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    I liked this post at mediaite about how.... (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by magster on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:01:54 PM EST
    the Dems should treat Nate Silver the way sports' teams treat Vegas point spreads.

    Ignore the line until it becomes more settled, then if it's against you, play the beloved underdog role and try to build momentum off of that.

    So far in the garden :) (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by nycstray on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 09:46:24 PM EST
    We have things  growing! Celery (volunteer from last season), carrots, purple beans, peas, winter squash (3 varieties so far) pumpkin, lemon cukes, stevia (regrowing from last season), garlic, chard, russian kale, basil, parsley (growing freely in the yard now!), greens (salad and asian) and about 9 tomato varieties. Waiting for my seed order (yeah, I'm late!) for a couple more cuke varieties, summer squash and what ever else I binged on. I also am waiting on about 5 more tomato varieties, peppers, onions and leeks to show their little green sprouts . . . need to still seed parsnips and parsley root. Oh and artichokes, cannot forget those. Already have one formed and growing, have 5 plants (2 varieties).

    This year many of my tomatoes and a few other veggies that Rox will spend the summer feasting on will go into my beds at the new community garden I've been working with. Should be less stressful if she's not eating everything while I'm out there working in the beds :P Hopefully she won't take to digging up root veggies like my last girl did, she already finds all the volunteer potatoes I have coming up . . .

    It's a horrible lazy thing (none / 0) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 09:59:40 PM EST
    To admit but IMO the best thing about living in the rural is that everyone has a garden and they all have more than they can eat. And I get the overflow. I keep saying I am going to have a veggie garden but until all the neighbors and relatives cut me off I will be the lazy grasshopper mooching off the ants.

    I have a freezer that is still half full of last years haul.

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    So true (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by Amiss on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 05:28:35 PM EST
    I used to live in the country, had all the vegs, meat and fish and jams,jellies and all kinds of pickles too.
    Life was truly good.

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    Just had the (none / 0) (#84)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 05:35:55 PM EST
    Last of last years okra for lunch .  

    Fried okra ummmm.

    It freezes better than almost anything

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    Honestly, I could get enough variety @ the (none / 0) (#36)
    by nycstray on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 10:10:19 PM EST
    farmer's market down the street (excellent prices also), but I like the dirt and outdoor time. I do share the overflow and this year we are growing (at the CG) several beds for community food needs, so I'll have even more ability to distribute my overflow :) I also still have a fair amount in my freezer from last year. But I do have to remember, I won't see apples, stone fruit, tomatoes, etc for several months yet . . .

    You're lucky you have neighbors who can share that much with you. If I did, I might organize a 'who grows what', lol!~

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    I have a yard full of fruit trees (none / 0) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 10:22:42 PM EST
    Pears peaches plums two kind of apples and two kinds of grapes.  All were here when I bought the place.  We trade.

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    If you lived near here, Capt., (none / 0) (#73)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 02:53:35 PM EST
    You would have more zucchini, tomatoes, potatoes, green beans, etc, than you would know what to do with.  I would be happy to take plums and pears in exchange.   ;-)
    We have two kinds of peaches, three kinds of apples, three kinds of grapes, four kinds of cherries.  But pears don't do well up here, and our plum trees died.

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    You're up (none / 0) (#74)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 02:56:58 PM EST
    near the Catoctin Mountains, right?

    How is the vegetation doing so far considering it's spring and we keep getting snow?

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    I live very close to the top of South Mountain, (none / 0) (#75)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 03:33:34 PM EST
    in Western Maryland, just down the mountain from the Appalachian Trail (we get trail hikers by here fairly frequently). And our vegetation is not doing well at all.
    Last year, by this time (in fact, several days before this time), we were able to get our potatoes planted and sow our first lettuce seeds.
    Not this year.
    Who knows when we will be able to get our potatoes and lettuce in?   Our garden still has snow cover.
    Ugh!  I have absolutely had it with winter!

