The food had been served, the patrons were long gone, and the cutlery cleaned when Rep. Paul Ryan, his wife, three kids and photographers pulled up Saturday at a St. Vincent de Paul food kitchen in Youngstown Ohio.

Ryan and his wife put on aprons and washed several pans that already appeared to be clean, and then were off to the airport.

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"We're a faith-based organization:  We are apolotical because the majority of our food is from private donations," Brian Antol told The Washington Post.  "It's strictly in our bylaws not to do it.  They showed up there and they did not have permission.  They got one of the volunteers to open up the doors.

"The photo op they did wasn't even accurate.  He did nothing.  He just came in here to get his picture taken at the dining hall.

The 1'st debate went a long way in them making up their minds. The feeling was moved along by a notion that many held, that Obama displayed an attitude of not wanting to even be there, that Romney was not even worthy of sharing the same stage with The President. The disdain that Obama felt was corroborated in a recent British article. Incredibly, Obama left the debate, certain that he had won. LINK.

And, right after the VP debate I was having some spirited arguments here with a few obviously strong Obama/Biden supporters. Their certainty that Biden had mopped up the floor with Ryan was enhanced with a lot of good humored derision. I had quite a lot of difficulty in explaining that "winning" on points was quite different than winning votes. I was almost mocked for comments that generally said, "Don't be surprised when Ryan is declared the Winner." LINK.