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March Madness! Sweet Sixteen, Night 1

My picks: UCLA +5 over Florida, Arizona -7½ over San Diego State, Dayton +3 over Stanford, Baylor +3½ over Wisconsin.

Go Gators!

Open thread, sort of.

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    Go Big Red! (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Towanda on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 07:09:22 PM EST
    Badgers get a great start, up by 10 in no time.

    Uh, Armando (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by bmaz on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 09:47:38 PM EST
    Will you PLEASE quit picking Arizona teams? I told you not to do that with ASU, and yet you jinxed em. Now here you are doing it again to Arizona. Was that REALLY necessary?

    Didn't hurt 'em tonight. (none / 0) (#23)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 02:47:24 AM EST
    The Wildcats rallied by a very good San Diego State team.

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    From our "Lather, Rinse, Repeat" file: (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 02:46:41 PM EST
    Politico continues to build upon its already formidable reputation for passing off fact-free political gossip to those Beltway-obsessed types who like to believe that they're really in the know, all under the guise of "insightful analysis." But for the rest of us who reside in the reality-based part of the country, this sort of nonsense is nothing short of an insult to our collective intelligence:

    "It was supposed to be an easy win: The most loathed federal agency engaged in what amounted to discrimination against tea party-backed nonprofits. But 10 months out from the first IRS scandal headline, some Republicans are unhappy with their party's investigation -- and they point a finger at the man who helped sustain the national uproar: Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.)."

    (Sigh!) Setting aside for the moment my observation that Politico continues to use obsolete abbreviations for U.S. states from the 1940s and '50s, you can pretty much see from the opening sentence where this is going.

    In this instance, Politico thoughtfully sought to provide a loudspeaker and platform for malcontented House Republican wingbats who are angry that Congressman Issa has lately shown some understandable reticence in carrying their water for them -- which is completely understandable, given the extensive criticism he's received for the high-handed and misleading manner in which he's conducted this "investigation," such as it is.

    Word to the editors at Politico -- the notion that the IRS singled out GOP-allied right-wing groups exclusively for additional scrutiny and political discrimination with regards to their applications for non-profit 501c(4) status was thoroughly debunked months ago. In short, this has been a completely manufactured political scandal from its very outset -- though you'd be hard-pressed to ascertain that from Politico's continued flogging of this D.C.-centric faerie tale, which in and of itself should be considered scandalous.

    The only way the top folks at the Beltway's version of "Hollywood Confidential" are worth the six-figure salaries they reportedly command, is if one first moves the decimal point on their paychecks a further two places to the left. And anyone who continues to cite Politico as a credible source of information and analysis deserves all the ridicule they'll subsequently get from me.

    Aloha.

    A "season"? (5.00 / 2) (#43)
    by lentinel on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 05:42:19 PM EST
    I am really getting fed up with the term "season" when applied to current tv shows.

    "Sherlock" has a "season" of three - count 'em three - shows.

    And some other have seven or twelve a year and that's it.

    Some of this is due to the unconscionably bloated budgets of these programs. I harken to programs of a bygone era in which a story was told with a cast - often with one or two sets. And these shows have lasted for generations. Mary Tyler Moore for example.

    The programmers have substituted scenery for content.

    And then the other shows - with about 22 per year - they have lapses of three weeks sometimes between programs - for no apparent reason. Who can follow the plot threads?

    One can no longer count on a particular show being on at a particular time on a particular day.
    Except for the "news" - or those horrid clones of night shows - with the millionaire semi-comedian talentless hosts. That, we can count on.

    The rest --- not so much.

    12 (none / 0) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 05:57:27 PM EST
    Is I think an average number for a season on cable.  Sometimes more sometimes less. Not sure if you are talking about broadcast.  Never see it.  

    But most of us would not give up Game of Thrones for MTM.

    Adult entertainment, that is r rated entertainment has moved to cable.  A lot of people are very happy with that.

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    Actually, (none / 0) (#64)
    by lentinel on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 06:02:46 AM EST
    I was primarily referring to broadcast shows - ie: the mentalist, the goodwife, revenge, and even one I actually think is a good show, "elementary".