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    I agree (none / 0) (#76)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 03:40:39 PM EST
    I am a person who prefers cooler weather to hot weather (fall is my favorite time of the year), but I would just like to go outside and not wear a coat!

    I'm trying to tell myself on those days in August when it feels like you walk outside into a furnace that I am going to be thinking of these days fondly!

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    I am sure that we all will. (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 04:12:24 PM EST
    I wonder if, this year, we will have very little Spring, and basically go right into Summer.
    I have heard reports that this will be a very hot Summer.  I really hope that is not the case.
    What can I say?  
    I love Spring (a normal Spring) and Fall (a normal Fall).  A short Spring and a short Fall, with a long Summer and a long Winter, is not my cup of tea.
    We shall see what happens.     ;-)

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    No spring (none / 0) (#78)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 04:42:01 PM EST
    Hot summer.

    So says the 97 yo walking family almanac

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    Don't tell me that! (none / 0) (#79)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 05:11:47 PM EST
    That is what I have heard, and I don't want to contemplate it!

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    Bleh (none / 0) (#82)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 05:20:53 PM EST
    More than just "bleh." (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 06:28:02 PM EST
    How about #!!%=&@^^#**!

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    Why African Americans (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by jbindc on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 06:49:07 AM EST
    are moving back South

    The Coxes' decision is one unfolding in African-American households across the nation. After decades of mass exodus, blacks are returning to the South in one of the most notable migrations of the new century.

    It's a subtle but significant shift that experts say provides not only a snapshot of the changing economics and sociology of the nation but of an emerging new South and, in some cases, of a growing disillusionment with the urban North.

    For most of the 20th century, blacks were buying one-way tickets out of the Jim Crow South in hopes of a better life. Nearly 6 million African-Americans followed the railroads to places like Detroit and Chicago, never dreaming that their children and grandchildren would someday lead a return migration, chasing the American dream back down the Mississippi and straight across the Mason-Dixon line.

    The Great Migration slowly eased in the 1970s as the North's economic fortunes began to dim and the South's racial climate began to improve. But it wasn't until the 2000 Census, when the South posted its first black population increase in more than a century, that demographers started to really take notice. By 2010, about 57 percent of the nation's African-Americans were living in the South - a higher percentage than at any time in 50 years.

    The South, to be sure, has been a population magnet for people of all races since the end of World War II. The region was the top destination for newcomers between 1997 and 2011, picking up 1.52 million people - the majority from the Midwest - according to the US Census Bureau's 2012 American Community Survey.

    What could this mean?

    The Great Migration transformed the nation politically, economically, and culturally. But most experts don't see the current cavalcade in the opposite direction having anything like that level of impact.

    For one thing, far fewer blacks are moving this time. They are also moving back to a region that is far more racially diverse than when they moved up north. Many of the African-Americans returning to the South are settling in urban and rural areas across the region. During the Great Migration, blacks concentrated largely in a handful of Northern cities, where they helped reshape neighborhoods, race relations, and politics.

    Still, any migration of significance will have at least some implications. One could be to boost the Democratic Party, as large numbers of middle-class African-Americans return to predominantly Republican states. Yet their influx could bring new tensions to the party as well: According to the University of Alabama's Giggie, many of the migrants come with a "Northern-inflected liberalism" that may nudge Democrats across the region, traditionally fairly conservative, leftward.



    Yep (5.00 / 1) (#95)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 10:40:04 AM EST
    this is old news here in the Metro Altanta area. We have what is called whole areas that are called "buppie" areas.

    I don't think the tensions they predict are going to happen anymore than they already have been around for decades.

    And I would like to see the age breakdown on a lot of that. It would seem that most of the people who move down here are retired. GA and SC seem to be becoming the new Florida.

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    Not everyone goes to the end of the road (none / 0) (#97)
    by CoralGables on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 01:18:45 PM EST
    I have noticed Hotlanta is in (none / 0) (#104)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 09:26:06 AM EST
    Places a hotbed of left wingers.  One reason why when we must travel there for Josh's surgeries I also experience a sense of relief.

