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Glad Jennifer Jason Leigh got a nomination -she was so good, really went for it. As did the entire cast - Walton Goggins had a bigger role than I expected, and I enjoyed seeing him work with the Tarantino dialogue. I like dialogue heavy films, but I guess this is not for everyone if you don't like talk just for the sake of it.
It was bloody when it was bloody, but not a constant thing. I expected worse.
I give it 4 of 5 stars. I'd see it again.
I also think Trumbo was screwed. I hate to go on about FR but freaking seriously. It was an interesting franchise movie. It was a 2 hour car chase with great makeup. There was so many better movies this year.
End of rant. Parent
Really liked the camera work in Hateful Eight too....the indoor shots of Minnie's with characters in the background scattered around that marvelous set. It was always just so interesting to look at and listen to. I can understand the critiques that it was somewhat soulless and non emotional but that was ok with me in this case. Parent
I figured if the men's rights groups hated it there was a good chance I would not hate it. And I liked it.
Both Theron and Hardy were excellent, as was the supporting cast. Is it Best Picture worth Your? Probably not, but it is hardly the worst film ever nominated in that category.
And it is a very entertaining movie. Parent
It's doesn't matter to me when THE WALKING DEAD airs I try to watch it pretty soon to avoid spoilers from social media but I've never actually watched it live either.
So really this criticism about the debate schedules does it hold up? Isn't it true that anyone and everyone who truly wanted to watch a debate had an opportunity to do so without changing their holiday schedule and other viewing habits? Pretty sure that's true.
Giving thumbs ups and thumbs downs from the bleachers of the coliseum is more fun for them/better ratings than following a candidate on the trail through Iowa. Parent
That said, I'm a bit more sympathetic to the complaints that there are too few debates. Which is not to say I personally believe there have been to few debates only that IMO that is a more cogent complaint. Parent
There is a reason that many organizations, even during this era of 24/7 news cycles and the internet, still release potentially embarrassing information late on Friday night. Yes you could argue that it doesn't really matter when you divulge this information since presumably it will be available online, on 24/7 cable news shows etc - BUT everyone knows there are clear advantages to being able to control when information is available to the public. Parent
And I just learned she is nominated for a Oscar for the song till it happens to you from the movie Hunting Ground. The video is grim. It's about rape. But the song is stunning and amazing
I will be very surprised if she doesn't win again. I hope she does.
The 2015 email -- sent by former District Attorney Bruce Castor to successor Risa Vetri Ferman -- details an apparent verbal agreement the prosecutor had a decade earlier with Cosby's attorneys for Cosby to testify in a civil sexual assault case brought against him in 2005. In the email, Castor writes that his intent in making the deal was to create an atmosphere in which Cosby accuser Andrea Constand would have the best chance of prevailing in her civil suit against the 78-year-old comedian by removing the prospect of Cosby invoking his 5th Amendment right.
The email was sent three months before criminal charges were filed against Cosby in Montgomery County in December, and could call into question the viability of the case, CNN has learned.
In it, Castor writes to Ferman: "I can see no possibility that Cosby's deposition could be used in a state criminal case, because I would have to testify as to what happened, and the deposition would be subject to suppression.
"I cannot believe any state court judge would allow that deposition into evidence. .... Knowing this, unless you can make out a case without that deposition and without anything the deposition led you to, I think Cosby would have an action against the County and maybe even against you personally."
Can the deposition still be used as evidence??? Parent
Obama unveils plan to reform unemployment insurance President Obama on Saturday unveiled an unemployment insurance plan that he says will provide stability and opportunity to workers in a rapidly changing economy. The president's three-pronged plan includes wage insurance of up to $10,000 over two years, expanded unemployment insurance coverage and more opportunities for laid off workers to retrain and reenter the workforce. link
President Obama on Saturday unveiled an unemployment insurance plan that he says will provide stability and opportunity to workers in a rapidly changing economy.
The president's three-pronged plan includes wage insurance of up to $10,000 over two years, expanded unemployment insurance coverage and more opportunities for laid off workers to retrain and reenter the workforce.
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I think it was CST that said she liked Lame Duck Obama the best. I have to agree that I like more of his policies now as well.
Al Gore, a guest on the Bill Maher show last night, applauded the move as part of Obama's legacy in tackling climate change, especially the burning of coal for electricity.
New rules could freeze construction of new coal plants, shutter existing plants, limit US investment in foreign plants, and keep coal in the ground.
Coal, except for Mitch McConnell (R.KY), is known as a dirty and dangerous source of energy; it adsorbs every thing (on an illustrative micro level, charcoal has been used in poisoning cases for years, since it adsorbs toxins on it surface. coal picks up almost everything). When burning coal, what goes up in the air is bad (heat trapped gases) and what remains behind is bad--a sludge of heavy metals, such as arsenic, stored in land fills and contaminated pools.
A good part of his legacy. It took the president so long to understand that having a "brother in Christ" like former Senator Tom Coburn (R.OK) does not necessarily translate into forging policy. Parent
The newly reported Citibank loan for about $500,000 was a line of credit. It was not stated what the collateral was, if any was needed to obtain it. A former election commission official, Kent Cooper, stated that the Cruz letter was "lacking critical information." Another "paperwork error." apparently.
As of this posting, USMC and Navy personnel, as well as Air /Sea Rescue elements of the Honolulu Fire Dept and Police Dept., have been searching the waters off the north shore, but to no avail. The 12 missing personnel were all stationed at Marine Corps Base Hawaii - Kaneohe Bay, on the windward side of Oahu.