    They are the ones taking these sudden, expected and weird breaks of three weeks between shows. If there is some kind of plot thread, it is forgotten before they deign to give us the follow-up show. They sometimes begin with a "previously on blah blah" bit to catch us up - but this is usual boring and uninformative.

    And the sets! Good Lord! Who needs the grandeur - and paying millions to medium range actors like Simon Baker - who is now just walking through his part and banking on his smile to carry him along until he can go home.

    As for cable - I have similar complaints.
    I really like - as a show - boardwalk empire. Twelve shows - and then you wait a year. Ooof.

    I think they could cut down on all the expensive locales and sets and produce more programs.

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    I confess I love (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 08:13:59 AM EST
    The expensive sets and costumes.  I had gotten accustomed to the short seasons I guess.   I even sort of like them now because there is always something else coming in its place.  American Horror Story was replaced - at least as far as something I care about seeing - by the Americanc on FX Black Sails was replaced by DiVincis Demons on STARZ, I can't remember what is being replaced by the new season of Game of Thrones on HBO.  My current favorite series in Red Road on Sundance.  The season finale is next week and I'm sure it will be replaced by something.  They are coming hard and fast.   I love the look of Penny Dreadful and The Knick and really looking forward to Fargo.  And I really liked the first season of Masters of Sex.  About Mastes and Johnson.

    I like my tv.

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    Oh (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 08:27:07 AM EST
    And thank god and whoever invented the DVR.  I can see them when I want and I never have to sit thru a commercial again.

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    Whether due to old age or living on the cheap (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by CoralGables on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 08:54:21 AM EST
    you mentioned 10 different tv shows and I possess zero knowledge of a single one of them. (though I do know Masters & Johnson)

    I will however be watching the Gators and Flyers later this afternoon.

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    Ha (none / 0) (#70)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 08:57:28 AM EST
    Cable is my most expensive utility, well electricity is more I guess, but I get my moneys worth.

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    Btw (none / 0) (#71)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 09:01:51 AM EST
    By Masters and Johnson do mean you know who they are or you know the series?  If you are at all interested in their story you would most likely like the series.  It's sort of a historical drama based on a book about them and what they did.  There is so much about them and what they went through to do what they did that I had no idea of.  It is really one of the best things I have seen on TV.  The first season ended with them really just on the verge of serious research.

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    Studied some of their work while in college (none / 0) (#72)
    by CoralGables on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 09:18:30 AM EST
    Did they tell you that they did all their early (none / 0) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 09:56:56 AM EST
    Work in brothels because they couldn't do it anywhere else?

    Not to go on but on review there was so much I left out of that.
    True Detective, Banshee - how could I forget Banshee, it was the one I looked forward to every week until the season ended and it became Red Road - there a revolutionary war one called Turn that looks good, one called Outlander also good.   And one called American Gods Based on a Neil Gaiman that could excellent.


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    In turn... (none / 0) (#74)
    by lentinel on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 10:47:25 AM EST
    I know those fershimmeled programs... I hesitate to confess...

    But Gators and Flyers?

    I know nothing about them. Zero. Zilch.

    I know something about Roger Federer and Maria Sharapova tho...

    Other than that, I am sports-illiterate.

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    I can (none / 0) (#75)
    by lentinel on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 10:50:14 AM EST
    see expensive sets and costumes in shows that demand them...

    but CSI?
    The Mentalist?

    Anyway.

    My point was not to put a wet blanket on your or anyone's enjoyment.

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    I know (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 10:55:33 AM EST
    I can be effusive about cable.


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    It's because (none / 0) (#67)
    by jbindc on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 08:20:06 AM EST
    British TV shows never go as long as American - they are called "series" and are usually 6-8 episodes (where an American TV show has around 20 episodes for a whole season).

    In the case of Sherlock, that is considered a "mini-series".

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    Based on what a college friend from the UK told me (5.00 / 1) (#86)
    by Farmboy on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 11:35:32 AM EST
    (FWiW) it's common for the budgets of BBC shows to allow for about six hours of taping each series (this is why half hour BBC comedies often have 12 episodes).

    To allow each episode of Sherlock to have cinematic pacing the producers chose to tell six hours of story in three episodes.