    Will Southern Alabama enjoy new diversity?  I hope so.  It may take awhile though, this "new South" hasn't arrived here yet.  IMO Alabama and Mississippi have been the holdouts on welcoming a new South.

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    I came across (none / 0) (#105)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 08:18:51 AM EST
    an article about your area. I thought of you but darn now I can't remember what it was.

    Anyway Atlanta is probably the most representative of the "new south" though largely the new south does not exist in most of the locations. Most of the south is still stuck in the past. You could say that Sherman did Atlanta a favor by burning it because it is not very nostalgic for the fantasy past like a lot of other regions.

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    This type of tension is much needed IMO (none / 0) (#91)
    by MO Blue on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 07:48:17 AM EST
    According to the University of Alabama's Giggie, many of the migrants come with a "Northern-inflected liberalism" that may nudge Democrats across the region, traditionally fairly conservative, leftward.


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    I have seen (none / 0) (#92)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 09:22:38 AM EST
    A similar dynamic with white.  Boomers like myself coming back to retire.  Pretty much everyone's know here who agrees withme politically is retired from years of living elsewhere.


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    Here's a thought (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 04:20:21 PM EST
    The right is making such a fuss about allowing people already in the system to finish the enrollment process that they may actually BOOST enrollment.

    Next week is the last chance for most people without insurance to sign up for individual health coverage for the remainder of 2014.
    Yet according to the latest monthly tracking poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation, more than 60 percent of those without coverage still don't know that.

    LINK

    Keep squawkin guys.

    Yes (none / 0) (#2)
    by jbindc on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 04:31:35 PM EST
    And their arguments would be completely ignored as crazy if this was the first delay just to allow people to finish the enrollment process. Unfortunately, the administration hasn't helped itself in the PR department as this is the at least the 10th delay (and the second in three months to "allow people time to finish enrolling").  

    Did anyone really doubt that the final Obamacare enrollment deadline would slip, too?

    It's not like the Obama administration is setting a new precedent with its latest move -- giving customers more time to enroll after next Monday's deadline if they're already in line.

    In reality, the administration is just continuing a long pattern of delays. They're all designed to show flexibility and help the law work better, but they also fuel a public perception that Obamacare deadlines never really mean anything.

    The administration already went through the same exercise in December, cutting people some slack if they were stuck in cybertraffic by the deadline for Jan. 1 coverage. Then and now, administration officials argued that it's only fair to give people extra time if they were held up by the volume of last-minute sign-ups.

    But the list of delays covers so much more. The administration has bent deadlines for the employer mandate (twice), put off the launch of the Spanish-language enrollment site and even delayed the enrollment season for 2015 -- pushing it off until after the November midterm elections.



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    First (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 04:41:08 PM EST
    All they are doing is allowing people in the system to complete the process.  Honestly I hardly see how they could other wise.

    Second
    The other day I think I remember you saying you were a realist.  I believe in response to someone suggesting you had republican tendencies.  Which is interesting because that is what I have always considered myself.  Which reminded me of a conversation I had once with an Irish friend about the Protestant Catholic situation there.  I asked
    "What if you are an atheist?"
    "That depends."
    "On what?"
    "On if you are a Protestant atheist or a Catholic atheist."

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    I AM a realist (none / 0) (#4)
    by jbindc on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 04:54:39 PM EST
    The reality is, that in terms of public perception, no one believes that Obamacare deadlines mean anything anymore.

    What happens come mid-April and they still don't have enough people signed up?  Delay again?  Or they actually going to pull the trigger and say, "Ok, we've given you enough time.  Penalties start accruing now?"  My guess is they will do another delay.

    While the extension in this case is for a very good reason, it's not inconsistent or uncalled for when people to just shrug their shoulders and saying, "Typical - another delay."

    I also believe that if the shoe was on the other foot, and this was an implementation of a Republican plan that kept getting delayed and implemented in piecemeal for various groups, you would not be nearly as patient and apologetic about it.

