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Hillary Clinton Is The Democratic Nominee For President

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2016
Posted on Tue Jun 07, 2016 at 10:14:33 PM EST
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Great speech. Great moment.

Oh BTW, I predicted this moment in November 2008.

Just sayin.

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    It was a great speech. (5.00 / 7) (#1)
    by caseyOR on Tue Jun 07, 2016 at 10:33:23 PM EST
    And Clinton delivered it well. She spoke in a very intimate, conversational tone, the sort of tone that pulls people in to listen. She really seems to be hitting her stride.

    I must confess when Clinton was talking about her mother I got a bit testy-eyed.

    Teary-eyed, not (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by caseyOR on Tue Jun 07, 2016 at 10:34:58 PM EST
    testy-eyed. Damn auto-correct. Is testy-eyed even a thing?

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    It is if you want it to be (none / 0) (#7)
    by CoralGables on Tue Jun 07, 2016 at 11:01:49 PM EST
    In the age of the Internet you can coin your own terminology and it will live on ad infinitum.

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    Humpty Dumpty's lexicon (none / 0) (#11)
    by christinep on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 12:23:09 AM EST
    One of my favorite quips (which I quoted often at work): "A word means exactly what I say it means ... nothing more, nothing less." H. Dumpty (Alice in Wonderland.)

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    Haven't heard her sound that good, er, ever (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by FreakyBeaky on Tue Jun 07, 2016 at 10:40:46 PM EST
    I think she's playing this right. Go right after Trump's fitness to be CinC and his character. Meanwhile tell a positive and inclusive story about the good old US of A. Contrasts well with Trump's relentless negativity and emphasis on his alleged greatness. He looks cheap and tawdry next to her. (We know that already. It won't be long before everyone else does too.)

    I feel good.

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    I thought her delivery was so good (5.00 / 3) (#23)
    by ruffian on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 08:15:28 AM EST
    Definitely goes against the stereotype people have of her, and Trump's portrayal of her.

    The speech itself was direct and packed with meaning. I liked that it seemed like something she wrote, even if she probably did not do it all herself. Light on flowery touches. She is not running as a crowd pleasing great orator.

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    She's not (5.00 / 5) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 09:52:28 AM EST
    But watching her when she walked out there was pretty damn moving.   It was so clear that all the feelings about the last 17 years and even all the years before that were roiling barley under the surface.

    It was moving.

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    Um (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 02:26:59 PM EST
    That was supposed to say

    The last 8 years.

    No idea how it turned into the last 17 but whatever

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    Hillary (5.00 / 5) (#3)
    by AnnL on Tue Jun 07, 2016 at 10:39:21 PM EST
    Wonderful feeling as a woman mother and grandmother

    For all the media's concern trolling, ... (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jun 07, 2016 at 10:48:33 PM EST
    ... Mrs. Clinton's triumph tonight looks to be sweeping and decisive. She's won in New Jersey and New Mexico, ahead in Montana and South Dakota, and early returns from California have her up surprisingly big, but that may be due to older voters age 55+, who tend to make up a disproportionate share of the state's early voting and mail-in ballots.

    Sanders won the North Dakota caucuses. Feel the Bern.

    With 7% reporting in CA, ... (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jun 07, 2016 at 11:19:21 PM EST
    ... Hillary Clinton's lead is holding with 62% of the vote. Over 1.4 million ballots have been counted, and I'm hard-pressed to see where Bernie Sanders makes up that difference, because almost all counties are starting to report. His campaign has bet the farm on a great performance in California, so if he loses there, then there's really nothing left to talk about.

    Democrats will hold onto the U.S. Senate seat held by the retiring Barbara Boxer, because the likely top two finishers in the primary are Democrats. It will be CA Atty. Gen. Kamala Harris vs. Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez in November, as all three Republican candidates are skunked.

    Great night.

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    Too early to call it for Hillary in CA? (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 12:02:08 AM EST
    CBS News is already proclaiming her the likely winner there. 14% of precincts have now reported statewide, and she's crushing Bernie in the San Francisco Bay area, winning 62% of the vote thus far, and that's where he was expecting to do very well.