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    ISU/U Conn too close to call? (none / 0) (#1)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 03:40:58 PM EST


    While I'm concerned about my Clones not (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Farmboy on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 08:58:44 AM EST
    having all their starters, I still think the Mayor can lead them to victory over UConn.

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    Tomorrow (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 03:43:28 PM EST
    I'm not scared to death. Will be enjoying Mitsuko (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 03:53:34 PM EST
    Uchida recital (piano).

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    Priorities :) (none / 0) (#4)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 04:40:47 PM EST
    Said it before; will say it again (none / 0) (#5)
    by Peter G on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 05:11:56 PM EST
    Don't bet against The Tree (that is, Leland Stanford Junior University).

    17:44 2nd: Dayton 47, Stanford 36. (none / 0) (#7)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 07:41:26 PM EST
    The Flyers are looking pretty tough.

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    5:00 2nd: Dayton 73, Stanford 63. (none / 0) (#9)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 08:23:22 PM EST
    Every time the Cardinal attempt to make a run, the Flyers have successfully countered. And Stanford's big man, Stefan Nastic, has just fouled out.

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    El Palo Alto Is Shrinking (none / 0) (#10)
    by Michael Masinter on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 08:24:53 PM EST
    It was taller when I was a student, two nicknames ago.  Dating back to the first UCLA championship teams, speed has usually beaten size in college hoops.  Just ask Ralph Sampson.

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    Ok, never mind (none / 0) (#11)
    by Peter G on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 08:56:40 PM EST
    Good run for Stanford this season.  Good night.

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    I just (none / 0) (#8)
    by lentinel on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 08:10:42 PM EST
    watched an episode of the new CBS series, "Intelligence".

    It felt to me as if the funding for this program came directly from government interests.

    In this episode, in passing, we were made to feel that "rendition" and putting people in black holes were faits accomplis, no big deals, and we should accept it and move on.

    This took about a minute of time during a discussion in the middle of the "plot". I think it was a subliminal indoctrination. It went by so far you couldn't think about it.

    W lives.


    Much prefer (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Amiss on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:32:38 PM EST
    Scandal

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    I'll (none / 0) (#27)
    by lentinel on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 09:17:05 AM EST
    try it.

    I'm looking for something entertaining.
    I don't ask for too much.

    But jeez-louise - to be subjected to agenda-driven rightwing scary propaganda - unrelenting at that - in the midst of a semi- sci-fi show like "Intelligence" ("Stupidity" would be a more apt title) is exhausting. And a wee bit scary.

    They even, in a roundabout way, are letting us know that nuclear war with the Russians is on the table.

    And for several episodes that I watched, they present a caricature of Muslims - Syrians, you name it - that should shame the nation. It's what they used to do with black people. But even those black caricatures had humor and some originality. These portrayals of Muslim terrists are like something out of championship wrestling  or a bad comic book.

    Pure racist propaganda to prepare us for unending war.

    I'm astonished that, to my knowledge, there hasn't been some kind of big stink about this show from civil rights groups.

    Anyway - thanks for the recommendation about "Scandal".
    Will try it.

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    Yes Scandal (none / 0) (#37)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 04:45:31 PM EST
    I thought that one was really good, too.

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    I tried "Scandal" for 2.5 episodes. (none / 0) (#52)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 06:12:27 PM EST
    Speaking for myself only, I think it's overacted, overwrought, overblown and over the top. I can't even consider the show as campy, because it obviously takes itself way too seriously to have any notion of camp sensibility. For the most part, I find it both silly and unwatchable.

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    All quiet. Must be basketball. (none / 0) (#13)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 10:43:39 PM EST
    Interesting interview of neuroscientist James Fallon on public radio. He was an all nature no nurture advocate until he discovered his brain indicates he that of a psycopath. . Gotta read his book:

    "The Psychopath Inside"

    What possibly could you mean (none / 0) (#14)
    by CoralGables on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:06:36 PM EST
    Scottie Wilbekin...THREEEEEEE

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    A resounding victory. (none / 0) (#16)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:23:36 PM EST
    Oh no (none / 0) (#15)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:18:06 PM EST
    Now I gotta read THAT book.  We have the nature vs. nurture discussions around here a lot.  Some things seem nature and very hardwired in, and some things seem to be affected by nurture.  In my youth I thought nurture fixed everything.