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    Relax (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 04:57:44 PM EST
    It was a joke

    And if republicans were trying to give people health care I can promise you I would be equally patient

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    But you know (none / 0) (#8)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 05:29:37 PM EST
    as well as I do that the Republicans would never be trying to give people healthcare. Well, not the GOP of the last 30 years or so anyway. Nixon did try.

    It's not like they didn't have 6 years in which they controlled everything to do it.

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    Not to be to piocky, GA (none / 0) (#30)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 09:19:44 PM EST
    but no political party can give people health care.

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    Tell that to the Canadians (5.00 / 4) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 09:21:56 PM EST
    I dunno... (none / 0) (#40)
    by unitron on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 11:51:00 PM EST
    ...sounds pretty picky to me. : - )

    But technically, yeah, we're talking about doing something to make sure that people aren't denied health care because the costs aren't covered.

    Which is something Republicans would only wind up doing by accident while doing something to bring about their real objective--making sure that insurance companies get lots of money.

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    ... stand in the way of people's access to health care coverage. Last I saw, it wasn't the Democrats who've brought the repeal of the ACA to a vote on the floor of the U.S. House 50+ times.

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    That was so (none / 0) (#88)
    by Mikado Cat on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 08:27:48 PM EST
    People could keep the healthcare they liked and already had.

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    No One? (none / 0) (#11)
    by squeaky on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 05:50:02 PM EST
    The reality is, that in terms of public perception, no one believes that Obamacare deadlines mean anything anymore.

    Really? CaptHowdy, who considers himself or herself a realist, just offered a different viewpoint.

    All they are doing is allowing people in the system to complete the process.  Honestly I hardly see how they could other wise.

    Oh, I get it, you are once again channeling the GOP and anti ACA POV..  Good thing, now we do not have to listen to FOX

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    Yet again? (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by lentinel on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 07:06:40 AM EST
    O
    h, I get it, you are once again channeling the GOP and anti ACA POV..  Good thing, now we do not have to listen to FOX

    Oy.

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    You Too? (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by squeaky on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 08:46:10 AM EST
    Guess there is a fine line amongst the haters; distinctions between right and left gets blurred.  Animus is a powerful elixir, like taking one teaspoon a day of poison.

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    You got me. (none / 0) (#21)
    by jbindc on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:36:01 PM EST
    I am a Republican shill - you found me out.

    Now we have your WH talking points position.  Good thing we no longer need to listen to Rachel Maddow or anyone on MSNBC now (not that anyone else is watching the anyway).

    It's really cute that the Captain has a little attack dog.  I don't think he needs it as he is perfectly capable of speaking for himself, but it's nice to see his little purse puppy is out in full force.

    I am not going to waste  any more bandwidth squabbling with you since everyone (including me) is sick of it, but since you insist on making cr@p up and starting arguments, we always end up down the rabbit hole.  Please continue this made up argument with yourself.

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    Ah jbindc... please (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 09:22:29 PM EST
    I'm laughing so hard at the thought of Squeaky as an attack dog it hurts...

    But as a dog lover I call a foul on you for insulting attack dogs.

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    Insults (none / 0) (#24)
    by squeaky on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:41:17 PM EST
    Insults are the lowest form of dialogue, and serve no purpose other than to feed the ego of the insulting party...

    sarcasm is a close second.

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    Nice doggie (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:40:05 PM EST
    ;-)

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    Woof (none / 0) (#25)
    by squeaky on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:42:24 PM EST
    More like (none / 0) (#42)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 06:48:45 AM EST
    Yap, yap.

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    Yap yap? (5.00 / 2) (#52)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 09:36:01 AM EST
    Pot meet kettle

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    Here's another thought (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 05:16:12 PM EST
    If they cut those people off in the middle of the process how long do you think it would take for you and Hannity to start using them as people examples of more people screwed by the aca enrollment process?

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    Not sure why you want to lump me with Hannity (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by jbindc on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 05:50:47 PM EST
    I can think that extending the deadline (yet again) is a necessary thing but also think that this (again) shows how terribly thought out this bill was and how horrible this rollout process has been.

