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CNN : Obama Wins North Carolina

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:30:45 PM EST
Tags: North Carolina '08 (all tags)
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CNN calls North Carolina for Obama as soon as the polls closed. I'm still following Indiana, as i think that's the more important state for Hillary Clinton, but I'll post results here. You can keep each other updated in comments.

BTD will do a separate thread with new exit poll data from N.C.

< Indiana Exits, Thread 2 | Indiana Results: Thread Two >

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    CNN : Obama Wins North Carolina | 32 comments (32 topical)

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    What does an immediate call (none / 0) (#1)
    by magster on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:31:54 PM EST
    mean for margin of victory?

    I think the calls are as political as everything.. (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by reynwrap582 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:33:12 PM EST
    else...  Clinton is clearly going to win IN but they're just gonna sit out on calling it because it reduces the impact of the win.  Call me paranoid or whatever, but I knew exactly this was going to happen.  I bet Obama's margin in NC will be smaller than Hillary's in IN.

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    Nothing (none / 0) (#6)
    by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:33:07 PM EST
    that is the real story -- how close she can keep it.

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    Declare Obama a winner before declaring her a winn (none / 0) (#17)
    by Salo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:39:07 PM EST
    er.  ahem.

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    They always call his wins and (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by vicsan on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:40:54 PM EST
    portray her wins as "too close to call." They are so transparent.

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    Obama not getting white men (none / 0) (#2)
    by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:32:13 PM EST
    even in NC according to Juan Williams on Fox.

    exit polls for NC show Obama wins by around 14% (none / 0) (#3)
    by zebedee on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:32:52 PM EST


    Oh wow (none / 0) (#11)
    by AnninCA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:35:32 PM EST
    That's bad.

    OK, well, then that says it all.

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    So much for close (none / 0) (#4)
    by Lil on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:32:58 PM EST
    Called on the hour

    should have said on the half. (none / 0) (#9)
    by Lil on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:33:33 PM EST


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    CNN on line has a big red check mark (none / 0) (#5)
    by oculus on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:33:06 PM EST
    for Obama but not a single vote tally.  

    Somehow (none / 0) (#8)
    by AnninCA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:33:20 PM EST
    NC has ended up in play because she got close, I guess.

    CNN is saying she has to get out of the race because he's "obviously" winning in NC.

    Wow.....we expected her to win?

    spin spin spin (none / 0) (#12)
    by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:35:34 PM EST
    He was supposed to win by 20 or some such bs -- now if she loses by a smaller than expected margin she needs to get out -- IN is no longer the tie-breaker it seems.

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    I don't think so (none / 0) (#23)
    by AnninCA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:41:25 PM EST
    Angie......the exit polls must be convincing.

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    I meant the spin is (none / 0) (#25)
    by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:46:37 PM EST
    this acting by the pundits that somehow she was expected to win NC.

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    Such a quick call (none / 0) (#10)
    by Faust on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:33:58 PM EST
    implies he won by more than 10 points.

    Not really (none / 0) (#14)
    by americanincanada on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:36:21 PM EST
    it implies they think he will win huge based on AA vote alone. It could be much tighter. They did not even wait for any hard numbers in NC.

    They are going on exit poll data alone.

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    We'll see (none / 0) (#22)
    by Faust on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:41:19 PM EST


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    he got 91% of the AA vote (none / 0) (#13)
    by Jeralyn on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:35:38 PM EST
    to her 6%.

    what happened to the other 3% (none / 0) (#15)
    by tree on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:37:29 PM EST


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    Edwards. (none / 0) (#19)
    by Salo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:39:58 PM EST


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    Cnn online (none / 0) (#16)
    by Molly Pitcher on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:37:34 PM EST
    has a chart that with him as winner and it is timestamped at 4:01 pm

    How can you call NC for Obama when the polls (none / 0) (#18)
    by stefystef on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:39:27 PM EST
    just close at 7:30, about 8 minutes ago, but IN is still up in the air and those polls closed over a half hour ago.

    Because the exit polls (none / 0) (#30)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:13:41 PM EST
    show such an overwhelming advantage for Obama that they'd have to be massively, massively off for her to have won.  They've learned their lesson that they have to be careful about calling things solely on the basis of exit polling, but the NC results are apparently so strong for Obama that there's no chance he hasn't won.

    They also take into consideration what numbers they can get about turnout in key demographic areas.  If turnout in AA areas was very low, or rural so high, they'd adjust accordingly.  Etc.  They take all that stuff into account.


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    But Didn't obama Say IN Was The Tiebreaker? (none / 0) (#20)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:40:25 PM EST
    What does this mean in the big scheme of things?

    It means (none / 0) (#24)
    by Faust on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:42:49 PM EST
    that if he loses Indianna then Clinton people will hit him upside the head with the tiebreaker comment until the next primary.

    Pretty stupid thing for him to say.

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    Well, sort of (none / 0) (#26)
    by AnninCA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:49:48 PM EST
    but the problem is that she also said NC was a changer.

    So when we have two narratives going....his with "I've survived Wright, obviously....look at NC."  and her narrative, "Indiana was the true test."

    I personally think he wins again on the PR front.

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    depends on margins. (none / 0) (#29)
    by Faust on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:10:29 PM EST
    But yeah I tend to agree after all is said and done.

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    He always wins on the PR (none / 0) (#31)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:15:19 PM EST
    That's why BTD has felt he's got a better chance against McCain.  (I disagree with that, fwiw)

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    By PR you mean Public Relations (none / 0) (#32)
    by Florida Resident on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:34:32 PM EST
    you have to be careful there is a primary in PR in June.

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    any chance of us ending NC within 10pts???? (none / 0) (#27)
    by nycvoter on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:56:25 PM EST


    I don't know, but I'll be really surprised if he (none / 0) (#28)
    by DeborahNC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:08:13 PM EST
    wins by more than 10. I thought that she was really closing the gap here.  

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