't Crouch back Clarence Thomas for the Court, or at least weigh in to denigrate the allegations of Anita Hill?

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    Crouch (5.00 / 0) (#100)
    by Towanda on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 02:05:49 PM EST
    has said several things about the Hill-Thomas hearings that I wish I could find now, but this is just one:

    I must say that I never could understand how Anita Hill was the victim. She says Clarence Thomas said all these things to her. She told him she didn't like it, and she acknowledges that he stopped. Then he promoted her, took her with him to another agency, wrote letters of recommendation for her, and she went on to teach in college. So in fact, she won the war.

    And many of his comments on Bill Clinton amid the impeachment were typical of Crouch's obsession with sex.  Btw, he really doesn't seem to understand, or perhaps care about, the difference between sex and gender, among his many problems.

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    Ken Burns proved himself to be a joke (5.00 / 0) (#102)
    by shoephone on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 04:00:09 PM EST
    His "Ken Burns' Jazz" series was thoroughly and justifiably reviled by musicians and critics who actually know a thing or two about the history of the music. When asked why he resorted to letting Marsalis and Crouch act as the lead consultants, Burns admitted it was because he himself knew absolutely NOTHING about the music. I won't bore you all (and Harry, in particular) with everything that was wrong with that series, but suffice it to say, Marsalis thinks he is the all-knowing Oz of jazz (which he ain't) and his opinion that nothing good in jazz happened after 1960, and that white players should only -- if ever -- be mentioned as an afterthought, ruined the thing to the point where it had little credibility. Crouch, a guy who claims to have been a jazz drummer (though no one has ever heard him play) reveres Marsalis as the second coming of Jesus.

    I don't know one jazz musician who thinks Burns' series was anything but a failure. Not one.

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    You still have yet (none / 0) (#103)
    by Harry Saxon on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 07:13:52 PM EST
    to level a justifiable criticism of Crouch's praise for Maddow, except for this bit of snark:

    Politically, he is no friend to liberals, and his momentary defense of Rachel Maddow means virtually nothing -- only that she is serving his purposes, not the other way around.

    But thanks for playing.

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    Putting words in my mouth (none / 0) (#98)
    by Harry Saxon on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 10:28:45 AM EST

    And does so well enough to win awards, which, as we all know, is always the metric by which we can take the true measure of someone, right?  I mean, look at our Nobel Peace Prize-winning, NOW- and Planned Parenthood-vetted president...sweetie

    Uh, read what he wrote about Maddow, and then tell me how it relates to his writings about jazz and demonstrates the same defects therein.

    Deal with what he wrote about Maddow, whether it's a reasonable representation about her show, or keep throwing in arguments that 'poison the well'.

    Heck, I don't agree with Crouch on Maddows' sense of humor or her fashion sense(the first time a friend of mine saw her on the tube, he said, "she's a Lesbian"  "How did you know?"  Her fashion sense"), and he probably finds the "Moment of Geek" puzzling or uninteresting.  

    I still think he is correct in his assessment of her on the TeeVee.

    I haven't seen any response yet to WHAT HE WROTE about Ms. Maddow, just that he's such a terrible person that what he wrote about Maddow may be ipso facto ignored all together.

    "Hysteria is not a sign of health."

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    It's not just his views of jazz, Harry (5.00 / 0) (#101)
    by shoephone on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 03:46:14 PM EST
    It's the way he always finds an opportunity to slam white folks, Jews, and women in relation to whatever he is pontificating about. But, for the record, he got his his a$$ canned from Jazz Times precisely because of his racist, sexist and anti-Semitic rantings. It was a huge controversy at the time, and many people thought he had finally lost his mind.

    When he defends his mentor, Wynton Marsalis, against all those mean music critics, he conjures a world in which Wynton's critics are really just sexually jealous -- because, in Crouch's words, Wynton has enjoyed "a finer specimen of woman" than any other man, black or white, ever has or will. (Which is laughable, to say the least.) He makes a mockery of his own obsession with sex and race. He is a total embarrassment.

    Politically, he is no friend to liberals, and his momentary defense of Rachel Maddow means virtually nothing -- only that she is serving his purposes, not the other way around.

    Awards? I couldn't care less what awards he has won. I find it hard to believe that anyone takes him seriously as a thinker.

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    If he wins an award (none / 0) (#105)
    by Harry Saxon on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 08:51:20 AM EST
    overseen by Henry Louis Gates, Jr., I find it hard to credit that he's a racist, YMMV.

    Any other substantial criticisms of what he wrote about Maddow?

    Going once,

    going twice,

    :-D


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