    They aren't mutually exclusive propositions. And being a smart person, I can hold two thoughts at the same time.  I'm sure you can too, but in this case, you don't want to.

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    Because you both (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 05:55:06 PM EST
    Leap on every hiccup of the aca.  No further comparison intended in this context.

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    And you parrot WH talking points (none / 0) (#22)
    by jbindc on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:37:19 PM EST
    So no further benefit is needed to assume you can hold two thoughts at the same time.

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    We are even (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:38:33 AM EST
    For the cooties

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    Oops (none / 0) (#65)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:43:24 AM EST
    That was supposed to be a reply to the comment about the deadline

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    I was thinking about this whole (none / 0) (#7)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 05:27:31 PM EST
    enrollment thing today and honestly I think they made a mistake only giving people a few months to enroll. Unless they had started enrolling people before everything was up and running like KY or had done some sort of auto enroll like Hillary suggested back in 2008, they should have given people a year to enroll. They should have had everything set up at the beginning of 2013 and then everybody who wanted to could have been enrolled by Jan 1, 2014.

    Overall this thing has not been thought out very well at all. But policy has not been Obama's strong point ever.

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    I would think the enrollment period (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 05:43:14 PM EST
    Is an  insurance company thing.  Just like in a company there is an enrollment period.  But no argument about clusterfu@k this has been.  I have been a pretty raliable defender but
    Obama blew this.  How could this possibly happen..  All we are talking about is the most important thing he has done or will ever do and the metric his administration will be judged by.
    I think it will work out.  And the benefits of the law will eventually erase all this.  But there is no question it was the mother of all unforced errors.

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    Obama (5.00 / 4) (#29)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 07:45:20 PM EST
    resides in a bubble much like GWB did. Both of them prefer this bubble to the real world. Remember that time that Obama left Bill Clinton to explain his policy while he went off to a dinner? Obama likes being president not doing the job of president and one of the jobs is making sure things happen when they are supposed to happen. He even said back in 2008 he likes to hand policy off to someone else and apparently he does not follow so he gets walloped when things don't work because of this. I think that being the first African American president is what he thinks his legacy is. So he's just not concerned about policy. I mean he even handed this humongous project off to Baucus to do. I mean if it's so important to your "legacy" wouldn't you kind of want to keep tabs on it from time to time on how it was advancing?

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    I ask... (none / 0) (#43)
    by lentinel on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 07:05:40 AM EST
    why is there a deadline?

    Why can't people just sign up when they can?

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    I ponder (a la Jack Handey)... (5.00 / 2) (#45)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 08:20:58 AM EST
    if you really think about, there is but one deadline in the universe...death.  All others are artificial man-made nonsensical deadlines.

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    Well, (none / 0) (#50)
    by lentinel on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 09:30:55 AM EST
    death as a deadline would be just fine.

    So - why are they wiggling around with if you don't sign by March 31 we will sue you, burn you and kill you?

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    A big part of the ACA... (5.00 / 3) (#54)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:19:43 AM EST
    is delivering mandated customers to the insurance cartels...I'd imagine the insurance lobby wants the mandate enforced sooner rather than later.

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    There is no sue or burn or kill (none / 0) (#56)
    by CoralGables on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:21:44 AM EST
    just a small fine unless you're in a state that didn't expand medicaid and you would have been eligible for medicaid if they did. Those folks get a waiver so they aren't punished due to the actions of a poorly elected state government.

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    I know (none / 0) (#87)
    by lentinel on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 07:06:39 PM EST
    I drifted into hyperbole...

    but in countries like France it is just so simple for the citizens to sign up - and from what I've heard Britain too, Canada too.

    So why the big mess of confusion stateside?

    The answer, I suppose, is that Obama was searching for an "American model" -- that is to say one in which the for-profits have a controlling interest.