Per a few witnesses to last night's accident, they reported first hearing a loud explosion and then seeing a very large fireball in the sky off of Haleiwa, with debris raining into the ocean. Thus far, a single unmanned life raft that's believed to be from one of the two helicopters has been found, after it washed up on shore this morning.
Unfortunately, given the thundering 45-foot swells pounding Oahu's north shore today, it appears unlikely that anyone could have survived the crash and the terribly rough seas.
This is the third major accident in the last five years involving Marine Corps aircraft operating in Hawaiian skies. Last May, two Marines were killed and another 20 injured when their MV-22 Osprey aircraft crashed during a training exercise at Bellows Field in Waimanalo on Oahu. And in March 2011, one Marine was killed and another three injured when their CH-53 helicopter - similar to the two aircraft involved in last night's collision -- crashed into Kaneohe Bay while attempting to return to MCBH in a driving rainstorm.
Aloha. Parent
I just hope somebody remembered to send the rubbers...nothing puts the kibosh on a kinky slumber party like STD's.
I must say I'm pretty proud of the feds for learning from past mistakes, and not taking the heavy-handed approach with this batch of loons. Kill 'em with kindness and pleasure aids;) Parent
I wonder if the fed installed listening devices.
I will say this, you have got to be bored out your mind if you have a box of sex toys sitting around, or worse, went out and purchased them just to be an ahole and ship them across the country.
I might have to get me di1do stocks, from Texas using them as guns to shipping boxes of them to the militia... Parent
Bundy Bodyguard 'Fluffy Unicorn' Arrested in Arizona Ammon Bundy's bodyguard from the early days of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge standoff has been arrested for an outstanding warrant in Maricopa County, Arizona, according to a report from E and E Publishing. ... ...During his time in Oregon, Cavalier went by the code name "Fluffy Unicorn" at the refuge. Link
Ammon Bundy's bodyguard from the early days of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge standoff has been arrested for an outstanding warrant in Maricopa County, Arizona, according to a report from E and E Publishing. ... ...During his time in Oregon, Cavalier went by the code name "Fluffy Unicorn" at the refuge.
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Seems "Fluffy" openly boasted that he was a retired Marine. But according to the Daily Mail, US Marine Corps records prove he never served and is in fact a tattoo artist with a long rap sheet for DUI. Parent
First Militiaman Arrested In Connection With Oregon Standoff Police arrested one of the Oregon militiamen Friday for driving a refuge truck -which was the property of the federal government - into town. According to the Oregonian, 62-year-old Kenneth Medenbach was arrested in a Safeway parking lot for "unauthorized use of a motor vehicle." He was already on probation, according to the paper for his ties to an earlier anti-government standoff elsewhere in the state. Link
Police arrested one of the Oregon militiamen Friday for driving a refuge truck -which was the property of the federal government - into town.
According to the Oregonian, 62-year-old Kenneth Medenbach was arrested in a Safeway parking lot for "unauthorized use of a motor vehicle."
He was already on probation, according to the paper for his ties to an earlier anti-government standoff elsewhere in the state.
I still can't help comparing the treatment of these yahoos to even how The Occupy Groups were treated let alone how PoC are treated.
Equal justice under the law...not so much. Parent
WABC report
Alleged sexual assaults at Occupy Wall Street camps have raised concerns about security in a handful of cities, including reports of rape and groping in tents at New York's Zuccotti Park and a sex offender in Dallas having sex with an underage runaway.
"These protests have a history of welcoming everyone and just assuming they're on your side," said David Meyer, a professor of sociology at the University of California at Irvine, who studies protest movements.
The recent reports of assaults have created a problem the "Occupy" movement is being challenged to address head-on.
"We always encourage victims to go through the proper channels and contact police," said Brendan Burke, 41, who helps run the security team in Zuccotti Park.
But that's not always the case. Burke admitted there have been times when members of the community have taken it upon themselves to chase off men who exposed themselves in the park.
"If there is a consensus that someone is bothering another person, the community will take care of it," he said. "Still, we always notify victims to contact police."
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg -- addressing the allegations of sexual assault today -- said the reported practice of chasing perpetrators, rather than reporting them to police, is "despicable." If the reports are true, he said, the protesters have made the city less safe. Parent
There is one diffence that you failed to mention, people in the Occupy movement did not carry high powered weapons or threaten violence if interfered with. Parent
Occupying property that does not belong to them.- check
Destroying government property - check
Stealing government vehicles - check
Unlawful use of government computers - check
The only thing missing in this is the police destroying the property of the men occupying the government buildings in Oregon and making them leave the premises.
But you know that. Parent
Sorry, but I am most familiar with the events in NY Parent
I can't help but think immediately of the late reich-wing dirty trickster Andrew Breitbart, who stood on the perimeter of the Occupy encampment yelling "rape!", in an attempt to incite the cops to wade into and disperse the crowd. Parent
Real cute.
Like the alleged, unconfirmed Bloomberg ties to the kiddie p#rn industry..
Anyone can play that game..
All you have to do is preface the smear with "alleged" and "reports of" and you're more-or-less in the clear. Parent
Why is this different? Parent
That they seem to be driven by our drug polices and what he sees as abuse is my understanding.
Of course he can show up and correct me. Parent
I don't think he got up and into the van with a severely injured spinal cord. Did it happen in side? Yes. How? We don't know but I have problems thinking he did it himself.
Did it happen in side? Yes. How? We don't know but I have problems thinking he did it himself.
To me it is obvious that if it happened inside then the police have some responsibility.
OTOH I criticized the mayor and the prosecutor and the rioters.