    Our friends in Millbrae suggest that while the Sanders campaign was busy staging yesterday's rally in San Francisco with the Golden Gate Bridge as its photogenic backdrop, Bill Clinton was busy shaking hands in the Castro, the Mission district, SOMA, Daly City, San Mateo and downtown Oakland. Anecdotal, to be sure, but it makes sense, given Sanders' pretty obvious failure to connect and resonate with Bay Area voters. Bill Clinton is a master of retail politics.

    Anyway, this 62-37% margin is holding steady. In Sacramento, where counting is almost completed, she's winning 65%. It's the same in L.A. County, 65%. If the margin stays this way, the result would represent a major embarrassment for national pollsters, who had been calling the race a toss-up, whereas local polling had Clinton up by double digits.

    Whether, yesterday's declaration in the media that Mrs. Clinton was the presumptive Democratic nominee had any effect on today's results, I'm not going to go there. I'm just enjoying the moment.

    Aloha.

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    22% reporting, still holding (none / 0) (#10)
    by FreakyBeaky on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 12:22:30 AM EST
    Pinch me. Can the polling have been that far off?

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    With 82% of precincts reporting, and ... (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 04:31:01 AM EST
    ... Clinton leading by a commanding 15-pt. margin, I'd say the answer is yes, the polls failed in California. Will the pollsters and media cop to it? Not likely.

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    Hillary routed Bernie in San Francisco. (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 04:39:22 AM EST
    With 100% of the city's precincts now having reported at 2:40am PDT, she won by a solid 12-pt. margin. With 60% of L.A. County counted, she's up by 17 points there.

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    No poll had it a toss up (none / 0) (#12)
    by CoralGables on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 12:41:30 AM EST
    Every California poll had Clinton winning. The "toss up" spin was nothing more than click bait.

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    Well ... (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by FreakyBeaky on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 01:16:10 AM EST
    Field, for example had Clinton by 2 with 12% undecided. Most showed a narrow but consistent lead. None of then had Clinton by 25 points. I was mostly looking at Pollster.

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    There were several within the past week ... (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 04:27:39 AM EST
    ... that had her two points up, and well within the margin for error. Well, at 11:22pm HST (2:22am PDT), she's up by 15 points with 82% of precincts reporting. A USC / LA Times poll reported five days ago even showed Sanders with a one-point lead.

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    And 538's projection (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by CoralGables on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 08:11:10 AM EST
    was Clinton to win by +9.5. I wouldn't call that a failure. It's why using aggregation and demographics is far more important than any individual poll.

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    I'm taking about the media, not Nate Silver. (none / 0) (#27)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 01:30:26 PM EST
    The media desperately desired a horse race in California, and with Bernie Sanders putting all his campaign's eggs in California's basket they talked themselves into one, by cherry-picking data from those polls that conflated with their prevailing narrative about Hillary Clinton being in trouble there.

    Quite obviously, she wasn't because she won California handily. You and I know that because we read a lot of different sources, and we have been saying for days that she was likely to prevail. But lots of other people did not, thanks to the media's misread / misuse of the polling data and their misrepresentation of the true state of the race.

    Will the media cop to that? Probably not. Personally, I wish they'd dispense with polling altogether, because they're clearly using it to manufacture news and controversy rather than simply report on it.

    Aloha.

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    Read today (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 01:34:50 PM EST
    That many CA polls were wrong (at least in part) because they don't have enough Spanish-speaking pollsters, which coukd mean that HRC has an even BIGGER lead among Spanish-speaking Hispanics than we know.

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    I was Fortunate (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Jane in CA on Thu Jun 09, 2016 at 01:41:17 PM EST
    To be at the polling place at the same time a new citizen, possibly Hispanic, was voting for the first time ever, He had JUST gotten his citizenship, and he was very proud and very excited to be voting. He asked for a Dem ballot and the Republican behind him who had been good-naturedly teasing him, said, "Well, you know I'm just going to cancel your vote." I said, "go right ahead! I'm already here to cancel his!" The newly processed citizen seemed puzzled by the conversation but the Republican and I got a kick out it, anyway.

    He seemed too nice to be a Trump voter, but given the fact that pretty much every Republican in California voted Trump, odds are that he was.


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    Looks like "exit polls" missed (none / 0) (#36)
    by FreakyBeaky on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 07:38:58 PM EST
    Meaning polls way underestimated Clinton's lead in already mailed-in ballots.

