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Hillary to Name VP Choice Today

The AP reports Hillary Clinton has signaled she will announce her running mate today.

In a tweet Friday morning, her campaign urged supporters to text the campaign to get first word. Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine had emerged as the leading contender, according to Democrats familiar with Clinton's search.

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    Just heard an interesting comment (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 11:23:10 AM EST
    About how Hillary was supposed to announce this morning to step on Donalds coverage and what we are seeing now is strategic silence.

    Probably.  Let the voters marinate a little in that hysterical screed describing America as Gotham City.

    Then boring won't seem that bad.

    I had thought (none / 0) (#5)
    by CoralGables on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 11:41:11 AM EST
    announce today if Trump was good last night and wait for Saturday if Trump was a dumpster fire. But Trump is always a dumpster fire so probably makes no difference either way.

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    Maybe, the (none / 0) (#7)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 11:54:02 AM EST
    Clinton Campaign's thinking is to move on and "lock-in" the dumpster fire impressions, rather than allow the conflagration to become embers--after the Trump/right wing spinners have their say.

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    She met with the mayor of Orlando (none / 0) (#8)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 12:17:29 PM EST
    And was at a roundtable to discuss the Pulse nightclub shooting this morning.

    Would have been horribly inappropriate to announce then.

    Probably this afternoon, first campaign apoearance together tomorrow with pick.

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    It is pretty dark (1.00 / 2) (#76)
    by Redbrow on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 08:20:47 PM EST
    Of Hillary not to postpone her announcement in light of the unfolding terrorist attack.

    Although it is rather fitting for her to share the headlines with yet another muslim immigrant terrorist.

    Do tell? (none / 0) (#82)
    by Yman on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 11:13:47 AM EST
    What "immigrant Muslim terrorist" has she already been sharing headlines with?

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    Nothing? No answer? (none / 0) (#84)
    by Yman on Sun Jul 24, 2016 at 07:00:12 AM EST
    That's what I thought.

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    Waiting for my text! (none / 0) (#1)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 09:44:36 AM EST
    If Kaine is what she decides, fine. We'll have to get excitement from the Obamas and Warren out there campaigning for her.

    As far as doing the actual VP job, I see nothing wrong with Kaine.

    After (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 09:57:14 AM EST
    that awful GOP convention a VP who just seems normal now becomes exciting to me at least.

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    Assuming (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 11:15:15 AM EST
    The "first law ov VP picks" is, as they say, do no harm. Meh.

    Probably no harm.

    I certainly would not be surprised as I as been saying for a long time.  I will also not be particularly happy about it but what the heck.  I still don't get Biden and that seemed to work.

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    If Tim Kaine, (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 11:44:59 AM EST
    the Clinton campaign must have made the calculation that by November, the bulk of the electorate will come to their senses. The contrast will be stark between experience and governance and cultish entertainment and dangerous inexperience.  Mrs. Clinton's extensive record plus Kaine's (mayor, governor, senator) v. Trump plus Pence.  Pence, while governor and US Congressman, will continue to shrink to a small blob in the shadow of the Leader. Not a good look for Pence--as was seen last night in Trump's perfunctory introduction of his running mate. It is likely to become clear, that the real veep in a Trump administration will be his 40-year old "kids."

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    He was also (none / 0) (#9)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 12:18:30 PM EST
    Head of the DNC and knows how to fundraise.

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    Kaine is the one who made the stupid (none / 0) (#11)
    by caseyOR on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 12:49:15 PM EST
    and shortsighted decision to abandon Dean's 50 State Strategy at the DNC.

    He would be a horrible choice. He is bad news for anyone advocating progressive economic policies.

    Say it ain't so, Hill.

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    Another take maybe (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by christinep on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:26:33 PM EST
    In addition to Senator Kaine's extensive experience in governance and in addition to the electoral significance of Virginia, the state from which he hails, I believe that his perceived centeredness would offer a potential advantage throughout the mid-Atlantic states into the Rust Belt and even in connecting with North Carolina populace.  

    Other pragmatic matters: In an atmosphere (so far) that spells Safety Concerns of an internal & external variety, Kaine's background in foreign relations in the Senate would reinforce the stability and real knowledge emphasis of HRC.  

    Personally, I had initially hoped to see an Hispanic VP nominee ... yet, on reflection about the worth of strong experience in these times, that Senator Kaine has a background that includes fluency in Spanish as well as evidence of constructive assistance in Latin America via his missionary work speaks well for him and his personal dedication. This combo could be a good one.