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    Go Gators! (none / 0) (#17)
    by Amiss on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:29:11 PM EST
    By 11I think it was

    ugh (none / 0) (#18)
    by Amiss on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:30:27 PM EST
    By 11, I think. Fla had 79

    The Gators pressure defense (none / 0) (#20)
    by CoralGables on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:32:43 PM EST
    takes a serious toll on other teams as the game wears on.

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    Could BTD change his bet while the game was being (none / 0) (#21)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:38:04 PM EST
    played?  Talk about mixed emotions.

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    I agree (none / 0) (#22)
    by Amiss on Thu Mar 27, 2014 at 11:40:27 PM EST
    My ugh was for my typo :)
    Gator here all my life. Passed it on to my Grandson, he called to ask me to send him a new Gator hat, he said his is worn out. BTW he lives in NC.

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    NH's push to legalize pot is dead (none / 0) (#24)
    by jbindc on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 06:10:18 AM EST
    Now that is really (none / 0) (#29)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 11:59:32 AM EST
    suprising in that supposedly "libertarian" state of New Hampshire.

    Here in GA there is a push for medical marijuana but I think it died. I'm sure no one is suprised at that one.

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    So much for the... (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 01:46:54 PM EST
    'Free State' project, lol.

    New Jersey legislature is making a sanity-based move to legalize recreational, but I guess Christie doesn't want any competition in the state's munchie market because he has vowed to veto.  

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    It really disappointed me (none / 0) (#87)
    by Amiss on Sun Mar 30, 2014 at 02:16:16 PM EST
    Hubby is from N.H. so we kinda keep up, but it means we have NO chance down here in Fla.

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    I am afraid (none / 0) (#33)
    by Amiss on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 02:38:33 PM EST
    If N.H. couldn't get it passed, afraid Fl. certainly
    won't get it done.

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    "Live free or Die" (none / 0) (#53)
    by NYShooter on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 06:16:53 PM EST
    Yup, they love their liberty in The Granite State. Unfortunately, they love their punishment more.

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    Quandary. (none / 0) (#26)
    by lentinel on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 09:08:03 AM EST
    How would it be possible to dismiss charges that Bush and Cheney are war criminals?

    How would it be possible to allow Bush with getting away with saying, several times, to us and to the world, "We don't torture"?
    Does this not constitute a bald-faced lie - and easy to prove?

    The answer to this dilemma was found by a real sneaky genius - Mr. Cheney.

    When confronted the other day with the well-known fact that he and Bushy endorsed and encouraged the widespread use of waterboarding, Cheney-pie simply answered majestically:

    "Some people called it torture. It wasn't torture."

    Case closed.

    By the way, some people say that the earth is round. It isn't.

    Verschärfte Vernehmung (none / 0) (#28)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 09:28:21 AM EST
    Not sure why you are surprised, enhanced interrogation technique has been around for some time. Once called  Verschärfte Vernehmung, and I am sure that there have been other names for it in many languages.

    Torture is spelled differently and when uttered as a word sounds
    completely different than enhanced torture.

    No doubt that Cheney knows what real torture is, from experience. As far as he is concerned waterboarding is a walk in the park.

    Not torture.


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    The first word in the German phrase (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 05:35:15 PM EST
    Is an adjective, which should not be capitalized. [scribe.]

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    Wikipedia (none / 0) (#42)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 05:40:27 PM EST
    Someone [scribe] needs to edit the Wikipedia entry for enhanced interrogation technique..

    I copied and pasted it straight from the page.

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    True. (Do you have an opinion (none / 0) (#44)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 05:46:14 PM EST
    re crediting wiki as a source?)

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    No (none / 0) (#46)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 05:48:25 PM EST
    Do you?

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    Sometimes, if I don't find a (none / 0) (#47)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 05:52:31 PM EST
    more respected source.  (andgarden taught me not to employ "airquotes.")

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    Airquotes? (none / 0) (#51)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 06:04:26 PM EST
    and garden taught me not to employ "airquotes.