In the Garner case I pointed out that he died while resisting arrest. Said attempt resulted from shop owners calling the police because he was selling, according to reports, loose cigarettes. Seems kind of silly but shop owners don't want the sidewalk in front of their shop blocked.
I also noted that the police supervisor on the scene was a black female so it wasn't racial.
And I suggested several times that the police needed more training.
I also noted that we need to teach our children to not resist arrest.
I see my positions as balanced.
My question to kdog was based on his positions re the police and drug laws. Both of which he finds wrong. (I do too but not to the extent he apparently does.)
OTOH he seems to support the Feds and what they are doing re the Bundy's and others taking over government land in Oregon which follows their dust up last summer with the BLM. Based on what have read I found the BLM to be wrong.I also found Bundy to be wrong but I see no other way they could have effectively made their point.
So that was my question to kdog. His positions seem to conflict.
As does the positions of many on the Left.
On one hand they oppose the police for enforcing various laws they see as unjust.
OTOH the cheer the Feds for gobbling up thousands of acres of ranch lands.
Reminds me of opposing the Sheriff's men while cheering on the King's Foresters . Parent
Ohhhh man.
Thanks for that. Parent
is unbalanced?
Really???
Is noting that Garner died after resisting arrest and calling for more police training because the grand jury didn't indict so what happened was seen as legal? What would be your solution regarding how to arrest a person who is physical refusing to be arrested?
Do you think that creating a culture in which children see resisting an arrest is the thing to do?
Do you remember I fought the law and the law won??
So do you have anything to add that would support your obvious personal attack claims?? Parent
Do you support First Nation people and private citizens occupying them?
Of course you don't. Parent
All three are "anti."
Oh. Wait! I know!
You support the first two but don't the last.
Now that is "unbalanced." Parent
Some people vote Democrat and refuse to vote Republican.
Now that is UNBALANCED! and downright hypocritcal.
lol. Wtf? Parent
I just think these militia guys are clowns. I love me some civil disobedience, but it's best served with a point. And I can't figure these guys point really outside white rage, and the guns make it uncivil disobedience. Occupy Wall St. they are not my brother.
That's why I like the counter-protest of shipping them gag gifts...non-violent and entertaining. Parent
And the government has acted like a large jack booted thug, in changing grazing rights and land usage, what they perceive is detrimental to those that live in those states. Many states are now in the process of trying to regain control of these lands. Parent
Only one of those choices is truly American, there are no shades of gray on this one. Parent
I'll take a pass on handing the keys to the vault to any crook,charlatan or corporate puppet that happens to buy/lie/prostitute themselves into a Governor's mansion. State legislatures can be even worse.
For all intents and purposes(in the present context at least) the Federal government owned all this land long before the states even existed. They have more or less given away the majority of it to the States or private ownership. With decidedly mixed results on the "wise use" front, and many of the bad results were truly ugly.
This precious land belongs to we the people, there is no logical reason to give any more of it away to the fools and crooks who will almost inevitably get a shot it. Parent
I still feel local government is best for guidance for public land use in a state.
It is also easier to punish local government crooks than Federal
The VA is a prime example. Parent
Of course they opted for open borders and unlimited immigration and look what happened to them. Parent
But congratulations you have won the internet today (non-sequitur division.) Immigration, WTF? Parent
So you're claiming that they had some sort of meaningful choice?
It's been estimated that the native population had been reduced by 80% by disease by 1700.. Parent
And the government has acted like a large jack booted thug, in changing grazing rights and land usage, what they perceive is detrimental to those that live in those states.
And it isn't just out west. Many land owners have seen mud puddles declared waterways and told what they can or cannot do with property they have owned for years.
The whole BLM and EPA structure is seen as government ran wild. Parent
They prefer "moderation".
People say that they are hoping for HRC because the polls say that she is one who will beat Trump or Cruz or whomever.
But in reading the posts, it becomes more and more apparent to me that most people posting here are, in fact, more comfortable her stances on war and peace, and on the economy, than the views articulated by Sanders.
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
It's not that I hate Hillary - I don't.
I really don't see any Democrat being able to steamroll the GOP in the area of legislating; whatever brick walls were put up for Obama are just going to go higher and deeper for Clinton or Sanders.
So, what does that mean for the liberal agenda? It means being louder, it means fighting harder, it means going to the people. It's not that I don't think Clinton can do that, it's just that I don't know that she will do that. Parent
Most of a Clinton or Sanders second term will take place after to the 2020 election and census and redistricting. If we put the effort and cash into down-ticket races, we could, over the next two election cycles, take control of a fair number of state houses and, thus, control Redistricting, which could break the GOP stranglehold on the House of Representatives.
This is a very close second, in terms of importantance, to winning the White House. Clinton has vocally and forcefully committed to rebuilding the Democratic Party and winning down ticket. She has raised money for that effort. Has Sanders done the same? I do not know if he has or not. If he has, well, I wish I could find some info on that, but I have not been able to.
Is Bernie, who is not a member of the Democratic Party, committed to the rebuilding of the Party's control of Congress?
A Democratically controlled Congress will give a President Sanders or a President Clinton a much better chance of enacting liberal or progressive or whatever you want call it, legislation.
The second term could really be something. Parent
On the rest I agree. Parent
It's the entire basis of his campaign...taking it back from the special interests, the corporations, the banks, the financiers...and the Democrats and Republicans who sold it out from under us.
I'm not convinced Democratic control of congress is enough...depends on who the Democrats are and what their agenda is and who they owe favors too.