    Bottom line: I'll support, with enthusiasm, whoever the VP nominee may be.

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    JFK, Kaine & Pence (5.00 / 2) (#78)
    by Molly Bloom on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 08:30:22 PM EST
    "
    So I have taken the position, which is quite common among Catholics -- I have got a personal feeling about abortion, but the right rule for government is to let women make their own decisions."

    Kaine noted that the Supreme Court on Monday is expected to issue a ruling in a case challening the "onerous regulations" Texas has imposed on abortion clinics.

    "We fought those off in Virginia when I was governor because you have got to let people make their own moral choices when it comes to matters of reproduction, intimacy and relationships," Kaine said

    .

    Remember the JFK religion question?

    We have Kaine's answer. I assume the question will be put to Pence.

    1 probably 2 Supreme Court seats... Could be Hillary wants to highlight the issue.

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    Coukd work as an advantage (none / 0) (#83)
    by jbindc on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 12:09:11 PM EST
    Excellent points . . . (none / 0) (#80)
    by JanaM on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 08:43:02 PM EST
    Christine, in hindsight you nailed it.

    With Hillary's YUGE lead among Latinos, it's not like she needed to go there - though it would have been nice.

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    He's not (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:42:50 PM EST
    going to be running the 50 state strategy and as far as that goes she seems to be listening to Dean. But in all honesty you can't hang that all on Kaine. Obama never supported down ticket candidates financially either. The party has really suffered under Obama all across the country.

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    Whether (none / 0) (#17)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:37:37 PM EST
    VP picks are good or bad seems to only be decided in hindsight. I mean Palin was initially thought to be a good pick.

    If VP picks mattered as much as some make them out to be we would have had a President Dukakis.

    All Kaine has to do is take apart Pence in a VP debate and he'll all of sudden become elevated to hero status.

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    1000% Goofs (none / 0) (#22)
    by JanaM on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:43:35 PM EST
    I am old enough to remember the disastrous 1000% VP endorsement. Poor dear.

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    Competence not flash (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by JanaM on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:39:47 PM EST
    Hillary did say she was first of all looking for competence and someone able to step into the job of president. Not sure if she's correct on this but I usually trust her judgment. Isn't Bill pushing Kaine as well?

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    It behooves Hillary (none / 0) (#10)
    by mmakana44 on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 12:33:40 PM EST
    to be cogniscient of what Tim Kaine has been up to... This week he very publicly became a signatory on a letter co-signed by 15 other Senate Democrats -- and "every" Senate Republican -- sent to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to exempt community banks and credit unions from many of its regulatory requirements.

    He simultaneously snubbed consumer-advocacy groups. On Wednesday, Kaine was one of 13 Democratic senators to withhold his signature from a letter authored by Sherrod Brown, which called for strengthening new rules against abusive payday lenders.

    Picking Kaine for VP is a clear tack to the center. Kaine is adversarial with progressives. She will lose serious credibility with the left flank of the party - Sanders + Warren devotees will not be amused. Neither will I, and have been with Hillary since 2008.

    This would be plain self-sabotage and disappointing tone deafness. Pick Franken for goodness sake, that would surprise everybody and delight more than enough. Hillary and Al would be positive upbeat lights clearly contrasted with the darkness of Trump and Pence. Vilsack and Perez are fine. But Kaine is a slap in the face to Sanders voters and would anger and alienate them

    The NYT says Bill is all down with Kaine. Please say it ain't so. Somebody in the campaign has to see this, don't they?

    Incomplete info doesn't help . . . (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by JanaM on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:34:05 PM EST
    Perez has been my choice. Wicked smart, tough and progressive. But simply saying Kaine opposes legislation without the details and reasons -  which may be perfectly legitimate and still progressive - does nothing more than copy GOP tactics or actually more of Sanders' tactics.

    I guess I will have to do with Perez as AG come January. I really am excited.

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    Me too, I was sold on Perez. (none / 0) (#26)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:50:43 PM EST
    As far as Kaine and legislation, as VP he will follow her lead. Can we see what legislation is actually on the table in January before we get excited about it?

    He is still a Senator from Virginia right now. What if he is not the VP and wants to keep his job? Are the progressives in VA going to help him?

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    What (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:50:02 PM EST
    the signatory was for was to ease up on credit unions and small town banks but of course it has the word "bank" in it therefore it must be some sort of evil legislation. Sheesh.