    Air quotes, also called "finger quotes" or "ersatz quotes" are virtual quotation marks formed in the air with one's fingers when speaking....

    Air quotes are often used to express satire, sarcasm, irony or euphemism, and are analogous to scare quotes in print.

    Wiki

    "Did you mean scare quotes?

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    When quoting wiki as a source (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by CoralGables on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 06:31:08 PM EST
    air quotes are a given.

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    Oh (none / 0) (#57)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 06:38:01 PM EST
    I get it.

    In this case, there is no dispute about the veracity of the term  Verschärfte Vernehmung, save for possible mistake by Wikipedia for using capital letters when they should have used lower case.


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    My German is flawless. (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 06:39:45 PM EST
    I always liked (none / 0) (#59)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 06:42:20 PM EST
    Germans

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    Do you like Germans because ... (none / 0) (#62)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 05:24:08 AM EST
    ... they instinctually defer to your authority and always follow orders -- or because they have the best beer hall songs? ;-D

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    Yes (none / 0) (#65)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 08:04:25 AM EST
    Really? (none / 0) (#60)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 07:24:52 PM EST
    What is he like, besides flawless?

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    That is a really personal question! (none / 0) (#61)
    by oculus on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 02:36:40 AM EST
    The term he/she used meant (none / 0) (#54)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 06:23:27 PM EST
    a statement of purported fact w/o citation of authority.

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    Did I say (none / 0) (#36)
    by lentinel on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 04:28:05 PM EST
    that I was surprised?

    The shame is that we have let him get away with it.

    So - he and his boss are still with us in spirit.
    He and his boss have been tacitly granted immunity by their sheepish successor.

    Here is where you say that I am a shill for the GOP or Fox.

    I'll save you the trouble.

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    Not Fox or GOP (none / 0) (#38)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 04:56:29 PM EST
    Here is where you say that I am a shill for the GOP or Fox.

    No. You are shilling for something else than GOP or FOX, even though your one note tune often sounds about the same.

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    As (none / 0) (#39)
    by lentinel on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 05:32:05 PM EST
    usual, you have shifted the discussion to an ad hominum attack.

    The topic of my original post was about how Cheney has admitted endorsing and championing waterboarding.

    His boss, GW Bush, explicitly told the world that, "we do not torture".

    In order to resolve this contradiction, Cheney has simply said that waterboarding is not torture.

    I say he is full of sh-t.

    Your response was to lapse into a labyrinth of word derivation.

    And now it is followed by personal insult.

    That is why a conversation with you is impossible.

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    Attack? (none / 0) (#41)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 05:38:24 PM EST
    Your feigned innocence is transparent:

    Here is where you say that I am a shill for the GOP or Fox.

    I'll save you the trouble.

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    Correct (none / 0) (#45)
    by lentinel on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 05:48:16 PM EST
    Your one note tune often sounds about the same.

    It is not a personal attack.
    It is on point and responsive to content.

    You're right.

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    Personal Attack (none / 0) (#55)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 06:28:11 PM EST
    Seems like you are fine to dish out but when you get it back you start whining.

    Oh, right,.. when you insult you are only stating a fact..

    hahahahaha

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    AN AXE LENGTH AWAY, vol. 315 (none / 0) (#30)
    by Dadler on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 01:40:17 PM EST
    She flunked the class on defensive driving. (link)

    v. 314
    v. 313

    Only 50 more of these to go to reach my goal of 365 within a year. And I will be glad to quit for awhile, my creative OCD needs a new pursuit.

    Dadler Jr., the 8th grade trombone virtuoso, currently has viral bronchitis and will be lucky to blow his horn before a month from now. But young bodies heal fast if they can. Here's hoping he does. Because I am a Jewish mother trapped in the body of an atheist father and, damn, I get worried sick about my beautiful boy (link).

    Peace.

    All things must pass... (none / 0) (#32)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 02:05:54 PM EST
    This picture is a heartbreaker...Mars Bar was the spot where I gave my one and only live performance as an MC back in the day.  A Lower East Side dive bar staple now a TD F*ckin' Bank.  So sad.