Case in point, one of my Democrat senators is Chuck Schumer...his arse got to go just the same as the Republican senators. Otherwise, this presidential election, like the dozens before it, don't mean much. Parent
And, of course it matters which Democrats fill those Congressional seats. That does not change the fact that we must win the down-ticket races in 2016, 2018 and 2020. Parent
Obviously to win he needs to bring a massive number of disillusioned citizens to the polls who usually don't see the point...should he accomplish that, I think those voters will realize the heavy lifting comes after a Sanders victory. Parent
The American people voted them in to end the war and get us home.
Instead, they kissed W.'s keister and send thousands more American souls into the death-pit. A pit from which we have yet to emerge.
It is also worth remembering that the Democrats had control of both houses of congress and also the presidency in 2008. Along with that they had the good will of the world.
We're in more wars than we were then. And Obama, the Democrat is eerily asking for another AUMF.
So, ultimately, if things are going that way, who cares what party these people belong to? Parent
Plus the Demos promised to bring back cheap gasoline. (hehe)
Some anti-war/pacifists may have voted because of the war. But in reality the war was important but not a burning issue in fly over country.
The result was Demo control that was anti oil that spurred the speculators to believe that there would be shortage due to reduced drilling. Oil spiked to around $145/barrel mid July '08. Bush finally issued an EO that opened up new drilling areas..around 8/1...and the bubble burst.
But it was too late. McCain was destroyed by the economy, not the war.
Obama won and despite the warnings of the military implemented Bush's terms and ISIS was birthed.
So you're right. We are much worse off. Parent
I don't want a 1-termer. I want someone who can slog it out. I think Hillary is more likely to win the optics fight.
For that matter - what would Sanders do with a Democratic senate and congress that Hillary wouldn't? That didn't exactly work smoothly for Obama and he was even more of a moderate than Hillary. Parent
Carter, first of all, was in office during the spectacular rise in the cost of oil. There were gas lines. People couldn't get to work.
And here comes Carter, telling Americans to turn down their thermostats while he was dressed in a sweater sitting in front of a roaring fireplace.
He deserved to be thrown out.
My point is that Carter's being a one-termer had nothing to do with optics.
And, in my opinion, for the things I am interested in fighting for, Sanders is much more determined, energetic and persuasive than Carter ever was. Parent
The American people were sickened by Nixon - and then Ford who pardoned Nixon and left the stench of his presidency with us.
People welcomed Carter - an outsider.
But I was around in those days, and remember growing weary of him quite quickly - and the American people, not having accomplished what they had hoped for in throwing out Ford, went about throwing out Carter as well.
If he was, as you say, energetic, determined and persuasive, I did not feel it at the time.
I will not argue that Reagan was a horrible president with a horrible legacy.
But I also cannot feel that Carter deserved another four years. I remember the gas lines, the skyrocking prices of heating fuel. Interest rates going through the roof... What a mess.
And, as I wrote above, that little show in which he dressed up in front of a fireplace was offensive to everyone's intelligence.
(imo) Parent
Wow Parent
Carter did not cause the gas crisis and its attendant long lines, as well as high heating oil costs. That was OPEC's doing. And while there are those who think the U.S. should just go and grab whatever we want from other nations, in this case oil from OPEC, that is not how it works.
High interest rates? You do remember the Nixon and Ford administrations don't you? Do you recall Greald Ford's oh so clever WIN buttons, the "Whip Inflation Now!" Publicity stunt with which he planned to corral high interest rates? That had nothing to do with Carter.
Or maybe it was the solar panels Carter installed on the White House roof, or his very visible insistence on elevating the stature of human rights in our diplomatic efforts to that you don't like. Perhaps you opposed his push for some amount of peace in the Middle East, the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel. Or perhaps you just did not like his belief that our response to every troublesome situation should not be a military one.
There is no pleasing you. Parent
And yet, I cannot find fault with the American people for denying him another term.
What you say is true, about the peace talks with Begin and Anouar el-Sadate at Camp David, about OPEC...
But I felt what I felt at that time. Misery. A sense of going nowhere. Even a sense of chaos.
So we wound up with Reagan.
You have written persuasively, so I would ask you... To what do you attribute Carter's defeat? Parent
To what do you attribute Carter's defeat?
But he also admonished them, "In a nation that was proud of hard work, strong families, close-knit communities and our faith in God, too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption. Human identity is no longer defined by what one does but by what one owns." Hendrik Hertzberg, who worked on the speech, admits that it "was more like a sermon than a political speech. It had the themes of confession, redemption, and sacrifice. He was bringing the American people into this spiritual process that he had been through, and presenting them with an opportunity for redemption as well as redeeming himself." Though he never used the word -- Caddell had in his memo -- it became known as Carter's "malaise" speech.
Boomerang Reaction
Perhaps appreciating the president's astonishing frankness, the public rewarded him with higher approval ratings in the days that followed. But then, as historian Douglas Brinkley notes, "it boomeranged on him. The op-ed pieces started spinning out, 'Why don't you fix something? There's nothing wrong with the American people. We're a great people. Maybe the problem's in the White House, maybe we need new leadership to guide us.'" Historian Roger Wilkins concurs: "When your leadership is demonstrably weaker than it should be, you don't then point at the people and say, 'It's your problem.' If you want the people to move, you move them the way Roosevelt moved them, or you exhort them the way Kennedy or Johnson exhorted them. You don't say, 'It's your fault.'" From PBS http://tinyurl.com/3b5qpmj Parent
Reading it confirms my feeling at the time... and now.
When I read,
In a nation that was proud of hard work, strong families, close-knit communities and our faith in God, too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption.
it makes my flesh crawl. Extreme perhaps, but I bristle at this kind of lecturing to the people of this country.
Like it's our fault.