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    It will not just (none / 0) (#32)
    by caseyOR on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 03:05:20 PM EST
    "ease up" on community banks and credit unions. It offers big banks an easy path to avoid some necessary regulation.

    Additionally, why should credit unions and community banks get a break on regulatory oversight?

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    It (none / 0) (#33)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 03:09:51 PM EST
    depends on what the regulations are. Some regulations are really nonsensical for small banks and needed for larger banks in some cases.

    But let's see it all and look it over.

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    Credit unions (none / 0) (#34)
    by ragebot on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 03:14:01 PM EST
    are normally non profit.  They tend to be fairly strict about lending and issuing credit cards.  They are also somewhat restrictive about membership, limiting it to a group with something in common.  As a result they seldom have problems larger institutions that gamble more do.

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    Well (none / 0) (#44)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 04:29:48 PM EST
    it has been quite a few years since I got any loans or credit cards from a credit union but I found them to be less strict than regular banks. The credit unions seemed to rely on other factors than strictly your credit rating like employment stability.

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    One world view not always the answer (none / 0) (#56)
    by JanaM on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 06:09:43 PM EST
    There are honest and reasonable differences on banking regs. There is not one knee jerk response. This holds true even for large financial institutions. Not all banks are evil and we do need them to function in our society.

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    Saw on Twitter (none / 0) (#12)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:09:40 PM EST
    It's Kaine.

    Univision has it.

    What's the over/under (none / 0) (#13)
    by ragebot on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:09:41 PM EST
    that Hillary delays announcement of her VP pick due to the Munich shooting.

    You mean like Donald? (none / 0) (#18)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:39:20 PM EST
    I doubt it will influence her. what has it got to do with anything?

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    Maybe you should turn on the (none / 0) (#27)
    by ragebot on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 02:27:37 PM EST
    TV.  Wall to wall coverage of the Munich shooting and efforts to chase down the gunmen.

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    With alerts (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 02:40:09 PM EST
    Of an eminent announcment  every few minutes.

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    Still wonder about timing (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by ragebot on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 02:48:36 PM EST
    A common complaint about the government is that they dump bad news on a Friday afternoon so it gets lost in the fog of the weekend.  Just as an aside what channel is saying Hillary's announcement is imminent, or did you mean it was an eminent, as in standing out.  Sorry about joining the word police, but I could not resist.

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    Spell check was driving (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 04:10:04 PM EST
    MSNBC (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 03:01:31 PM EST
    They have said it several time.  I have not been watching for a few minutes.  Earlier Andrea Mitchell said something like "MSNBC has confirmed from multiple sources she will definitely announce today"

    Supposedly it will just be on email or Twitter.  Or both likely.  I would expect them to do it.   Possibly not but like I said, there could be another one tomorrow.  In this country.

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    Brian Williams is talking about this now (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 03:04:12 PM EST
    Bottom line, who knows.  A similar event effected Trumps VP announcment.

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    MSNBC update (none / 0) (#39)
    by ragebot on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 04:05:03 PM EST
    Brian is saying no announcement about Hillary's VP till later tonight, if then.

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    Andrea Mitchell (none / 0) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 04:12:21 PM EST
    Just said again the announcment is imminent.  Tonight.

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    CNN (none / 0) (#42)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 04:19:29 PM EST
    meanwhile, is a strict diet of disaster porn, asking themselves if this somehow validates Trump's dystopian vision.

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    Saw on Twitter (none / 0) (#14)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:10:11 PM EST
    It's Kaine.

    Univision has it.

    but...but...she promised me an IM first! (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:40:15 PM EST
    I'm outraged!

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    LOL! (none / 0) (#23)
    by JanaM on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:45:19 PM EST
     Me, too. So this is how she breaks my heart. 😂

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    I went to the rally in Tampa this (none / 0) (#75)
    by vml68 on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 08:18:35 PM EST
    evening hoping she would announce then. Did not happen. I wonder how she is going to make it up to me :-)

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    Well, wait (none / 0) (#24)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 01:48:42 PM EST
    I think I misunderstood a text about univision.

    But Armando said "It's Kaine "  maybe he was giving his opinion.

    (Awaiting things to be rightfully thrown at me).

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    Armando keeps hammering (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 03:39:18 PM EST
    "It's Kaine."  And, see how well I did predicting Biden would be Obama's pick in '08.