    You know, they never had to poll both intentions and actual votes together like this back in the day. I don't envy pollsters, especially during wacky primaries.

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    I never believed that Sanders was within (none / 0) (#51)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 15, 2016 at 09:08:59 AM EST
    10 pts of Clinton in California. I read a lot of extrapolations about how he was, but after putting them down...I just didn't believe it.

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    Hats off to Hillary and the Democratic Party (5.00 / 3) (#18)
    by coast on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 06:27:52 AM EST
    Another milestone reached.

    Looking forward to some lively debates as we head toward November.

    Mrs. Clinton's (5.00 / 3) (#21)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 07:01:41 AM EST
    speech was impressive in its tying her win to an historic movement making it not an ordinary win, but an extraordinary one. The win, too, was tied to all historic struggles for equality that slowly, but surely, interrupt the cycle of social mistreatment. A wonderful example for little girls and women as well as for little boys and men.

    There was a good article (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by smott on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 04:36:38 PM EST
    By Rebecca Traister re Clinton a week or two back, and she made an interesting point....that we have never seen Clinton "unleashed", I.e. With the primary shackles off.
    Trump is not going to enjoy the gentle kid gloves she had to give Sanders.
    This is the first time Clinton can let it fly.

    And watching her last couple of speeches as she pivots to Trump, she has that glint in her eye I see in my kitties when one of them comes in with a bird in their mouth!

    Speaking of unleashing (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by smott on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 04:39:24 PM EST
    I think Warren and Obama are going to absolutely relish eviscerating Donald.
    OBama in particular - if reports are to be believed, he humiliated Trump so badly at the Press dinner a year or two back that His DOnaldness had to slink out. And perhaps that was what has spurred Trump to run. Not just narcissism but settling a score w Obama.

    This could get very interesting, watching Trump under fire.

    And un-hinged.

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    Reports are definitely to be believed (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 04:50:57 PM EST
    Not sure if that meant you had not seen it.

    just in case

    The cut aways to Trump are awsum.

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    That could be the genesis (none / 0) (#34)
    by smott on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 05:36:26 PM EST
    If so I wonder if Trump will get even more out of control responding to Obama than we have seen thus far with Clinton/Warren. It would be personal w Obama. Scary.

    This from the Atlantic, on Trump's deep narcissism:

    For psychologists, it is almost impossible to talk about Donald Trump without using the word narcissism. Asked to sum up Trump's personality for an article in Vanity Fair, Howard Gardner, a psychologist at Harvard, responded, "Remarkably narcissistic." George Simon, a clinical psychologist who conducts seminars on manipulative behavior, says Trump is "so classic that I'm archiving video clips of him to use in workshops because there's no better example" of narcissism. "Otherwise I would have had to hire actors and write vignettes. He's like a dream come true."


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    I absolutely think humor (5.00 / 2) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 06:25:30 PM EST
    The the way to go after him.   He can't stand it.   And that routine by Obama was surgical.  It hit him right where he lives.  On how seriously he takes himself.

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    And Obama (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by jbindc on Thu Jun 09, 2016 at 10:05:08 AM EST
    Can be much freer than even Clinton, since he isn't running for anything.

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    There are (none / 0) (#33)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 05:34:49 PM EST
    some reports that that dinner is the reason Donald is running.

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    She was interviewed last night (none / 0) (#38)
    by BackFromOhio on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 09:55:36 PM EST
    on either CNN or MSNbC

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    A reminder of the primaries 2008 (5.00 / 2) (#39)
    by Nemi on Thu Jun 09, 2016 at 07:08:28 AM EST
    Hillary Clinton's Remarkable Comeback. Amazing how dignified she acted even while being betrayed by those she counted on. The piece nicely sums up:

    Over the past 30 years, no American political figure has absorbed as many blows as Clinton. And none has responded with more tenacity and grit. Trump talks endlessly about strength. Clinton embodies it.
    Thanks (none / 0) (#40)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jun 09, 2016 at 07:29:19 AM EST
    That is an awesome article.

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    I was so Proud to a Californian (5.00 / 2) (#43)
    by Jane in CA on Thu Jun 09, 2016 at 01:56:23 PM EST
    When the returns came out. All I had been hearing for days was "statistical tie," so I, for one, was  greatly relieved by the actual results.