Obama was doing some of that in 2008 - especially, as I recall, aimed at Black people --- which is what led Jesse Jackson to remark that Obama was talking down to Black people --- and everybody turned on Jackson -
Anyway... Thank you. Parent
Carter did not cause the gas crisis and its attendant long lines, as well as high heating oil costs.
Carter lost when he came on TV in a sweater and told people to be cold.
People kept on expecting him to do "something" to rein in OPEC and then the Iranians drove the nail in his coffin by seizing our embassy.
He looked weak and was weak.
Remind you of anyone?? Parent
George W. Bush rode into office swinging his Schwantz and puffing his chest, strutting like a self-absorbed peacock across the world stage. How'd that ultimately turn out for everyone?
The fact-free fairy tales you spin here are directly attributable to your obvious infatuation with the "Schwantz-swinging" superficiality of present-day GOP politics. In your world, it's more important to look and talk tough, than to actually BE tough.
Well, as the late Hawaii Gov. John A. Burns once admonished a politic critic, "Any goddamned fool can draw a line in the sand." REAL tough guys neither fear nor regret that peace will somehow prevail over conflict, as you so often seem to do here in these threads. And they aren't afraid negotiate with their adversaries and risk failure in the pursuit of that peace.
You completely lost me with this one. Better luck next time. Parent
But when you say,
Actually he made me uncomfortable and nervous because I knew that, at the core, he was right.
could you tell me what made you uncomfortable and nervous - and what you are referring to as the "core" that you came to feel he was right about?
I just remember the uncomfortable and nervous part. But not any core whatsoever...
The "intelligence" matter I referred to was specifically that TV show during the oil crisis - the heating oil crisis - in which he told us to turn down our thermostats as he posed - a la FDR - in front of a fireplace. Like we all have fireplaces... Parent
All of us must learn to waste less energy. Simply by keeping our thermostats, for instance, at 65 degrees in the daytime and 55 degrees at night we could save half the current shortage of natural gas.
I guess I still am. While I follow his advice to wear a sweater, I still don't have it in me to keep my house that cold in winter. Or summer. I still knew he was right.
And frankly, until you mention it just now, I never gave the fireplace setting a single thought. Parent
I think what made me angry at the time, and still does, is my feeling that the oil companies were soaking us, and instead of confronting them as the greedy folks they are, Carter told us to use less heat.
And the distinction between the OPEC and American Oil companies is, I believed then and I believe now, to be specious.
Of course, I believe in the conservation of energy. But that is for environmental reasons - as well as economic ones. The electric bills are outrageous.
But rightly or wrongly, I felt Carter's admonition as one that let the oil companies off the hook - and one of encouraging us to take it and like it.
On top of it, I vividly remember being appalled by the "optics" of his presentation - the fireplace and all. Parent
Carter (none / 0) (#41) by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 15, 2016 at 04:50:51 PM MDT ran against the party much as Bernie is doing. So when he got to Washington a lot of people just sat on their hands.
ran against the party much as Bernie is doing. So when he got to Washington a lot of people just sat on their hands.
Carter's "outsider" status was due to the fact that he was a Governor (of Georgia!!!) and had not the opportunity nor need to build alliances or accumulate favors within the beltway prior to his Presidency. So the beltway courtiers "sat on their hands".
Sanders is no stranger to the beltway. And shocker!! He's a.... (gasp!) politician!!
So, like I said, specious.
Or was there a hidden crux in this particular lump of poo that you are throwing against the wall? Otherwise, prove your point about how they "ran against the party" with specifics. Parent
But please, continue. Explain how Carter "ran against the party". Then explain how Sanders "runs against the party". Then do an accurate comparison.
Otherwise, I'm done following you into this rabbit hole. It stinks in here and has no light. Parent
I don't know about Carter. Just saying that's how I think Bernie runs against party. Parent
kmkmiller, thanks for your thoughts but I was hoping to narrow the focus of the discussion using her own words until Georgia could either put up or shut up. Unfortunately you inadvertently provided a way for to escape such a fate.
GA, carry on with your misinformation campaign without me. Just don't put any more wrong words in my mouth. Parent
here but you're going to have to read down to find the part about Kennedy. Parent
Here's a better description, and some analysis:
Senator Bernie Sanders speaks directly to the camera as xylophone tones signal an explainer is about to come. "There are two Democratic visions for regulating Wall Street," he says, as a camera pans across nondescript office buildings. "One says it's O.K. to take millions from big banks and then tell them what to do." An animated informational graphic then takes over, as Mr. Sanders summarizes his plan: "Break up the big banks, close the tax loopholes, and make them pay their fair share," to fund "health care for all" and "universal college education." Animated pictograms show a faceless banker in a suit handing over a bag of cash to a couple with two children and a stroller. The close of the ad returns to Mr. Sanders: "Will they like me? No," he says. "Will they begin to play by the rules if I'm president? You better believe it." An obvious contrast with Mrs. Clinton without mentioning her by name. As the Clinton campaign criticizes Mr. Sanders's health care plan and his record on gun control, Mr. Sanders has been fighting back, saying Mrs. Clinton's campaign is attacking him from the right. This ad furthers that argument, painting Mrs. Clinton's promises to regulate Wall Street as disingenuous. [...] Mr. Sanders had promised to not run a negative ad in the campaign, even pulling a digital spot in December that he felt was in a "gray area." But as tensions rise in the Democratic primary, and as Mr. Sanders finds himself on the defensive on health care and guns, his campaign is retaliating in kind.