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    The way he and sime6 (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 03:55:01 PM EST
    Other twitterers are lamenting, you think she was considering Zell Miller or Joe Manchin.

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    Kaine may not be Zell Miller, (none / 0) (#47)
    by caseyOR on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 05:07:45 PM EST
    but he is a bad choice for Clinton to make. He supports TPP. He has adopted Republican talking points about Dodd-Frank, and his support of women's reproductive health is very soft.

    No, Kaine does not want to defund Planned Parenthood, but he supports the Hyde amendment.

    There is no good reason, in today's political climate, for Clinton to choose Kaine. If this was 1996, then maybe Kaine would make some sense, but not in 2016.

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    I kind of agree (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 05:13:58 PM EST
    Which is why in spite of predicting that he would be the pick for weeks now, which is really a sign of my low expectations I guess, I can't quite make myself believe it will be him.

    Just from a purely political point of view.  He does nothing much IMO.  If this is really a base election beyond that he is a problem.

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    I also kind of think (none / 0) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 05:16:10 PM EST
    That the fact that it has been kept so tightly secret might mean they are going for a surprise.  

    But I a terminally optimistic.

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    I hope the Kaine thing is a big (none / 0) (#50)
    by caseyOR on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 05:19:35 PM EST
    head fake from Clinton. I really do.

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    Support of reproductive health is soft? (none / 0) (#51)
    by Trickster on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 05:30:03 PM EST
    He sure got 100% from Planned Parenthood and 0 from a bunch of RTL orgs for his Senate time.

    I don't know as much about your other points, but it looks like you're 0 for 1 on the one I have some knowledge of, which arouses some skepticism on the others.  Do you have details?  Cites?  What do you mean, "adopted Republican talking points?"


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    This is from politico (none / 0) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 05:43:29 PM EST
    From a couple of weeks ago


    Tim Kaine has been here before: a leading vice-presidential contender with a complicated stance on abortion that doesn't neatly align with the one held by the top of the ticket.
    His personal opposition to abortion generated significant scrutiny back in 2008 when Barack Obama, an abortion rights supporter, included the then-Virginia governor on his shortlist of running mates. Kaine's hometown newspaper in Richmond flagged the potentially awkward partnership right away, pointing out the philosophical and policy differences in a side-by-side graphic widely republished by media outlets across the country.



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    You (none / 0) (#52)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 05:39:55 PM EST
    guys make me want to scream, historically the VP has very little do with ideology, It's usually 90% electoral calculus, IMO Kaine is a very safe pick in this environment, like Howdy I think the first rule should be do no harm.

    Meanwhile I sense  that some of the Berners are ready to explode in outrage just because she makes a sensible but unexciting pick.

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    Many of the Berners . . . (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by JanaM on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 06:16:55 PM EST
    are going to explode no matter what Hillary does so why she needs to cater to them is beyond me. Reasonable Berners will accept she is the candidate of choice and for others there will be no pleasing until she falls to her knees begging their forgiveness and sends them all free tuition vouchers, house down payments and unicorns.

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    And some (none / 0) (#81)
    by Nemi on Sat Jul 23, 2016 at 08:17:07 AM EST
    are still convinced, that the SDs will change everything.

    Not to speak of the 'leaks', yay! [eye-roll]

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    It's not just the Berners (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 05:46:53 PM EST
    Casey is not a Bernier.  This is a widely held opinion on the left.

    Personally my problem is not so much with him but with the problems I know many on the left have with him.

    Does that make sense?  I know it's out there.  It could be pushing "do no harm" thing.  IMO

    Bottom line, I still think it's likely to be him.  I hope it's not.

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    What (none / 0) (#58)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 06:13:04 PM EST
    I am trying to say, is everyone is putting too much stock in the ideology of the pick. The primary goal  now is winning in the fall, right now it is much more about cold mathematics than political philosophy.

    Everytime I shut my eyes and take all the ideology out of it, Kaine makes the most sense.    

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    Right (none / 0) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 06:18:15 PM EST
    But if he is enough of a problem with the left.

    It could be about winning.

    There's Dr Stein.  And Johnson.

    Just sayin

    I agree with you.  It's about winning.  And what's needed to do that.

    I'm probably willing to defer on that but I do wonder.

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    Possibly (none / 0) (#63)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 06:34:43 PM EST
    even probably lose a few on the left, probably gain some from the fence sitters and possibly reassure some Republicans who are ready to jump. Like I said math.