    New York I Love You But You're Bringing Me Down

     

    Imo... (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by lentinel on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 10:55:56 AM EST
    and it is only that, the decline of my beloved NYC began with Mr. Koch. He was first elected as a liberal... but his ties with the Real Estate biz began the crumbling of Rent Control.

    All the artists had to abandon their dwellings in the Village, the East Village, and SoHo.

    The rents went thru the roof and are still climbing.

    The closing of the 2nd Avenue Deli was my sad moment that I might equate to your sadness about the Mars Bar.

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    Not True (none / 0) (#79)
    by squeaky on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 11:30:36 AM EST
    All the artists had to abandon their dwellings in the Village, the East Village, and SoHo.

    IT is true that NYC has dramatically changed but all the artists did not lose out. The loft law is still in effect. Many artists still live in east village, west village and soho, and many who have been able to purchase their lofts either made a ton of money on their real estate or are sitting on a very valuable asset.

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    Last (none / 0) (#80)
    by lentinel on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 12:04:57 PM EST
    time I priced a medium sized loft in lower Manhattan - near Spring Street, the going rate was about $750,000!

    That was about 10 years ago.

    In any case, all the artists I know moved to Brooklyn.

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    Now (none / 0) (#81)
    by squeaky on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 12:19:14 PM EST
    Fully renovated (high end) lofts now around $2000 sq ft.

    Gut renovation (low end reno) around $1500 sq ft..

    I would imagine that your mid size loft (1500sq ft) is now going for between $2.2 - $3 million.

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    So... (none / 0) (#82)
    by lentinel on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 01:14:21 PM EST
    as I said, the artists I knew who used to be able to rent, were squeezed out - couldn't afford to buy - went either upstate, or to the outer boroughs - washington heights... or left the country.


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    OK (none / 0) (#83)
    by squeaky on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 01:20:16 PM EST
    I believe that your artist friends left because of high rents. I assume that they were not living in lofts covered by the loft law.

    Artists who rent under the loft law are protected. The law is on the books and many artists still live in areas that are covered by the law.

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    Yes. (none / 0) (#84)
    by lentinel on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 01:46:30 PM EST
    They left because of high rents.

    I was no fan of Mr. Koch...

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    My sympathies, kdog. (none / 0) (#63)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 05:47:31 AM EST
    The powers that be converted my favorite watering hole in Kailua, a wonderful local dive called Fast Eddie's, into a friggin' Walgreens. Where once I saw artists like Dave Mason and Jethro Tull rock the house, they now sell Metamucil and Pepto Bismol. There really oughta be a law against this sort of thing.

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    Jonas Mekas Movie (none / 0) (#78)
    by squeaky on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 11:23:40 AM EST
    The Jonas Mekas short film from Marz Barz was nice to see..

    He is still kicking at 91 years old.. He is a living legend..

    Mars bar... well things change. we can count on it.

    gotta roll with the punches. Nostalgia is not a good thing, imo.

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    Mike Rodgers (none / 0) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 04:23:04 PM EST
    Head of the house intelligence committee is leaving congress to start a radio show.  To reach a larger audience.  Says a lot about who really controls our country doesn't it.


    Maybe Another Reason (none / 0) (#48)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 05:57:24 PM EST
    Happy Birthday Emptywheel
    And I honestly wonder whether Rogers got caught revealing information so sensitive that he was told, by the Intelligence Community, to take a hike.....

    Mind you, most of the high volume of classified information Mike Rogers leaks, he does so with the blessing of the Intelligence Committee, as Gang of Four members are increasingly expected to serve as cut-outs for the Intelligence Community. Plus, much of what he "leaks" is in fact disinformation.

    Still, there are a number of stories that reveal NSA intercepts, many placed with conservative journalists, that could very easily have come from him. Some of them have been deemed more immediately damaging than all of Snowden's leaks. Rogers would be legally protected under the Speech and Debate Clause, but there'd be good reason to remove him from his sensitive position, if he had been discovered to be the source for those stories.



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    Even better (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 28, 2014 at 05:59:19 PM EST
    Gators lead by 14 (none / 0) (#85)
    by Amiss on Sat Mar 29, 2014 at 06:02:55 PM EST
    at the half.