An animated informational graphic then takes over, as Mr. Sanders summarizes his plan: "Break up the big banks, close the tax loopholes, and make them pay their fair share," to fund "health care for all" and "universal college education." Animated pictograms show a faceless banker in a suit handing over a bag of cash to a couple with two children and a stroller. The close of the ad returns to Mr. Sanders: "Will they like me? No," he says. "Will they begin to play by the rules if I'm president? You better believe it."
An obvious contrast with Mrs. Clinton without mentioning her by name. As the Clinton campaign criticizes Mr. Sanders's health care plan and his record on gun control, Mr. Sanders has been fighting back, saying Mrs. Clinton's campaign is attacking him from the right. This ad furthers that argument, painting Mrs. Clinton's promises to regulate Wall Street as disingenuous.
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Mr. Sanders had promised to not run a negative ad in the campaign, even pulling a digital spot in December that he felt was in a "gray area." But as tensions rise in the Democratic primary, and as Mr. Sanders finds himself on the defensive on health care and guns, his campaign is retaliating in kind.
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In the pantheon of campaign attack ads, this one seemed gentle enough: Senator Bernie Sanders explains his intention to regulate the financial industry, including breaking up the big Wall Street banks. [...] Last month, the Sanders campaign promptly pulled a digital ad that referred to Mrs. Clinton as "bank funded," and his aides said the negative ad had been the result of a "miscommunication." The Sanders ad comes after Mrs. Clinton has intensified her attacks on his health care proposals and record on gun control legislation. In an ad, broadcast in Iowa and New Hampshire on Tuesday night during the State of the Union address, Mrs. Clinton seemed to draw a contrast with Mr. Sanders on gun control, without mentioning him. "It's time to pick a side," she said. "Either we stand with the gun lobby, or we join the president and stand up to them. I'm with him."
Last month, the Sanders campaign promptly pulled a digital ad that referred to Mrs. Clinton as "bank funded," and his aides said the negative ad had been the result of a "miscommunication."
The Sanders ad comes after Mrs. Clinton has intensified her attacks on his health care proposals and record on gun control legislation.
In an ad, broadcast in Iowa and New Hampshire on Tuesday night during the State of the Union address, Mrs. Clinton seemed to draw a contrast with Mr. Sanders on gun control, without mentioning him.
"It's time to pick a side," she said. "Either we stand with the gun lobby, or we join the president and stand up to them. I'm with him."
Clinton's "outrage" is as disingenuous as the content of her latest salvos. Parent
However it seems that many are seeing it as an attack on them not just Hillary. And then he says he wants a "course correction" from Obama which will be popular in some quarters however I have to wonder how that kind of thing is going to play out in the primary. Parent
An environmental advocacy group is throwing its weight behind Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, airing an ad in Iowa and New Hampshire that highlights his extensive record on climate change. link
If you haven't seen it yet, take a look. It is very nice ad and IMO very well done. Parent
And, Senator Sanders is untested in ability to defend, protect and advance in the face of a national campaign of opposition the likes of which he has never experienced.
Maybe he can, but the stakes are too high and outcomes too risky to find out the hard way. Not sure he would be able to sit before a Benghazi-like committee of hostiles for a full day and leave with their scalps nailed to the wall.
As a citizen who worries that a Trump/Cruz administration would render the country unrecognizable within two years, and the fact that we have two otherwise good candidates in Sanders and Clinton, although I believe Mrs. Clinton is most presidential, I would look to the most electable.
Just got a chance to see a recording of the Rachel Maddow interview with Mrs. Clinton. I think she was excellent; this is a good forum for her and she needs to take greater advantage of such opportunities. Look forward to the next debate. Parent
Either one would face a Republican House and perhaps a Democratic Senate by a vote or two. What is Bernie going to do in that environment? I think he would be done....
Hillary could fight it out with the GOP.....
Bernie is just ideas....maybe good ideas....but he has no idea how to implement them. Parent
Hillary, though...she could fight it out with the GOP, right?
Bernie's just ideas? Do you imagine that he just sprang, fully formed, from the head of Zeus?
Here, read this; it's clear you need some enlightenment.
Here are a few more things to ponder, from people who seem to know what Bernie's done with his ideas:
Won a mayoral election by a hair, proved he could work successfully with the business community despite their initial resistance. Took a blighted, neglected waterfront, convinced the city to fund a renewal project when the business community would not, then turned around and presented them with a vibrant opportunity (which they eagerly took advantage of). A win-win that boosted the city's financial situation and ensured his subsequent electoral wins were, to understate, substantial. As a congressional candidate, managed to gather a widely diverse state behind him - Vermont, after all, is a very rural state whose rural citizens are rock-ribbed conservatives - and go on to serve his constituents so well that even the rock-ribbers have voted for him, and did so when he set his sights on the Senate. Has served admirably in the Senate, standing up for working Americans, veterans and others who have been political footballs/placeholders/choose your own descriptive - working across the aisle as needed to accomplish his goals.
As a congressional candidate, managed to gather a widely diverse state behind him - Vermont, after all, is a very rural state whose rural citizens are rock-ribbed conservatives - and go on to serve his constituents so well that even the rock-ribbers have voted for him, and did so when he set his sights on the Senate.
Has served admirably in the Senate, standing up for working Americans, veterans and others who have been political footballs/placeholders/choose your own descriptive - working across the aisle as needed to accomplish his goals.
We have a very recent example from last year. Sen. Sanders drafted a monstrous piece of legislation to support and start repairing the Veterans Administration following the scandal that broke in Arizona. The price tag on the bill was $2 billion! It failed in the first attempt, but Sen. Sanders went to the Republicans and negotiated a compromise and together they brought the bill to the House where it passed the House 420-5 and passed the Senate 91-3. It was signed into law immediately by President Obama. I can assure all of Bernie Sanders' doubters that Hillary Clinton would not have been able to get a nearly unanimous passage on a $2 billion spending bill in 2014. Not a chance in hell.