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    Because (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:30:48 AM EST
    Insurance companies need to know the pool they are dealing with, and so does Medicare.  The new rates for 2015 have to be set in the next couple of months, and those rates will be based largely on the number of people in the system. What many fear is going on right now (besides the fact that many people still can't afford to pay for a plan if they've never had one), is that people are waiting around if and until they get sick to sign up for a plan.

    And yes, for the subsidies, and for when the penalty kicks in on next year's taxes.

    Just as if you had employer-based insurance - you can't decide to sign up whenever you want. You get to sign up when you start a job, and then during the "Open Enrollment" period (usually at the end of the calendar year), unless another qualifying event takes place.

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    Thank you (none / 0) (#63)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:37:03 AM EST
    As I under stand it (none / 0) (#51)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 09:34:49 AM EST
    The deadline is to get the subsidies.  You can still sign up but you won't be eligible for subsidies thru the exchanges.  And I would imagine the cutoff to avoid the penalty.

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    Relax (none / 0) (#9)
    by CoralGables on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 05:36:15 PM EST
    Pick UCLA and the Gators will coast. The superstition will continue to live on.

    I already did (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 05:51:15 PM EST
    UCLA +5.

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    UCLA's a good team, ... (none / 0) (#20)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:33:36 PM EST
    ... but I think that Florida is a little better -- so I'm picking the Gators, 73-69.

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    Could we just establish a (none / 0) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:04:50 PM EST
    "Lost airplane channel". For people who can't get enough so the rest of us can move on.

    Google news says the plane (none / 0) (#38)
    by oculus on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 10:31:29 PM EST
    "crashed,"  Did I miss something?

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    Who knows (none / 0) (#39)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 10:34:09 PM EST
    They found some stuff.  I hope to god they found it.

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    AN AXE LENGTH AWAY, vol. 314 (none / 0) (#18)
    by Dadler on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:08:07 PM EST
    His life coach has a restraining order against him. (link)

    v. 313
    v. 312

    Couldn't make squat happen on the felt today. Was pretty much card dead and could never get in a spot to make any real poker plays (someone was always raising big ahead of me). Way it goes.

    Peace to all.

    Stuff happens, eh?? (none / 0) (#33)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 09:25:19 PM EST
    Try changing around and get super aggressive...can't hurt.

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    I got stupid aggressive... (none / 0) (#46)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 08:39:00 AM EST
    in this new local underground donkament with rapid blind I got turned on to last night, and busted on the first hand, lol.

    You guessed it, pocket rockets.  I suppose I could have folded went the guy over the top for half our starting stacks on a J-10-Rag rainbow flop, but I ain't that good...and he flipped over J-10.

    Luckily the game is right down the block from OTB, and I was able to win my buy-in back at Charlestown Races while I waited for my friend to finish.  

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    I tried Google translate on this... (5.00 / 3) (#53)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 09:38:58 AM EST
    You guessed it, pocket rockets.  I suppose I could have folded went the guy over the top for half our starting stacks on a J-10-Rag rainbow flop, but I ain't that good...and he flipped over J-10.

    but it was no help   :-)

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    Now you know how I feel... (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:21:04 AM EST
    reading the financial section of the newspaper trying to figure out the crimes of the week...may as well be speaking Greek;)

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    If it was (5.00 / 2) (#60)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:31:19 AM EST
    in Greek, at least I would understand it.  Without Google translator.        ;-)

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    either a pair of aces (none / 0) (#57)
    by CoralGables on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:25:00 AM EST
    or a very fast small motorcycle, or something that can't be mentioned at TL but you might find at an online toy store.

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    I thought a riceburner... (none / 0) (#66)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:45:18 AM EST
    was referred to as a crotch rocket, not a pocket rocket.

    Slang is the best;)

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    The little (none / 0) (#89)
    by Mikado Cat on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 08:33:33 PM EST
    bity ones are pocket bikes?

    The way I translated it you were paying your math teacher.