    Even more important is the math in the swing states, where Kaine does seem to have more pluses than minuses.

    Stein is probably a non-factor, and while Johnson might be appealing to the left at first, much of his platform is 200 proof poison.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#65)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 06:38:32 PM EST
    There is a very cogent case to be made for Kaine based on his resume.  I understand the idea of contrasting solid stable experience with batsh!t dangerous crazy.

    I do.

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    He has to be tough . . . (none / 0) (#61)
    by JanaM on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 06:20:11 PM EST
    My only concern is whether he is tough enough. I liked Perez cause I think he can be an in your face give-it-right-back fighter - though in the nicest, most statesmanlike manner, of course. Sorta like Bill can do.

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    If that's what you want (none / 0) (#62)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 06:31:35 PM EST
    Warren is tougher than any "he" on the list.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#43)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 04:27:30 PM EST
    I was replying to Armando going on about how Kaine needed to go on an interview with Jorge Ramos but the fact of the matter is Kaine has already done an extensive interview with Univision.

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    The Clinton Tampa Event Is Live (none / 0) (#35)
    by CoralGables on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 03:16:53 PM EST
    here at 4:30ET

    Could be lots of speakers before Hillary though. If you believe rumors, the announcement will go out by text just prior to her walking on stage.

    Doing a sound check now (none / 0) (#37)
    by ragebot on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 03:52:21 PM EST
    not sure how much longer, music is back

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    MSNBC (none / 0) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 05:03:02 PM EST
    Is carrying Hillary live in a break from the disaster p0rn.

    The debates (none / 0) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 05:05:57 PM EST
    Are going to be EPIC

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    Please let it be Cory Booker. (none / 0) (#53)
    by Chuck0 on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 05:41:59 PM EST
    Please let it be Cory Booker. Please let it be Cory Booker.

    Presidential names . . . (none / 0) (#57)
    by JanaM on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 06:11:56 PM EST
    Vice President Cory? Yea, I don't know about that. Please don't tell me we're on the path to President Kayly and VP Jaden.

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    Funny (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 06:35:13 PM EST

    Katy Tur
    Twitter > KatyTurNBC
    C'mon @HillaryClinton, the political press corps is tired. It's Friday night. Just send it.
    4 mins ago - Twitter

    I agree.

    Do it already so I can get back to BLOODLINE.

    I seriously (none / 0) (#67)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 06:57:25 PM EST
    think she's doing this to torture people like Andrea Mitchell. It's going to go out at 11:00 p.m. tonight or something and Andrea is going to have a meltdown over it.

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    Exceptions . . . (none / 0) (#77)
    by JanaM on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 08:29:18 PM EST
    Now that's torture we can all get behind.

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    Eminent (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 06:50:11 PM EST
    And imminent.  Moments away.  Podesta is calling the also rans.  Probably before the top of the hour

    It is official, says Anderson Cooper, Kaine (none / 0) (#69)
    by caseyOR on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 07:12:04 PM EST
    is Clinton's VP choice.

    I never got my Hillary supporter text!

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    OH well (none / 0) (#70)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 07:12:53 PM EST
    Blowback (none / 0) (#71)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 07:14:12 PM EST
    Officially underway on MSNBC

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    I got (none / 0) (#72)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 07:27:27 PM EST
    mine but after it was announced on a blog.

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    Shrug and eye roll (none / 0) (#68)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 07:11:36 PM EST
    Vice President Kaine

    Very positive post at BIG ORANGE (none / 0) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 07:36:33 PM EST
    Sen. Kaine isn't a bad pick. (none / 0) (#74)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 07:47:26 PM EST
    But as I've said before, he's the safe rather than bold choice. BTD is characterizing it as a mistake. While I don't consider that to be the case here at all, I do tend to see Kaine's selection as a squandered opportunity for Mrs. Clinton, who can otherwise actually afford to think big and take some chances. His is a benign presence; while he doesn't hurt her, I fail to see how he actually helps her.

    Oh, well, what's done is done. On to Philadelphia!

    Kaine is not (none / 0) (#79)
    by JanaM on Fri Jul 22, 2016 at 08:38:41 PM EST
    a bad pick in any real sense. He has a great background. I had another preference but I'm fine with her choice. She has to work with him not me. Actually his sanity is such blessed relief from the Giant Clown Car of Cleveland.

    So I guess it's Perez for AG. I need to start looking for my inaugural wardrobe. 👠

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