Sen. Sanders drafted a monstrous piece of legislation to support and start repairing the Veterans Administration following the scandal that broke in Arizona. The price tag on the bill was $2 billion!
It failed in the first attempt, but Sen. Sanders went to the Republicans and negotiated a compromise and together they brought the bill to the House where it passed the House 420-5 and passed the Senate 91-3. It was signed into law immediately by President Obama.
I can assure all of Bernie Sanders' doubters that Hillary Clinton would not have been able to get a nearly unanimous passage on a $2 billion spending bill in 2014. Not a chance in hell.
Happy reading. Parent
For as long as he has been there, he is known as a gadfly, not a leader.....
And the naiveté of his campaign is unnerving.....
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His going to out nice Trump? Parent
"Surely [there] are sufficient reasons to make it clear to the American people that it is time for a change and that a Republican victory is necessary to the security of this country. Surely it is clear that this nation will continue to suffer as long as it is governed by the present ineffective Democratic administration.
"Yet to displace it with a Republican regime embracing a philosophy that lacks political integrity or intellectual honesty would prove equally disastrous to this Nation. The Nation sorely needs a Republican victory. But I don't want to see the Republican Party ride to political victory on the four horsemen of calumny -- fear, ignorance, bigotry and smear.
"I doubt if the Republican Party could -- simply because I don't believe the American people will uphold any political party that puts political exploitation above national interest. Surely we Republicans aren't that desperate for victory.
"I don't want to see the Republican Party win that way. While it might be a fleeting victory for the Republican Party, it would be a more lasting defeat for the American people. Surely it would ultimately be suicide for the Republican Party and the two-party system that has protected our American liberties from the dictatorship of a one-party system."
You shouldn't fall into the trap of associating wild-swinging bluster with "strength"..
This isn't Gorillas In The Mist..and we haven't all gone silverback yet -- even if they already have in Fox-talk radio land..
Sanders has consistently championed and defended the bravest, most radical positions of any mainstream pol in this country for years-- and he's been held up well under fire for years while remaining articulate and true to his core beliefs..
You think this is the first Trump Bernie's had to deal with in all this time? Parent
OTOH "Short sleeves to shirt sleeves in three generations" is a well known true statement. Parent
You sound a little like a "the clothes make the man" kinda guy..
Rather surprising for a professed devout christian.. Parent
If he's a victim of problems and conditions he didn't create, how does that translate to the presidency, where quite a bit of the job is overcoming things you didn't create?
If he made bad decisions, how can anyone trust that as president, he will make good decisions?
Which is it, jim? Parent
Also think the assumption that an entity like Wall Street is top to bottom 100 percent pure evil, while its not a moderate position per se, I would not also classify it as very progressive because, in my opinion, investment (when done correctly) can have profoundly progressive results even sometimes more so that filtering the money through a beuracracy. Indeed private enterprise may, no not just may, it is VERY LIKELY, private enterprise funded though Wall Street will be the agency that cures cancer.
So I just don't think Bernie is very progressive. Oh well, opinions. Not that it will matter. Parent
Not minds.
I don't do minds. Parent
I thought Trump was correct in saying Cruz should have tried for a directed judgement about Cruz being natural born. My opinion is Cruz is eligible for office, but having the courts agree would be good for Cruz.
Cruz kinda laughed it off in the debate. On the same day as the debate Schwartz v. Cruz, 4:16-cv-00106, U.S. District Court, Southern District of Texas (Houston) was filed.
Seems like Trump gets the last laugh.
Bloomberg link
Any lawyerly opinions on that? Parent
As the great chess master Emanuel Lasker said "sometimes the threat is stronger than the execution". Parent
Grayson did a good enough job explaining that this case was not that case that Hayes admitted he had, at least in the moment, convinced him.
Just curious what the legal eagles thought. Parent
According to the USCICS
In general, a person born outside of the United States may acquire citizenship at birth if: *The person has at least one parent who is a U.S. citizen; and *The U.S. citizen parent meets certain residence or physical presence requirements in the United States or an outlying possession prior to the person's birth in accordance with the pertinent provision. [2]
To me it comes down to an almost a ridiculous parsing of the words "natural born" with most of the neo-birthers insisting that the the framers ignored the long standing jus sanguinis concept of citizenship and meant only the jus soli concept (the concept that makes the anchor baby crowds head explode btw, irony is not dead). Just sounds ridiculous to me.
By simple logic; Ted Cruz is not a naturalized citizen, ergo he must be natural. Am I missing something? Parent
Quite a few others, including or own Peter, have been convinced it's not nonsense. I honestly don't understand the problem. Who gives a sh!t if this is a problem for Cruz? Parent
I have read Tribe and others and the argument always seem to boil down that the argument is "not settled" mostly because the issue has not been actually litigated, not on any real logical or historical reason to even ask the question. I don't pretend to know the legal issues but my gut feeling this whole thing is stupid.
Really have no problem with the stupid(IHMO)besides the fact it's a hell of a way to run country.
Hell yeah I give a sh!t I am a Cruz fanboy just as you are a Trump fanboy (in a WWE way) I want to see this battle royale continue and so do you, the closer the polls the better the action. Parent
And not at all clear or cut and dried. Parent
That's is not the point. The point is Cruz is saying over and over that it's "settled law". That is simply not true. You will not find anyone out side the Cruz campaign, with any knowledge of the law, that will argue it is settled law.