    I also thought that Hillary had definitely turned a corner in her acceptance speech. She seemed, for lack of a better term, to have come to place of comfort with herself and her position in history.

    I wasn't the only one to notice this. I heard it over and over from everyone I talked to, even a republican or two. She was Hillary, the policy wonk, who is trying to tell us how she will make us whole again, and doing a damned fine job of it.

    How happy I am for her and for this country. People laughed at me in 2008 when I said I truly believed she was the 21st century's answer to Franklin Roosevelt. Hopefully, now we'll have the chance to see what she can do.

    Getting a bit (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by Nemi on Fri Jun 10, 2016 at 04:56:54 AM EST
    ahead of myself, I know, but how about seeing her being sworn in as Hillary Diane Rodham? HDR.

    A 'girl' can dream, right? And these days even bigger. :)

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    Got Hillary on in the background (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 10, 2016 at 12:13:01 PM EST
    Speaking at Planned Parenthood.  It's very good.  She is going after Donald hammer and tongs.

    And it's funny.

    Followed by Trump (none / 0) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 10, 2016 at 12:25:40 PM EST
    At the Faith & Freedom & Judgmentalism convention.

    Not sure how long I will make it with this one.

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    Great Prediction BTD (none / 0) (#6)
    by BarnBabe on Tue Jun 07, 2016 at 10:58:03 PM EST
    I have waited for this moment since 2008. And it IS a great moment. 18 million cracks and growing. Now we can get to work to help make it happen. It won't be pretty as the Donald likes to play in the mud but it can happen. In fact I believe it will happen. What an excitng night for all of us.

    And even though it was announced last night, it did not seem to matter. It gave us the day to enjoy the Donald's plight while knowing H made it over the top. Now it is official with a acting meak Donald Aligator just waiting to chomp down on her. I bet he was fuming getting beaten up all day by the GOP. Although, I suspect Mitch's big line in the sand for D was because he probably already had the agreement to tone it down and now. Mitch is not that brave.

    OK friends, one more whoop and smile. Here we goooooooooooooo.

    You did (none / 0) (#17)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 04:57:34 AM EST
    call it BTD. I had forgotten about that!

    Morning News Shows (none / 0) (#19)
    by sallywally on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 06:46:32 AM EST
    Cover Hillary only in passing. The only one with a (suppressed)vibe of excitement is Meat Puppet. Nothing about the historic candidacy of Clinton.

    More interested in The Donald's circumstance. Ginsberg on how they can change the rules at the convention and separate Trump from the nomination. Who to replace him? .....Could it be...Eddie Munster?

    OK, now...Chuck Todd and Mrs. Alan Greenspan now saying Hillary is extremely confident and has a "seriousness of purpose" not felt before. Heavy weight of Trump on her team, have to stop him. Utterly electric in the auditorium when Hillary walks in. Hmmm....her supporters are not enthusiastic? She is unlikeable? Hmmm. How did she get here, then?

    I watched (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 06:48:51 AM EST
    Todd and Greenspan behaving like the ultimate concern trolls last night. They are so tiresome!

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    CNN Commentators (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by BackFromOhio on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 11:27:33 AM EST
    last night (into the am hours emphasized how Hillary seemed to have the energy behind her with her speech and pointed to the history-making aspects of events.  Gloria Borger made these points and others concurred.

    I even heard Chris Matthews say some complimentary things about Hillary!

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    Chris (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 11:47:54 AM EST
    Matthews was the nicest of all of them. Shockers!

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    Trying (5.00 / 2) (#37)
    by BackFromOhio on Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 09:54:48 PM EST
    to get back into HRC's good graces. She may be president after all and he'll want interviews.

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    Russian hackers (none / 0) (#47)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 14, 2016 at 10:53:50 AM EST
    Have broken into the DNC system and stole oppo on Trump!

    WTF.

    can't find a link yet but it's on the NOOZE

    ha! Who has to hack into a system to get (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 14, 2016 at 11:29:05 AM EST
    the goods on Trump? Just read the paper, Russians!

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    Maybe (none / 0) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 14, 2016 at 11:35:58 AM EST
    There is stuff we DONT know?  Just weird.  Gotta to be more to this than we have yet heard.  Or may ever hear.

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    WaPo (none / 0) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 14, 2016 at 11:39:12 AM EST
    LINK

    Obama is whacking Donald hard live right now.

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