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    "I got a rocket in my pocket" (none / 0) (#98)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 01:45:57 PM EST
    To get your Friday Groove on: "A finger in the socket"

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    Oh baby... (none / 0) (#99)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 02:06:58 PM EST
    that's what I like!

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    Underground?? (none / 0) (#48)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 08:55:43 AM EST
    You talking about a home game?? If so, don't! As a very senior citizen I have seen too many people get hurt in these.

    Another thought.

    If people are routinely raising large in front of you they may have an image of you as a Timid Tightie and are doing some major bluffs on you.

    You can either.

    a. Reraise -- If you are beat at least you haven't worn out another seat for three hours and then lose... If you are right you will change their image of you and you can get back to your usual strategy.

    b. Find a new game.

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    Quasi Homegame... (none / 0) (#49)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 09:21:15 AM EST
    It's actually held in a restaurant with a big private back room...they had a good crowd, 36 entrants 4 tables.  Small stakes, $ 50 plus $ 10 but ya get free food & soft drinks with your vig.  

    Obviously I didn't stay in long enough to get a proper feel, but everything looked/felt on the up and up.  Alotta OTB degens were playing, seems soft...or so says the donk who busted on the first hand;)

     

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    kdog thought you might enjoy this (none / 0) (#102)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 10:57:20 PM EST
    Last satellite I played in I did that (none / 0) (#81)
    by Dadler on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 05:20:47 PM EST
    For the WPT tourney down in San Jose. Except I had the guy AA to QQ. Of course, he hit a lady on the turn and I was in the parking lot with my engine still warm. Oy.

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    If the rules will let you.... (none / 0) (#101)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 10:27:22 PM EST
    try buying in but don't take a seat until the first level has passed. You will lose the blinds but that will filter out a lot of the people who try to immediately double up by "getting lucky" with trash.

    My sympathy on the bad beat.... But not much. I just finished a ring game in which I lost three sets, two straights and one flush.....

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    I tried to a few times (none / 0) (#80)
    by Dadler on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 05:19:52 PM EST
    Just one of those days. Every hand someone was flipping over the nuts, big pair, trips, you name it. You play enough, as you know, and you'll see it all.

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    CA State Sen. Leland Yee (D-S.F.) ... (none / 0) (#19)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:18:52 PM EST
    ... was among 26 people who were arrested by the FBI during pre-dawn raids this morning in connection with an illegal gun trafficking operation allegedly being run by reputed San Francisco Chinatown underworld kingpin Raymond "Shrimp Boy" Chow.

    Yee --a child psychologist by trade who's an announced candidate for CA Sec. of State -- and former San Francisco Board of Education President Keith Jackson have since been charged with public corruption in federal court this afternoon, for bribery and wire fraud under the federal "theft of honest services" criminal statutes. Mr. Jackson and his son Brandon have also been charged with murder for hire.

    I'm sure we'll hear much more about this developing case in the coming days.

    Aloha.

    So, today before the Court (none / 0) (#26)
    by jbindc on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:43:18 PM EST
    Same-sex marriage in Michigan (none / 0) (#27)
    by jbindc on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:48:32 PM EST
    Gov. Rick Snyder

    "After comprehensive legal review of state law and all recent court rulings, we have concluded that same-sex couples were legally married at county clerk offices in the time period between U.S. District Judge Friedman's ruling and the 6th U. S. Circuit Court of Appeals temporary stay of that ruling.

    "In accordance with the law, the U.S. Circuit Court's stay has the effect of suspending the benefits of marriage until further court rulings are issued on this matter. The couples with certificates of marriage from Michigan courthouses last Saturday were legally married and the marriage was valid when entered into. Because the stay brings Michigan law on this issue back into effect, the rights tied to these marriages are suspended until the stay is lifted or Judge Friedman's decision is upheld on appeal."



    I wouldn't click that link (5.00 / 3) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 at 06:55:20 PM EST
    It's Snyders web site. I feel like I have cooties now.

    It's almost fun watching the increasing desperation of the Ricks of the world.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#41)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 06:48:20 AM EST
    It's the governor's official website.  Linked to it from the Detroit papers, so you can actually see for yourself what he says as opposed to reading it through the filter of some news outlet or with spin.