The point is perhaps it should be settled law. Parent
I understand the concept of defaulting to English common law to understand undefined terms as expounded by McManamon and the rest of the questioners.
However those arguments seem to fall apart right here,
Article I of the Constitution gives Congress the power "[t]o establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization
Included in the first Act To Establish an Uniform Rule of Naturalization was the following language: [T]he children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States . . . .
The left needs to let this go and focus on Cruz's real problem, his policies. I get the feeling people are just pushing this because he is an ahole and not cause they care about the actual definition of 'naturalized'.
Let Trump chase the birther ghost. Parent
Now they have both done something stupid for no good reason, and made Trump look smart. Thanks a lot dude. Parent
"Midway through Michael Bay's 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi, interrupting its bizarre mix of war pornography and dour isolationist posturing, there's a shoehorned moment of mawkishness. Jack (John Krasinski) is one of the ex-armed forces contractors taking a babysitting job as security to CIA specialists halfway around the world. He's Skyping with his wife and daughters, and if that doesn't telegraph what motivates him to stay alive, he learns he's going to be a father again. This most human moment in the 144-minute film raises the stakes, and does double duty as product placement, set as it is at a McDonald's drive-thru, Happy Meals references flavouring the wholesome family sentiment. 13 Hours is as American as microwaved apple pie.
"Detailing the 2012 attack on a US diplomatic (and, later, espionage) compound in Benghazi, Libya, in all its thudding, bloody brutality, 13 Hours is an extraordinary artifact, a film that makes you long for the subtlety of something like Black Hawk Down. It stars a half dozen interchangeable bearded, buff men with names like Boon, Tig, Rone, Bub and Oz. One looks a bit more like Metallica's James Hetfield than the others and another is black, but the rest are a clone army. They are guns for hire for a secret CIA base run by pansy twerps from Harvard and Yale who barely know how to wipe their own asses without checking a rulebook. The nasally egghead chief (David Costabile) explains to newcomer Jack that flexing too much muscle where the natives can see isn't a good idea. But just outside the window, one of the boys is yawping and dragging enormous blocks of concrete around in his short shorts like this is some kind of Steve Reeves picture. Behind him, a bleating pen of sheep, defenceless to slaughter."
So, if you cheered on Sylvester Stallone as he blew away the Commies in "Rambo: First Blood Part II," you'll probably love Michael Bay's "13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi."
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"You know, the funny thing is how lousy most of your stuff is. You make violent films and you make dirty films and you make family films, but most of them aren't very good, are they? Funny, that so many smart people can work so hard on them and spend so much money on them and make so much money on them -- what do you think it is? It must be the money, it turns everything to crap."
I guess it all depends upon the registered political party of the reviewer
Which ultimately hurt American Sniper during awards time.
But this isn't in American Sniper class,
But seems like a well done movie of American heroism under fire. Parent
While I don't think they have a chance, Go Pack Go. Arizona beat the pack 38-8 three weeks ago, but hot damn if the Pack didn't look good on Sunday.
I am calling a red & white superbowl, KC & Arizona.
Peace out and have a good weekend.
The first one has been hailed as having led to the "good war". We sent our soldiers to "liberate Kuwait". And then we let them suffer Gulf War Syndrome untreated.
Great. We liberated Kuwait and they have prospered. Us, not so much.
Then comes the son. More liberation. This time Iraq.
Now comes the sometime spiritual grandson - in 2015. The one who thanks W. "for his service". Who are we liberating this time? The Syrians? The Iraqis? The Afghans? The Pakistanis? Everybody? The Ukraine?
Is this all to protect us from them? I don't believe it for a minute. Some agenda with these oil-rich M.E. countries got started decades ago, and we're still living it.
How about liberating Baltimore or Chicago?
Spencer Zwick, the national finance chairman for Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign, said power brokers and financiers are now trying to cozy up to Trump in various ways, such as reaching out through mutual friends in New York's business community. -- "A lot of donors are trying to figure their way into Trump's orbit. There is a growing feeling among many that he may be the guy, so people are certainly seeing if they can find a home over there," he said. In another sign of acceptance of the front-runner, Brett O'Donnell, a longtime debate coach for GOP presidential candidates, said Trump's performance skills have improved notably and have enhanced his reputation among the political class. -- It's a two-person race," Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler said. "There is no one in the moderate lane who seems to be emerging. The party doesn't seem to want to elect a moderate. Our argument is, there is only one conservative who has a path." Some outside strategists are less bullish on Cruz, however. Eric Fehrnstrom, a former Romney adviser, said Trump remains in "total command of the field."
In another sign of acceptance of the front-runner, Brett O'Donnell, a longtime debate coach for GOP presidential candidates, said Trump's performance skills have improved notably and have enhanced his reputation among the political class. -- It's a two-person race," Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler said. "There is no one in the moderate lane who seems to be emerging. The party doesn't seem to want to elect a moderate. Our argument is, there is only one conservative who has a path."
Some outside strategists are less bullish on Cruz, however. Eric Fehrnstrom, a former Romney adviser, said Trump remains in "total command of the field."
I said a while back if it came down to Trump/Cruz, which I thought it would, my money is on Trump.
It still is. Parent
Now you and I might think that statement about NY was stupid but I have to wonder how that kind of thing plays in the old confederacy. I have seen that kind of thing work before. Parent
Rich Lowery- fear and loathing is becoming resignation and rationalization.
That was my favorite. Parent
Also THE EXPANSE on SYFY on Tuesday. Also very good. A space opera described as Game of Thrones in space. The EXPANSE had more buzz but I like COLONY more. Better cast for one thing.
Both worth the time.