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    No Need To Click The Link (none / 0) (#58)
    by squeaky on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:30:09 AM EST
    jbindc quotes Snyder's entire press release (aka spin) in his or her comment.

    It is odd that you would think that the Governor is pure and his website does not contain spin.

     

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    It's odd (none / 0) (#61)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:34:03 AM EST
    That you don't understand that presenting what the governor actually said in its entirety is what is going to be the law for now in these same-sex marriage cases. It's not a case of spin, but I understand that what I presented is a complex subject and above your level of understanding.

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    Why Not Quote the Court Decision? (none / 0) (#67)
    by squeaky on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:52:05 AM EST
    Splitting hairs here no doubt, but you have suggested that what the governor says about an event is without spin, while the reporting of an event by news outlets, talking heads, etc has an agenda.

     

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    Because the court decision (none / 0) (#70)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:08:13 AM EST
    To extend the stay doesn't actually say how Michigan will treat thost 300+ couples that got married on Saturday, because that's not their purview. But the governor did, which is why his statement was the more important one.

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    Oh (none / 0) (#71)
    by squeaky on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:53:09 AM EST
    So the governor can decide what is legal marriage despite what the court says? And he decided that the marriages prior to the stay are not valid?

    Are you saying that Snyder could have decided that the gay marriages prior to the stay are kosher even though there is a stay?

    Hmmmm...  does not sound right to me.


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    Well (none / 0) (#72)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 12:11:16 PM EST
    Since he consulted with his legal team, including the Attorney General (who is the person who challenged the ruling in the first place), and since the state is the one who gets to decide what marriages to recognize at this point, then yes, he gets to decide what is legal marriage in the State of Michigan.  (Please note, that despite "what the court said", as you put it, a higher court put the brakes on that, so Snyder is currently in compliance with "what the court said").

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    Here, I'll dumb it down for you (none / 0) (#62)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:36:25 AM EST
    Here's an article from the liberal paper in town -the Detroit Free Press, which says the exact same thing.

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    So is he (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:53:58 AM EST
    basically saying you were legally married but now you're not?

    He sounds like he's trying to twist himself into a pretzel.


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    Politicians (none / 0) (#69)
    by squeaky on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:05:54 AM EST
    Politicians try to make everyone happy. One hand goes one way the other a different direction..  often the opposing hand and arm gestures results in the politician resembling a pretzel.

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    Governor Snyder's (none / 0) (#93)
    by KeysDan on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 10:17:31 AM EST
    statement seems confusing and inconsistent: "couples with a certificate of marriage...were legally married and the marriages are valid..."    The US Circuit Court stay " has the effect... of suspending the benefits of marriage until further court ruling."  "stay brings Michigan law back into effect, the rights tied to these marriages are suspended until the stay is lifted or Judge Friedman's decision is upheld on appeal."  

     If the marriages were legal and valid why would the rights that convey to those marriages not be recognized?   The stay would seem to apply to continued issuance of certificates of marriage, validity of any marriages performed, and, of course, any state benefits--i.e., bringing the Michigan law back into effect.   Also, the Governor seems to be saying that Michigan will stop at, and abide by, the appellate ruling (if upheld).  On another front, Attorney General Holder has indicated that the federal government will recognize the valid Michigan marriages.

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    Politics (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 10:32:16 AM EST
    If the marriages were legal and valid why would the rights that convey to those marriages not be recognized?

    Because, IMO, Snyder is Republican and he needed to pander to his base.

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    Agreed. But, Snyder's (none / 0) (#96)
    by KeysDan on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 10:46:51 AM EST
    argument seems vulnerable to legal challenge, not to mention, common sense.  Even Utah was ahead on this one.  But, then, as you note, that has nothing to do with anything in this case.  

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    SITE VIOLATOR!!!! (none / 0) (#103)
    by caseyOR on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 07:43:24 AM EST